Posts by Susan Kim2

Laura Chavez93 said:The issue here is the total suppression of debate; one isn't even permitted to consider the economic fallout, let alone dare to question what this will do to the summer tourism season...
even someone like Dragan Primorac can't provide a straight answer as to whether people are dying from Corona itself, or from pre-existing conditions that the virus merely pushed over the edge.
And now Dybala has tested positive again—how is that even possible after two weeks?
Yet we are expected to place blind faith in those who seem to lie incessantly just to secure their next election cycle...😵

Who isn't letting you debate? Look at the PDFs at the top of the page; everything is being discussed in thread 16. The real issue is that Americans aren't used to a Crisis Management Team or an emergency state. Honestly, it's better that way. We haven't seen anything like this in a hundred years. It’s not me, it’s not you, and it’s not some random dust particle. The problem is a certain class of people who lack basic common sense. They’ll invite twenty of their buddies over for a BBQ because "hey, it's vacation time." The problem is that there are plenty of people like that in the US; just like how they spend their whole lives parking in handicap spots or blocking ramps, they couldn't care less about rules.

What about the economy? If you hadn't implemented measures, well, America isn't an isolated island. We're part of the European Union and import most of our goods. The economy would be suffering regardless of the bans, except you'd just have more dead people. As for the tourist season? Please. The Olympic Games are being canceled. You can't force a few million tourists to show up; they won't come anyway. This crisis is going to hit much larger and stronger countries than the US. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

Lionel Messi tested positive again—how does that happen after two weeks?

Lionel Messi tested negative twice, then positive the third time. His girlfriend was quick to post about it on Instagram. 🙏
It’s nothing unusual. It's the same thing where some people test negative the first time and then positive the second. He hasn't fully cleared the virus yet, so he tested positive. That's all there is to it.

Anthony Jackson2 said:Twelve months plus is just the standard timeframe needed to develop a vaccine—not sure what else you want me to say, unless you think we can skip quarantine entirely before then?

I don't think the government is going to wait for a vaccine to end lockdowns. Even the Chinese didn't wait for one. The goal is just to get the spread under control, and that will happen eventually.

Rachel Cooper3 said:I've watched several videos of this guy now... I knew things were bad over there, but what's happening is some serious Dinamo Chicago level dysfunction. 🤣
Actually, Dinamo Chicago is nothing compared to this. 🙏

Honestly, if someone drops a line like that in a situation like this, who cares? It doesn't matter.🙏

Anthony Jackson2 said:I think everyone—including Anthony Jackson2—realizes there needs to be some caution here; you can't just go around acting reckless with people.

But honestly, most people don't seem to grasp that this current setup is unsustainable. These lockdowns only make sense if they're buying time for actual alternative strategies—but we don't have any of that. We’re flying blind on how the government will react or how the public will handle it if this drags on. There's zero plan.

And setting the economy aside, it's pure idiocy to expect people who were traveling the globe and living freely yesterday to suddenly be trapped in their apartments for over a year—under phone surveillance and restricted even when trying to get to work. Only someone completely detached from reality would expect that. Americans and Europeans aren't like people in China who are conditioned from birth to obey the state. If someone tried to weld the doors of an apartment building shut in Europe, there would be a riot in the streets by day two—regardless of the danger, Corona, or the death toll.

If someone actually presented a viable plan to get us out of this mess, then sure, I'd support whatever measures are needed to execute it. But blindly supporting these restrictions—which exist solely for their own sake, strip away civil rights, and lack any real legal footing from the task force—isn't happening for me.

Nobody in the entire world actually knows the plan or the idea to resolve this virus pandemic. Even Rudan wrote about how we haven't had a major epidemic in Europe for practically 100 years, not since the Spanish Flu, and that we should listen to the old-school epidemiologists. It's because being an epidemiologist isn't exactly a glamorous career for the younger generation when we haven't dealt with an epidemic in decades.

The only thing we know for sure is that social distancing and isolation are our best tools. I have no idea where you guys got "two years" from, and now it's "12+ months of quarantine."
As for monitoring phones, I don't believe that will ever really take off, aside from the tracking you already have enabled by keeping your location on constantly. 😁

username_placeholder said:For instance, what they're doing in Mexico is total madness to me; it reminds me of much darker times.
They’re being even more blatant with their threats against citizens there.

Even here, the punishment is financial, or even prison time, if you essentially disagree with the official opinion and fail to follow orders.

To me, that causes more anxiety than the virus itself.

Mexico has been in deep trouble for a long time; this virus stuff is just throwing gasoline on an existing fire. The President gives addresses like Mamara used to during her best days, and his prime minister and government are just as chaotic as that Assembly in Dinamo Chicago.


That's the level we're dealing with.

wiredrider9 said:It’s not going back to how it was, just remember that. Honestly, parts of our lives are probably gonna shrink even more—the question is whether that hits our wallets or just our daily routines. Things won't ever be totally "normal" again; there are going to be shifts, and yeah, most of them will be negative. Of course, they'll just package it all up and tell us it's "for our health" or "the greater good."😉

Have you already gone back to using an old Nokia 3310 and swapping out SIM cards after every single transaction? 🤦

wiredrider9 said:not gonna happen

Of course there will be layoffs and a crisis coming. I think everyone realizes that already.
What I meant was that in a month, you might actually be able to grab a beer, visit a friend, or head to a theater or a movie without having to religiously scan every person in the room to see if they're keeping their distance.

Paul Sanders5 said:Okay, but honestly? Screw a life like that. A month or two? Fine. But experts are saying it’ll take two years to roll out vaccines and treatments, so they think staying in these kinds of quarantines is the best move. Are they out of their minds? 🤣

It’s all just because certain people can't stop stuffing their faces every single second. And now they're starting the whole PR spin to act like none of this is their fault.

Two years? Nobody is staying in quarantine for two years. No one is actually thinking that. 😁
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/06/a...hnk/index.html

The Chinese are slowly getting back to business. Wuhan has come out of isolation, and things will return to normal.

wiredrider9 said:The folks in charge clearly checked their brains at the door months ago—maybe even earlier. Honestly, they should've just shut the borders tight and banned everyone except Americans coming home (and yeah, mandatory quarantine first, obviously). At the same time, nobody living here should be allowed to fly out for some damn ski trips or whatever other nonsense. And we need mandatory isolation for pensioners; let the Volunteers and the Dodo Army deliver food right to their doorstep. If they actually follow the rules, the government could toss out their utility bills for the period they're stuck at home. But if they decide to go rogue? Well, they shouldn't expect any medical help if they get sick—let them deal with it. Everything else can stay open, but we need strict entry controls for big-box retailers and stuff. Cafes and restaurants should have way fewer tables to keep people distanced, and schools or colleges need to keep running, provided they're disinfecting everything every single day.

Some guy named wiredrider9 posted this on the forum back on April 8th, way down on page 650 of some random chat thread. 🙏
No, and this guy actually has the nerve to act like he's some kind of visionary, talking down to everyone about how he’d close the borders on the Moon if he could. 🙏Half the tables in local bars have been cleared out because some cop rolls in with a tape measure and suddenly it's game over. They're measuring the distance from the bar to the table, then from one table to the next, just to be sure. They mobilized volunteers and the National Guard overnight to get it all sorted. If wiredrider9 were running things, he probably would've had the whole operation organized in a single day. 🙏And then there’s this absolute clown talking about withholding medical care. Seriously? Just let them die, I guess. That's the logic. And what was that post above all this actually about? China? 🤣🤣

Honey, just stay right where you are on the couch. Sit down and make yourself comfortable.

urbanhawk17 said:This nurse from Medjugorje hid the fact she was in Italy three separate times🙏

#safe-sister

No, that's her friend—the one who just got back from Italy and has been keeping quiet about it for about 15 or 16 days. 🤣

I honestly don't see why everyone is acting so shocked; people simply have nowhere else to go.
Some might want to grab a beer with a buddy, others head out for some pickup soccer, a mom might be driving her kid to practice, someone’s switching shifts at work, or someone's heading to a game—all that stuff is off the table right now.

So, I really don't get the whining about there being a few more people hanging around the parks near the apartment buildings than usual. Seriously? There's always plenty of woods and other spots to hang out if you actually care about that.

dustycyclist42 said:I’ve actually noticed something pretty similar. Most days, I head out for a ride on the bike path near my house, and there used to be plenty of times where I wouldn't run into a single soul. But man, ever since all this craziness started, more and more people have been flocking there. You see parents messing around with their kids, seniors out for a stroll, all sorts of people... I’m just counting down the days until everything gets back to normal so everyone can slowly drift back to their favorite coffee shops or wherever they usually hang out...

Why don't you just give them a taste of their own medicine and stay home? What exactly do you expect people to do? Coffee shops aren't operating, restaurants are closed, entire sports leagues have ground to a halt, kids aren't in school, and all extracurricular activities are totally frozen.
What should people be doing? Should everyone just barricade themselves in their houses just so you can claim the trail as your own personal kingdom? 🙏

brightpilot6 said:He didn't quite grasp the part about actually using soap when washing his hands, did he?☕

🤣🤣🤣

urbanhawk17 said:Alright, so where am I supposed to go if I want to isolate?

I live with my wife in an apartment. How are we supposed to socially distance?

We don't own any other property, so there's nowhere else to run. It's just this apartment, and that's it.

I guess it's probably the same situation for 90% of Americans.

God knows how we're going to manage.

Don't go looking for some remote house owned by an acquaintance just to make sure they don't torch your car. ☕

Jessica Gonzalez said:It isn't quite that simple, guys. Even people living in harsh conditions or prisoners can experience moments of happiness, mostly because it’s just a reaction to certain hormone releases. In a prison, someone might feel happy just because they got a slightly better lunch. A laborer might feel happy simply because their employer didn't punish them that day. Happiness is a pretty relative concept, I guess. Even a dog has been bred to react with those specific hormones when seeing a familiar face; they were essentially designed to please their owners. It isn't really about free will. Of course, the whole idea of free will is incredibly complex, but pets are animals that lack freedom in so many different ways.

I get that modern pet owners didn't create these dogs themselves, but rather look after animals that—through no fault of their own—can't really care for themselves. Taking care of an animal like that is a somewhat noble thing to do. Their primary role is to make our lives more fun or fulfilling, yet people often sacrifice a bit of themselves to care for them. Still, that doesn't change the fact that such an animal is essentially a captive, created through what is almost an industrial process. If we can accept that one highly intelligent pig can be an involuntary victim of our dietary needs—alongside 60 billion other farm animals raised every year—then maybe we should also accept that the domesticated wolf (the dog) is a victim of our recreational needs. It seems almost arbitrary; a dog has this crazy luck of being a mammal that humans find cute, so we make them clothes and write laws to protect them from noise, whereas pigs aren't as likable, so we either mass-produce them or find ourselves wanting to ban their farming altogether. Both are mammals with the same organs, and biologically speaking, pigs are actually quite compatible with us. We adore one, keep them in our apartments for 15 years, and consider them family. The other, which is just as intelligent and capable of being a pet, is treated merely as ingredients for ham or a schnitzel.

I don't follow you. In one post, you're criticizing people for not using specifically bred breeds for their intended purposes, and now you've moved on to the domestication of wolves.
Hardly anyone keeps a pig as a pet. One user might testify that they have a neighbor with a pet pig, but if you don't mind living alongside a pig and it doesn't bother the neighborhood, go right ahead.
I don't see any issue with certain breeds existing to perform specific tasks, whether that’s herding sheep, retrieving game, or guarding estates and livestock.
Similarly, many have become pets today simply because people discovered dogs possess other qualities.
My only issue is when people take breeds like Samoyeds or Malamutes—breeds that are completely ill-suited for the climates they end up living in.

brightpilot6 said:I can't say I agree with you there. Pure "entertainment" is arguably the least common argument used when discussing pet ownership.

And if we look at it from the biological perspective, there are thousands of studies measuring serotonin levels and other physiological markers in mammals that point toward states of happiness and contentment. So, we actually have a fairly reliable understanding of what makes today's cats and dogs happy. In the case of dogs specifically, it almost always comes down to their interaction with their owners.

Therefore, at least regarding dogs, the argument that we don't know whether they are happier or less happy with or without us simply doesn't hold much water.

I think it’s pretty obvious—just look at a stray or a dog from a shelter and see the difference in how calm and happy they become once they're settled.

Larry Fox5 said:I've got this massive dog with tons of long hair and a thick undercoat—cold weather doesn't even touch her. Honestly, she’d probably love mushing through the snow in Alaska... those little doggy coats are totally useless.

On the flip side, I do put a raincoat on her when we get hit with those massive downpours—makes the walk way better, plus I don't have to deal with a soaking wet mess when we get back home.

It's just common sense that dogs aren't as tough when they live indoors with us, but then again, the whole role of a pet has changed so much over the years too.

Why would a dog like that care about the cold? 🤣 Heat is the real enemy.

People tend to think of Greyhounds or Ridgebacks—dogs built for the heat with very thin coats. Naturally, they struggle when it gets chilly and need a sweater for their walks.

Do you have a link?

brightpilot6 said:If you ask me, everything he’s put out since his time on The Office feels like a massive step backward.

Just give this show a shot.
It’s only six twenty-minute episodes—hardly a huge commitment, right? 😁

His series After Life is easily the best sitcom I've seen in ages.

The guy is just too good. I found myself laughing and crying within twenty minutes.

Does anyone have a reliable link for Clemson-Ohio State?