Posts by Patrick Martin

So, did any of you guys catch that massive scandal involving the Panama Papers?

Matthew Young35 said:Dylan’s rendition of All Along the Watchtower is hands down the definitive version. As for Like a Rolling Stone? It’s a tougher call; frankly, most covers of that track just miss the mark entirely.

Look, Dylan’s version is fine, sure, but it’s kind of one-dimensional. It's like eating plain crackers. Jimi came along and added some actual flavor to it, gave it those extra two dimensions it was missing. ☕

Man, it is scorching out there...

The whole thing is that we’ve already poured money into these roads through various taxes and grants, so why should the local contribution be just as steep as what some tourist pays?

Dammit, we’re out here protecting foreigners while they get fleeced by everyone else, simply because those other countries actually look out for their own citizens.

If they don't want to cough up the cash, they can just wander around on foot at 3 PM like it's a damn hike. ☕

Eric Fox7 said:Honestly, I think we wouldn't be dealing with these massive traffic jams if we just switched to windshield vignettes instead of those overpriced toll plazas.

It’s way easier for them to screw us over than to mess with some outsider. It's like how a local shopkeeper will rip off his own neighbor just because he knows they won't make a scene, but he'll play nice with a tourist from out of town. They know we're right here. We're sitting ducks. ☕

Can someone please explain to me what on earth love has to do with outer space?
Seriously, I don't care how much people obsess over romance; they can go hook up in orbit for all I care, but thinking it actually affects anything out there? That’s just straight-up moronic right from the jump.

Kubrick handled this stuff way more tightly and made actual sense of it—honestly, you shouldn't even put those two things in the same sentence.

by the time they actually finish explaining what they're doing, their whole shift will be over☕

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man, how does a little kid even wrap their head around something like that with their old man?

my first thought when I hear "monolith" is basically just thinking about Arbeloa

boldfox88 said:Are you thinking about that little robot Matt Damon used to get rid of? That's just a tiny fraction of the plot.

Flynn has been looking closely at IQ tests—those things that supposedly measure intelligence. Tell me, do you honestly think our social fabric has improved compared to how things were fifty years ago? We might have made massive leaps in technology, but when it comes to our quality of life and social cohesion, we haven't moved an inch.

IQ tests aren't some absolute, flawless measurement of intelligence—not even when you're just looking at logical reasoning—but they serve as a solid benchmark. Over the last 50 years, the standard of living in developed nations like the US has climbed steadily. Regardless of your personal take on it, technological progress has fundamentally improved life in these societies. We have better living conditions, easier access to information, and instant connectivity with people all over the country. From an evolutionary standpoint, this shift has triggered a massive jump in average IQ scores. It leads to a pretty straightforward conclusion: society plays a massive role in driving an individual's intellectual advancement.

What kind of mess are we dealing with here? Is it a heap of factual errors, logical fallacies, or just plain bad writing?

Purely cinematic nonsense, if you ask me.
Who actually wants to sit there listening to some character deliver a lecture while they're wrapped up in some sci-fi space flick 🤷

Just show me the action, man, don't hit me with a damn theory lecture.
I didn't pay for a movie ticket just to listen to her ramble on while she's slumped back in some spaceship pilot chair.

They hop into the ship and suddenly they're deep-diving into cosmic phenomena like they're giving a TED Talk, all while claiming their goal is "saving humanity." 🙏

Prometheus is basically just ripping off Interstellar with its dialogue☕

boldfox88 said:I completely agree. Odyssey is an absolute masterpiece, truly one of a kind. Honestly, I doubt even ZZu would be posting about it if they hadn't watched it specifically just to come here and tear it apart. 😁

And let's be real, Interstellar is also a brilliant film. You simply cannot dismiss it as some mindless modern flick.

It’s totally unbelievable. People just constantly let Nolan slide with whatever he does,
why is this massive pile of nonsense always tolerated and even cheered for when it's his name on the credits
but the second Scott starts fighting off MONSTRUMS, everyone starts nitpicking every single tiny detail?

where's the fairness? WHY the double standards?

boldfox88 said:If Odyssey showed us just how much like tiny mice we are compared to the vastness of space—or how insignificant our lives and our entire species are against the ancient age of Earth and the universe—then Interstellar proved exactly how little we actually grasp about any of it.

Setting aside the heavy existential questions, Interstellar does an incredible job of highlighting how flawed our perception of linear time and three-dimensional space truly is. The final scenes might lean a bit too hard into sentimentality for some, but I haven't seen another film tackle the issues of temporal causality and spacetime perception quite like this one.

but that's why Kubrick was such a phenomenon when it came to portraying other human traits and virtues,
just look at that dance between art and technology out on the silent cosmic horizon

A picture is worth a thousand words; I don't need all that chatter parading around in a close-up like she's just memorized a bunch of big text for a school recital.

brightpilot6 said:Are you seriously suggesting that I can't go into a sci-fi movie expecting a coherent narrative—one that actually adheres to the internal logic established by the film itself? If we are talking about science fiction, isn't the entire experience built upon a specific set of rules and dogmas defined by the film and its subsequent lore?

I’ve mentioned this before. It’s about the story itself—how it grapples with those heavy, existential questions and truly forces a confrontation between the individual and the vastness of the cosmos. As for the pacing, I suppose that's purely subjective, though I have little patience for anything that feels sluggish or lacks momentum.

Man, what "putting things in perspective"?
They make cruising through the Milky Way, or a black hole, or whatever hellscape you want to call it, look like a freaking ride at a local carnival.
Characters are staring at each other through bookshelves because they can't even reach out since they're stuck in some weird dimension or different point in time. 🙂

Look, Kubrick nailed it—he showed just how much tiny little mice we actually are compared to the vastness of space and time.☕

Those guys actually think Interstellar beats 2001: A Space Odyssey 🙏

vivideagle7 said:Honestly, I’d probably forgive them even if they hadn't included Alien in Prometheus or Max in Mad Max, as long as the actual movie was good.

How many actual new moments or characters have you even encountered?
I'm talking about new creatures, let alone entirely new vehicles.
And then you have the nerve to lecture me about "quality" when you haven't even noticed the most basic innovations!?

Do you honestly think it's easy to build out brand new worlds and refresh core concepts while simultaneously running high-octane, real-time action and adventure?

It’s a massive undertaking, especially since so many tropes are already totally played out. Ridley basically pulled off the smartest, most logical move possible by opening up an entirely new dimension for the whole saga.
Miller is right on his heels too, delivering exactly the kind of stuff you guys are still whining and obsessing over. ☕

vivideagle7 said:It's true, though—they definitely made a massive pivot. If you look at the drop in quality 😁

The wildest part to me is how everyone was absolutely losing their minds over Alien and Max in leather, acting like those were the gold standard, and then you get Mauna? Absolute nada. Zero. Zilch. Nothing. 🤣

Honestly, Interstellar was such a letdown. I mean, come on. You get to that ending where they’re doing that whole dramatic eye contact thing through the bookshelves, all those dust motes floating around, the ticking clock... give me a break. It’s like they were trying way too hard to be deep just to hit a deadline. Total snooze fest. 🤦

Jessica Gonzalez said:I guess I don't mind being called an extremist if it means I get to call almost every recent movie garbage. You can tell me I'm conservative or some kind of generational chauvinist, maybe, but please don't compare me to AJ or people like him.

Man, you aren't being "radical," you're just stuck in the past. You're honestly handicapped because you can't wrap your head around—or properly value—the massive leap Scott and Miller took when they decided to strip back the aliens and the cosmic consciousness stuff in their recent flicks.

Those are the kind of directors who actually have guts, the ones making cinematic history,
and obviously, every genre has its own sub-genre. Like, if a movie features one specific monster, one singular creature like an alien, then that film is flirting heavily with fantasy territory.

So, you have to accept certain rules for how you watch things. It's like, I'm not gonna sit down and watch pro wrestling if I can't get into the vibe, right? Movies are the exact same way.

But you? You just don't know how to get into it. And you don't need drugs for that—you just need an actual imagination. ☕

brightpilot6 said:What’s wrong with a movie's ending?

I personally find Interstellar to be quite excellent; I was disappointed at first, but after a few viewings, there are enough compelling elements that I quickly forgave the logical and factual inconsistencies. It’s something I rarely do.

As Patrick Martin suggested, perhaps one should relax a bit before heading to the theater or browsing Pirate Bay—maybe enjoy a glass or two of red wine... And I suspect that filmmakers sometimes intentionally weave in certain illogicalities, whether to induce a specific psychological state in the viewer or simply to drive the narrative forward and encourage repeat viewings.

take that part where they reach out toward the snake in Prometheus (even Tarantino ripped into it)
which everyone absolutely trashed.

that’s such a textbook example of an over-the-top moment, it was edited that way on purpose,
uh, to crank up the tension for the crowd (because we all know danger is lurking),
uh, it's like, one of those epic beats in the whole story (on par with when Neil Armstrong stepped onto the moon)
and if you don't see the magic there—if you don't feel that sense of "higher purpose"—then you just don't get it.

in that exact second, heaven and Earth collided within that entire Alien franchise world, that's it, that's the whole point.

that's where everything really kicked off.

Jessica Gonzalez said:Not really, I don't think so. When I pay for a ticket, I just expect the filmmakers to actually do their jobs properly.

I honestly can't remember a single decent "virtual" movie from the last few years. By that, I mean sci-fi or those big blockbusters. I guess Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise was somewhat coherent, even if the ending was a total mess. Everything else has been pretty terrible. Gravity felt like a complete letdown, I think I've complained about Prometheus more than any other movie on this forum, and Interstellar might actually be one of the most confusingly written films out there. And don't even get me started on all the sequels and prequels. What they did to Indiana Jones probably should have been illegal.

But look, the movie is just the first installment of an announced trilogy, right? So it’s basically designed to be this massive setup/intro. Given that they took a huge step away from that overplayed, exhausted Alien franchise vibe—and considering the flick plays out in real-time about 85% of the time—they really put in some heavy lifting right out of the gate.