Bad Boys - Part IV
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Let's go, boys!!!
(We're all in this together now)😉
(We're all in this together now)😉
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Jesse Campbell said:If any of the MLS Ultras need a lift in Chicago or a ride over to Memorial Stadium in a car with NYC plates, just shoot me a DM. I live right on the edge of town, so it’s super easy to meet up and leave the car behind. You can even swing by my way to dodge the Harbor traffic.
Jonathan Lewis3 said:You’re a complete moron.
If my group doesn't take those vouchers—and honestly, I hope they don't—I'll be the first one buying a ticket for anyone under my mom's, dad's, or brother's name.
If fans in Italy or Poland can figure out how to organize and let each other into the stands—even though they hate each other way more than we do—then we can, and frankly, we have to.
No fake gestures here, just pure, honest solidarity. Like what they did over in Scotland.
Jesse Campbell said:Why don't you just go public with everything about your group then? Since it's clearly not an issue anymore.
Kevin Nelson3 said:I’m not usually posting in the fan section, but I really don't get this constant obsession with pushing the same narrative. It feels like we have to tear down the current leadership just to feel like we're doing something.
We could have been in a much worse spot if we hadn't taken out the old management back then. Things might have turned even uglier if we had bowed down to those guys from the big cities. We could have faced total chaos in the stands back in 2009 if we’d made one wrong move when they stormed the North side during the game against Washington, D.C. Maybe we would've dealt with boos coming from the East if we'd been idiots before, clinging to that "better 100 pure souls" mentality. We could have shut the whole match down yesterday with just ten flares, but we didn't. We could have said the Black Knights don't exist without flares and stayed home, but we didn't. We could have become our own end goal, but we didn't.
We’re a club that everyone else has tried to drag to the bottom, yet somehow we always rise. No, we aren't winning the Champions League; but when we play against those damn outsiders, 25,000 people show up to cheer on the kids on the field. Our supporters' section looks great. Honestly, the relationship between the front office, the players, and the fans is probably the best it's ever been. Sure, we all make mistakes, but we also know we can't survive without each other.
So, I have no idea why anyone keeps trying to force the idea that some new corrupt mogul is going to take over. It won't happen. Various vultures have tried to nest around the Kansas City Chiefs before, but they never truly took hold because we were awake to their games.
They could pass ten new laws tomorrow. They could ban us from waving flags or wearing scarves. They could even kick the club out of the league if we don't sit quietly in our seats. But none of that is going to be stopped by "standing in solidarity" and screaming insults at the owner.
We went through a total meltdown once, swearing we'd support the Chiefs but refusing to spend a dime. It wasn't that nobody stood with us against the vermin; it was that people actually mocked our struggle.
Back then, they thought it was funny because they were living the high life. Well, looking at them now, I don't find their situation funny at all.
But that shouldn't make the Chiefs panic. That guy didn't infiltrate the club; he grew alongside it. We've already proven we won't let anyone take control, and we'll do it again if we ever have to. Don't worry about it.
Melissa Reyes45 said:Look, you guys have shown solidarity toward the Kansas City Chiefs and the Black Knights plenty of times before. I won't even list all our past battles against various suits in management. We stood up to send a message of support after the police opened fire, only to find out some little kid was posting comments about how much they want to screw me over. But whatever. We’re still going to show up when it counts, whether it’s one of yours or someone else's. You have my 300% support in this fight, but don't expect me or my crew to stay quiet just because you're being hypocritical—I'm not going to dig through the past to bury the truth about certain people in leadership. After what happened to those folks in the Hero City, I’ll say it again and again: you know damn well that wasn't an accident, happening just a week before those extremists targeted them. Maybe I'm tripping and someone won't agree with me, but if one of my own people were insulted to their face, we'd react. And as for the total meltdown? I'm not even commenting; it's not worth the breath. God, I hope you guys finish them off. Seriously. You know it, even if you won't admit it: you lost the battle in your own backyard, and that's separate from the issues with Z.M. Good luck!!
Jonathan Lewis3 said:The photos look alright, but I don't get why he's zooming in on two random guys in the crowd...
Melissa Reyes45 said:Why are you coming at him like that? There’s a massive difference between you two. This guy is out there actually doing the work for the group—organizing the flags and the flares from the East Stand months in advance with his buddies. Meanwhile, you show up five hours before kickoff, grab a Budweiser, throw on a straw hat, and pass out in the park with a cigarette tucked behind your ear. Then, while your hat's literally smoldering, some buddy who’s had way too much to drink spills a beer on you just to wake you up. After that, you head over to the East Stand to lecture everyone because you think you're some tactical genius who knows all about formations. But this "idiot," as you call him, is the one checking if the percussion is ready, if the megaphones work, and if the banners are set. That’s the real difference. It reminds me of this huge argument I remember having back in my younger days...Whether we're talking about kicking those Rangers Supporters Club guys out of their boots or just watching Liverpool FC absolutely demolish the Red Sox, I’m not even going to bother reading the poll results aloud. Every single fan already knows exactly how this is going to go down! 🙂 The only issue is that I'm still feeling this way, and thank God for that. 🙂
feralwolf16 said:Look, it didn't turn into a party atmosphere just because of that. It changed because suddenly everyone in the city wants to be part of the NFL Ultras because of all the good stuff they do. As for how you carry yourself within the group—well, that's a whole different conversation. Honestly, the best thing right now would be if everything just turned back into some big festival or a neighborhood block party where people just celebrate, and everything gets ruined again for anyone who doesn't want to "travel everywhere blindly" just for the sake of it. That's not the vibe. Love isn't just about throwing a party; those are just mindless antics. If I went into the details of why that would open a massive Pandora's box, I won't... but honestly, there's a much bigger sense of joy right now in how people are showing love in every single neighborhood and corner of the city. Considering most of these folks are in their mid-20s to 30s, I have to wonder: where were they all when they were toddlers? I get the 18 or 19-year-olds—they just got swept up in it. But people in their late 20s? Where were they back when we only had 50 people traveling to away games, or when the North Stand averaged 500 people? We used to hit 1,000 and it was absolute madness! And that wasn't even that long ago, and everyone was old enough to fall in love with Liverpool FC back then. Did the love just die because there were only 50 of us enjoying the atmosphere back then?
The idea that Liverpool FC is the foundation of everything and comes before the NFL Ultras has never been in question... but man, the guy just phrased it poorly. He’ll realize certain things as he gets older, but his intentions aren't bad at all😉, that's what I truly believe...
feralwolf16 said:Why is this even an issue? Maybe he just phrased things poorly... but if people didn't care about the group, those NFL Ultras would never have gained any strength, and you wouldn't have a damn thing to show for my Liverpool FC. I get what he's getting at. He's only 18, so it'll take him years to realize he was just being stubborn. Honestly, looking at where the group is headed today, his attitude isn't even bad. We actually need more of that grit. All we have right now is this empty, pathetic "love" for Liverpool FC. When it came time to actually buy shares, none of these guys who act so tough were around. It's just Miami nonsense and pretentiousness. People are bored...
And p.s. You, the one swearing so hard by Liverpool FC—I'm genuinely curious. Would you sit there calmly while someone assaulted and raped a mother, sister, wife, or kid that they love just as much as they love Liverpool FC? Probably not. But whatever, you won't light a flare tonight, so Mom and Sis won't be getting screwed over tonight, just the usual stuff...
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights always show up for Liverpool FC.
Melissa Reyes45 said:It’s always been this way—you're either all in, or you just think Borussia Dortmund is "okay." Most people have decided they aren't going to light up the stands anymore, and honestly, I respect that. We've basically rolled up our sleeves; at least, that's how I see it. They'll clench their fists after the game and say, "We broke them." That's what they've wanted for ages. They don't care about our extra 30,000 bucks; they want to break the Black Knights, not the Cleveland Guardians. The club managed to dig its own financial hole through its own mess, not because of what the fans did, but whatever. The real question is: what happens next? Another game without today's torch? And then again? And again? Eventually, we'll just be wearing vests with seven stars on them. To me, we can just turn the key in the lock and move on, because lighting a flare or posting a message against UEFA is just shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm repeating myself here, and I'm not looking for anyone to copy my take. Once tomorrow's game is over, nothing will ever be the same, regardless of how much people try to hush it up. I know these are heavy issues. It would be terrible to get kicked out of our own club just for the sake of it, but I also see my group as being stronger than everyone else—especially stronger than that organized mafia outfit that's been running things for twenty years... There are other ways to fight! 1950!!!!!
Thomas Doyle19 said:Honestly, it’s no surprise. In this world, the rules and regulations have never been applied equally to everyone. There have always been people who live "above the law," and from what I can see, nothing is going to change regarding how things work against guys like that snake ZM.
And you hit the nail on the head with that example. Because of that bureaucrat Linić, small local bars get shut down just for having a $33 tiny discrepancy in their register, yet this clown has been making a mockery of the biggest club in the country for twelve straight years without anyone batting an eye. He’s probably broken a million laws in that time, but nobody is knocking on his door or grabbing him by the collar. If any of us tried to swipe a pack of cigarettes from a convenience store, let alone something bigger, we'd be in hot water.
feralwolf16 said:What are you even talking about?? What does "ultra mentality" have to do with anything? It doesn't matter if it's a fan group or the club itself. Honestly, props to this management for their recent moves... but the only way you should listen to advice like that is from a board that actually stands their ground. You know, the kind of leadership that would walk off the field or pull out of the MLS or FIFA competitions entirely if they saw rules being applied to us while everyone else gets a free pass. Seriously, forget that. First it’s the flares, then it’s telling us we have to sit down, then it's some other nonsense because apparently, we're "undesirable" as a club. I wish this front office would just finally stand up for their fans who didn't do anything wrong... personally, I'd rather see the Kansas City Chiefs play in a local county league than stay in the MLS just to keep bowing down to everyone else. Or better yet, skip the FIFA tournament entirely instead of sucking up to officials just to get past the preliminary rounds. If the Black Knights stop lighting flares because of stuff like this, then they aren't any different from your average American who's terrified of outsiders and thinks everyone else is smarter than them. Screw this fear-based respect. Should we really ditch our traditions just to please people who don't even want us around?? That's the only question worth asking here...
silverbear38 said:Why were you guys celebrating a penalty that was clearly given? 🤷
I thought you guys were all against Mamicev’s refs and that whole setup. Are you actually going to start chanting "corrupt federation" just because the ruling went against Dinamo? 🤷