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Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
George Reed20 said:Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has left his physical body, leaving us with a legacy that is vast—perhaps even greater than his presence itself...
Westerners, in particular, should be grateful for what they could have learned from him, while those who identify "like me" are thankful beyond measure...🙂


"May all be well with everyone, may no one suffer..."
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s Transcendental Meditation™ program is the most effective technique available for deep relaxation, stress reduction, promoting health, boosting creativity and intelligence, and attaining inner happiness and fulfillment.

Practiced by 5 million people worldwide, the Transcendental Meditation technique is simple, natural, and effortless. The transcendental effectiveness of Transcendental Meditation has been validated by over 500 scientific studies conducted by more than 200 independent research institutions across 30 countries. The TM technique requires no specific belief system or lifestyle changes; it is not religious in nature, takes very little time, and can be learned regardless of age or education level.

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi — founder of the Transcendental Meditation program

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is widely recognized as a leading scientist in the field of consciousness and is considered the world's greatest teacher in the modern era. Maharishi fully revitalized millennial Vedic literature, restoring the full importance of its theory and practice, and organized it into a complete science of consciousness.
Maharishi's Vedic science and technology develop the full potential of Dharma law within human consciousness as the foundation for improving all aspects of life.
The Transcendental Meditation program—the subjective aspect of Maharishi's Vedic science and technology—is the most widely practiced and extensively researched self-development program in the world.
Maharishi is currently establishing Maharishi's Vedic Universities and Maharishi's Vedic schools globally. These institutions offer mastery of Dharma law to every individual, enabling a life lived in accordance with all laws of nature—fostering the desire to achieve perfection in every profession—and creating government groups capable of not just solving problems, but preventing them.

1993: Maharishi inaugurates Global RAM raj (the governing force of nature)
Maharishi's absolute theory of governance and his practical "government group" formula, which secures the support of Dharma law through the establishment and maintenance of a group of yogic flyers, has been politically tested in Mozambique and scientifically validated through multi-million dollar experiments in Washington, D.C., USA.
Maharishi reveals the Vedas and Vedic literature within human physiology, establishing a profound unity among the entire material diversity of creation, all sciences, and all religions.
Maharishi establishes Maharishi's Vedic universities and Maharishi's Ayurvedic Universities worldwide, offering mastery of Dharma law at every educational level—perfection in every profession.

1994: Maharishi introduces prevention programs in the fields of health and security to create healthy nations and invincible defense shields for nations by establishing a PREVENTIVE WING of yogic flyers within the military of every country.

1995: Maharishi establishes Maharishi's management universities in the USA, Japan, the Netherlands, and Russia, and introduces his Corporate Rejuvenation Program. State leadership in Madhya Pradesh, India, moves to establish MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI VEDIC VISHWA VIDYALAYA (Maharishi's Vedic University) in Madhya Pradesh, making the complete knowledge of Dharma law found in the Vedas and Vedic literature available.

1996: Maharishi establishes a new system for maintaining health—Maharishi's Vedic approach to health—a complete and perfect system for disease prevention and treatment, which views health through the lens of the body's internal intelligence.

1997: Maharishi establishes Global Management through Dharma law, centered around 12 major time-zone capitals worldwide. Maharishi's global construction company was founded in numerous countries to reconstruct the world according to Vedic principles of construction—Sthapatya Veda, Vastu Vidya—building in harmony with Dharma law.

1998: Dr. Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D., received monumental recognition for his groundbreaking discovery: the integrity of the Veda and all Vedic literature—alongside the Devatams and the entire cosmos—is embedded within the physiology of every human being. Through Maharishi's channel, Maharishi Veda Vision, this truth began broadcasting across India, presenting a new vision of Heaven on Earth: the resurgence of Vedic civilization and the dawn of an era defined by peace and happiness.

Maharishi's open university has been established, opening the doors to the complete knowledge of Dharma law to everyone, everywhere, right in their own homes via a network of eight satellites broadcasting to every nation on Earth. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is widely respected as a leading scientist in the field of consciousness and is regarded as the greatest teacher in the world today. Maharishi has completely revitalized millennia of Vedic literature, restoring its full theoretical and practical value by organizing it into a comprehensive science of consciousness.
Maharishi's Vedic science and technology reveal the full potential of Dharma law within human consciousness, serving as the foundation for improving every aspect of life.

Transcendental Meditation—the subjective technology of Maharishi's Vedic science and technology—stands as the most widely practiced and researched self-development program in the world.
Maharishi is establishing Maharishi's Vedic universities and Maharishi's Vedic schools globally. The goal is to provide every individual with mastery over Dharma and the ability to live in alignment with it. This initiative aims to bring perfection to every profession and establish governments in every nation that are governed by Dharma—governments capable of preventing problems before they even arise.

Biography

He passed away peacefully on Tuesday at 7:00 PM. According to TM spokesperson Bob Roth, he died at his home in Vlodrop, located about 125 miles southeast of Amsterdam. While the BBC reports he was between 91 and 97 years old, Maharishi never officially confirmed January 12, 1917, as his actual birth date. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was the founder and leader of the Transcendental Meditation movement.

It is estimated that today, five million people practice TM mantras every single morning.
In a 2006 interview, Maharishi said: "Don't fight the darkness. Just bring the light, and the darkness will vanish."

Born on January 12, 1917, in a small village in Madhya Pradesh, India, he was the third of four children. He later earned his degree in mathematics and physics from Allahabad University.
In 1939, he became a disciple of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, who lived in the Himalayas, and decided to enter the monastic life.
His guru gave him specific instructions: adapt the Vedic meditation and develop a technique that would "enable the masses to meditate."
Following the death of his guru in 1953, Maharishi spent more than 18 months alone in a cave in the Himalayas.
Back in 1995, he was traveling through southern India, preaching and introducing a brand-new meditation technique.
In 1960, the Beatles first crossed paths with Maharishi.
In 1974, Maharishi founded a university in Fairfield, Iowa.
By 1990, after establishing numerous centers across the globe, he relocated to Vlodrop, Netherlands.
In 2001, his followers established a Maharishi Vedic City with an initial population of 200 residents.
Back in 2007, Paul McCartney was a regular at Maharishi's centers in the Netherlands, and that same year, George Harrison made a massive donation to Maharishi's university.

I've been practicing TM for years. Even so, human laziness always creeps in, but whenever I actually stick to it, the difference between my TM days and my non-TM days is massive.
I hold immense respect for Maharishi in my soul, alongside my dear Lord Jesus, who is the master of my life.
Let's skip discussing his presence again—this text is already way too long (my bad).

When I want to explain why meditation matters in plain English, I use a simple comparison: physical hygiene. Just as you brush your teeth and wash your hands to stay clean, Transcendental Meditation is essential mental hygiene. It’s just as necessary.


Sanja

P.S. My apologies, I forgot to greet you all at the start. Also, I was wondering if it's possible to embed music or video directly into a post?

It certainly is, and honestly, we find ourselves doing it quite often... You can include images as well, though I would suggest making sure they aren't excessively large...
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
dustyskipper3 said:Well, there’s actually some discussion about Weltschmerz on the forum here:

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Isn't it just... I don't know, phenomenal? To think that while citizens in the US—or maybe just around 5% of the global population—consume 50% of everything on the planet (fuel, food, clothes, all that), they still feel this immense pressure? It's like, even with all that, everyone is obsessed with losing weight and suffering through it.

I suppose there must be some kind of glitch in that real-symbolic-imaginary triangle we talk about. Maybe because jouissance is always pushing for transgression within the imaginary—the more you have, the more you crave, and that's where the suffering starts. I guess someone with very little doesn't necessarily crave more, but they suffer because, well, they lack it. Like how the North doesn't really want to show solidarity with the South, and the South just can't reach the level of the North. Actually, my question is... I wonder if we are destined to be perpetually trapped in that triangle, or if perhaps we can step outside of it for a moment, then return, nourished by that realization?

I find myself asking that very same question quite often, driven by that same exhausting feeling of spinning in circles... Desires and needs just cycle endlessly, one after another, and every single one comes with its own heavy price. It all stems from this deep-seated fear of dissatisfaction—that if we were to face it, our constructed, imaginary world would suffer an earthquake and risk collapsing entirely. We are all so tightly bound to our illusions, the very things we call our "personal lives." But those cracks that appear when we derail from our imagined tracks... they allow consciousness to momentarily wake us up, just enough to realize that we actually have no clue what we're doing—and for what purpose, really?...

My question is, how do we exit this for good?
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
dustyskipper3 said:I guess our era doesn't really need more geniuses—we've had plenty of those already—but rather martyrs, people who could teach others how to be obedient, even if it means being obedient unto death themselves. What we truly need right now is an awakening... I never forget how God helps me, so I suppose my final wish is that all of this might be done in His honor.

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Søren Kierkegaard

He inspired many, though perhaps very few actually understood him. To some, he seemed quite mad, while to others, his religious devotion felt somewhat off-putting.
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Back in August 1922, Jiddu Krishnamurti underwent a spiritual awakening involving psychological transformation and physical conditioning. He and those close to him referred to it as "the process," which continued with varying intensity until his death. It all began on the 17th, when Krishnamurti complained of intense pain at the base of his skull and a hard, spherical swelling. Over the next few days, things seemed to worsen, with increasing pain, extreme physical discomfort, sensitivity, a total loss of appetite, and occasional bouts of delirium. Then, it appeared as though he were slipping into unconsciousness. Actually, he mentioned that he remained very aware of his surroundings, and in that state, he experienced a mystical sense of oneness.

...I was incredibly happy, because I saw. Nothing could ever be the same again. I drank from clear and pure waters, and my thirst was quenched.... I saw the Light. I touched a compassion that heals all sorrow and suffering; it wasn't just for me, but for the world. ...Love in its full glory has intoxicated my heart; my heart can never be closed again. I drank from the well of Joy and eternal Beauty. I am intoxicated by God.


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Jiddu Krishnamurti

Many tried to grasp what he was. At the moment of his death, he said only: "Nobody."

One could probably list other examples, like Friedrich Nietzsche or Fyodor Dostoevsky, but even with these two, one can prove the following truth: that great insight comes with a heavy price.
Would you ever want to experience—not just hear about—what the world might look like if all evil and suffering were suddenly "lifted" from it, like a veil? Evil exists only within the human mind.

It’s true, you rarely hear him brought up in conversation these days.

There were rumors that he struggled with mental health, that he eventually lost his grip on reality, or something along those lines...
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
Hermann Hesse ignited the very first spark within me through his book 'Demian'. I was reading it in my early twenties, and ever since then, nothing has ever been quite the same; a profound shift occurred deep inside me, a sudden realization that a spiritual realm truly exists...

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"The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas."

Two of his other absolute masterpieces are Siddhartha and The Glass Bead Game.
I would recommend Siddhartha to anyone just starting their spiritual journey without any hesitation whatsoever...
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
hiddenhound3 said:Indeed, I have always found it fascinating how human stupidity tends toward the misuse and total misunderstanding of every single gift it receives. 😢

As long as people fail to recognize their own inherent strengths as the true path toward peace, harmony, and love, we will continue to see endless cults and organizations popping up everywhere... 😉

I look at it this way: if I am practicing what he preached, while simultaneously letting go of any attachment to the outcome—feeling purely grateful that someone out there in the world shared my soul, that he succeeded, and can therefore depart this life in peace—😉
then I truly care for others. Let them go ahead and start their little societies, invoking the names of Jesus, Buddha, or Jiddu Krishnamurti... they haven't understood a thing. But I have, and that is the only thing that matters to me. And I know deep down he would be happy seeing that... 😍
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
hiddenhound3 said:I agree that there seems to have been a slight misunderstanding here, though if you search for Jiddu Krishnamurti on Google, you'll be flooded with all those images.

It appears that Bruna was actually referring to this gentleman.

We have previously discussed how vital it is to spark a radical revolution within the human mind.
The crisis we face is, fundamentally, a crisis of consciousness.
It is a crisis born from the fact that we can no longer accept outdated norms, obsolete standards, or ancient traditions.
And, considering the state of the world today, with all its
misery,
conflicts,
destructive brutality,
aggression,
and so on...
Humanity remains exactly what it has always been.
Still brutal,
violent,
aggressive,
possessive,
and greedy.
And, predictably, he has constructed a society that mirrors these very traits.

Flori, thanks so much for the link... 🙂 God bless YouTube... 🙂
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Bruna, are we looking at a bit of a mix-up here?😕 From what you're saying, I assume you mean Jiddu Krishnamurti, but the photo below actually looks like a different version of him—specifically Jiddu Krishnamurti... honestly, I was quite delighted because once I saw the picture, I realized it's of that nihilist I happen to have a huge collection of books by!

Yeah, it's definitely Jiddu 🙂 I'm not even sure how I managed to mix up the photo like that... 😵
It felt a little off to me, too, but since the image on his book shows him in his younger years, I just figured, well, people age and change over time 😁 And if I'm being honest, those two Krishnamurtis actually look somewhat similar 🤷
They're both quite handsome, in their own way... 🙂
I'm going to go ahead and swap out the photo now...
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
A little chat never hurts, though I don't think we need three entire pages dedicated to discussing Žižek and his muscle mass 😁
Well, honestly, who cares! If he were looking for a wife, I’d happily sign up myself... 😍
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
Now that I've touched upon the two most significant ones, I could honestly go on forever... 😁

Slavoj Žižek, that brilliant leftist philosopher from Europe, is someone I hold in incredibly high regard; I find myself constantly drawn to his deep dives into current global affairs. He’s become quite the staple in the mainstream lately—you see him everywhere, being interviewed or cited, he even made an appearance over at Ace's 😬, and goodness, Ace, you really should invite him back to chat, who knows, maybe about Obama... 😁
He is widely recognized as a sharp critic of liberal capitalism and the general philosophy of living within our postmodern society. As a staunch atheist, he argues that the world might actually find liberation and healing if religion were to simply vanish. What I find most fascinating is how he weaves cinematic references into his theories, using scenes from various movies to illuminate complex ideas. In fact, I am the proud owner of his book, "The Pervert's Guide to Film" 😍
I am absolutely captivated by his prose, the specific vocabulary he employs, and those intricate linguistic patterns that feel like a true mental puzzle to untangle...
He can be quite entertaining, occasionally leaning into a nihilistic tone, though I suspect he only does so to highlight the essence of our modern era, which seems to be steadily losing its humanity...
For a woman who values her social standing and intellectual reputation, Žižek is an absolute must-read... 😳 🥳

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And honestly, heavens, he’s gone and married some young thing recently—supposedly someone three times younger than himself... 🙏
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
coastalstag15 said:Look, if we take a specific example from philosophy wine, the author basically argues that women are absolutely wonderful and sublime—blah, blah, blah—but strictly on the condition that they remain beautiful (he draws this whole comparison to fine wine). According to him, an unattractive woman is just a miserable existence, and he can't even fathom what her purpose would be 🤣 😲
To him, an unattractive woman is essentially a glitch in the system, like some kind of biological error or a fundamental disability

Oh, I haven't actually read philosophy wine yet, so you've certainly piqued my curiosity... 😁
I'm not quite sure how his particular line of thinking will land with me once I dive in.
I suppose all I can say is that the man certainly had a profound appreciation for beautiful women 🤷
and honestly, that seems perfectly natural and even commendable for a man. When it comes to aesthetics involving people, it’s such a delicate, sensitive territory... you can choose to voice your opinion and deal with the fallout, or you can just be diplomatic and keep it to yourself 😉
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
coastalstag15 said:Bela Hamvas 🙏 was actually translated by one of my professors back in college, and when I sat for the final exam, they handed me an A and a copy of 😍 philosophy wine as a little bonus—easily the best exam experience I've ever had!
He’s a brilliant philosopher, even if I find some of his takes on women a bit hard to swallow, but I suppose we can live with that. 🤷

I actually found myself momentarily captivated by one of his arguments regarding women, though I attribute that mostly to his right to hold his own convictions—it is entirely possible I simply missed the deeper nuance of what he truly intended to convey. I am speaking purely from memory here, as I don't have the text directly in front of me at this moment...
yet, despite those flaws, he ultimately declared the feminine principle and its energy to be the most potent force in the entire universe within his writings on the 'androgynous'...
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
Bela Hamvas, that legendary American writer and essayist, dedicated his entire creative life to exploring the vast tapestry of global mythology and ancient lore, using it to trace the gradual decline of humanity—a slow descent into the corruption of our very essence as we forget our true origins in spirit and God.
His work truly transcends its era; it exists far beyond the mundane reaches of everyday life, effortlessly unlocking the doors to the subconscious and whispering truths that we already intuitively know deep within ourselves. To truly grasp his message, one might need a lifetime of reflection and a certain depth of spiritual experience... You can dive into his writings endlessly, and you will always emerge with fresh insights. However, those who are too easily swayed by powerful intellects may fall into the trap of becoming mere followers, which, ironically, undermines the very independence of thought he advocates for.
His perspective feels remarkably similar to that of Jiddu Krishnamurti.
Hamvas seeks to confront everything in human history that stands in opposition to life and the human spirit, peering into myths and religions through a lens reminiscent of Carl Jung to uncover their deeper meanings. He speaks to the profound significance of the ancient traditions that serve as the roots of all faiths, yet he remains staunchly opposed to organized religion itself, holding it responsible for the distortion of our true nature. Someone once described him quite perfectly: Hamvas is an anti-religious theist, whereas Friedrich Nietzsche is a religious antitheist.

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So, there you have it—just a brief overview and some fundamental thoughts on these two Great Souls. I suspect they will continue to serve as my inspiration until the very end of my days... 😉
Portraits that inspire you in Spirituality ·
What a fantastic topic, Florine... 👍 Come on, everyone, let's hear your thoughts...

Among the many people whose works and reflections have provided me with a sense of grounding, there are two thinkers to whom I owe a special kind of debt—two souls who truly resonate with my own spiritual wavelength: Jiddu Krishnamurti and Bela Hamvas.

Krishnamurti speaks of a life lived through pure, uncomplicated simplicity, where our only true anchor and teacher is ourselves. There’s almost an anarchic quality to how he rejects all external authority and outside influence, insisting instead on the importance of a tranquil mind and the love that naturally blossoms from such a state. Even after walking away from the Theosophical Society, which he once led, he continued to forge his own path in his own unique way. His philosophy nurtures a mentally resilient individual, someone liberated from needless frustration, where enlightenment isn't a distant goal but something that occurs within the quiet, steady rhythm of daily existence, at any given moment. To him, enlightenment—or Nirvana—isn't a gradual climb, but rather a sudden occurrence: it happens now, or it never happens at all.
Krishnamurti describes a man who is truly free, from the very core of his being to the way he interacts with the world around him.

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Edit 01/27 - added a photo of Jiddu🙂
Debates about meditation in Spirituality ·
coastalskipper92 said:For me, the best kind of meditation happens when I actually notice something—which is rare, since my visual perception isn't exactly sharp

Today, I caught something

Someone was posting on the forum about getting lost in thought... just staring at something and dwelling on how things are right NOW.. specifically as 🥳 passes by

Well, I stumbled upon something entirely by accident today, and it sparked this sudden burst of creativity...
And it’s only just hitting me that I actually saw it....

I suppose I'll know I've made progress once I realize I've noticed it—when I'm constantly perceiving the present moment....
And I am doing that now, though in a different way

(The self-proclaimed enlightened types would probably try to tell me when I've finally "reached it," but honestly? They wouldn't have a clue)

Besides, this has nothing to do with reaching transcendence after a long day of lotus positions; on that point, I agree with Edward Flores4

It sounds like you experienced a meditative state triggered by something in your environment—essentially, it was your own perception of it. That’s why creative work is such a powerful tool; it fosters those specific states where time simply seems to stand still, and you find yourself pouring your entire being into whatever you are creating.

Meditation, when practiced as a disciplined exercise for concentration and mental clarity through "emptiness," is a different beast entirely. It doesn't usually arrive as spontaneously as it does during a flow state in creative work, and it requires a much higher level of discipline to achieve...
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Andrew Sanchez572, honestly, I really don't know what you're trying to get out of me here...🙄
Unfortunately, I just don't have the luxury of time to sit here and unpack every single one of my thoughts for you in exhaustive detail, though I truly feel like you're an intelligent enough person to start reading between the lines...
Your issue seems to be a fundamental inability to accept that there are different perspectives and lived experiences regarding the exact same subject—in this case, the intersection of sexuality and spirituality. I haven't been attacking you or trying to force you to admit you're wrong; I simply stated what MY own perspective is on the matter.
By the way, I’ve provided plenty of arguments to support my side of things, but since all you seem capable of doing is insisting that I'm incorrect without offering any actual substance (just empty 😉 arguments), I find myself at a total loss for how to respond intelligently...
It feels like we are operating from entirely different foundational principles, so I think it's best if I step away from this particular conversation with you. Please understand, there's nothing personal about this at all, everything is fine...😉
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Andrew Sanchez572 said:Crowley did coin the term Magik, 🙂

but you didn't specify that you were referring to Crowley's Magik; you were speaking about Magik in general.
Furthermore, you haven't explained how Crowley's—or rather, my Magik—differs from yours, or why it doesn't align?
And what, exactly, constitutes your version of Magik?

I fail to see how this sentence contradicts my assertion that Magik is quite far removed from spontaneity, coercion, or a lack of love...

Andrew Sanchez572, it’s honestly no surprise that we aren't seeing eye to eye when we are starting from such fundamentally different perspectives...
You see, you are presenting us here with something that someone else invented, someone else imagined and then decided to publish. You are receiving ideas from others; you are a follower of someone else's philosophy. And look, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
But have you ever stopped to wonder if that very thing acts as a tether for you? Does it prevent you from truly grasping what another person thinks and feels at their core?

I, on the other hand, am a practitioner of my own internal visions. I am the architect of my own Magika, the author of my own laws and rituals, and the sole judge of my actions is my own conscience...
And since we are discussing various codes of conduct, I find myself much more aligned with the principle: "Do what thou wilt, so long as it harms no one else."
There is really no need for me to explain the intricacies of my Magika to you, because, quite frankly, I don't know you well enough yet, and those are conversations I reserve for people close to me, those in whom I place my trust...

There is no such thing as "my" magic or "your" magic. Magika is simply Magika, and its nature is defined entirely by the individual practicing it. It is a deeply personal matter...
I happen to find Crowley's specific terminology—Magika—rather elegant, which is why I've adopted it myself.

I don't understand how this sentence contradicts my claim that Magika is a far cry from being unspontaneous, forced, or devoid of love.

Well, it doesn't contradict it at all. In fact, I fully respect your right to exercise your own free will, to practice love, sexuality, and spirituality in whatever way feels most authentic to you...
If anything, that is where the true beauty and charm lie—in the fact that we are all different😉, and that we can learn from one another if we choose to... provided we remain open-minded and capable of truly understanding one another.
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Andrew Sanchez572 said:wiredbear2, you’re absolutely right that an experience is inherently subjective; if it weren't, we wouldn't call it an experience in the first place.
However, you mentioned earlier that Magika excludes spirituality. This leads me to wonder... have you actually practiced Magika enough to have the firsthand experience of it excluding spirituality?
Because if you have, you didn't just say you struggle to connect Magika with spontaneity—which seems to be your main gateway to spiritual feeling—you claimed that Magika, as a whole, excludes spirituality (including love, spontaneity, and all those other things you listed).

To my mind, that assertion is fundamentally flawed, given that the core motto of Magika is:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.

Therefore, it stands quite far from being anything involving coercion, a lack of love, a lack of spontaneity, or any of the other things you described...

Whose Magika are we even discussing? Clearly, we are talking about the system of A. Crowley...😉
Within the specific framework of his vision of Magika, perhaps I am incorrect. But that is no different from me being "incorrect" in my perception of you. And just as you both might disagree with my perspective, I find myself at odds with yours too...
The same principle of subjectivity applies here, since my own practice of Magika doesn't necessarily fit within the boundaries of the system you're describing...

Andrew Sanchez572 said:wiredbear2, you’re absolutely right that an experience is inherently subjective; if it weren't, we wouldn't call it an experience in the first place.
However, you mentioned earlier that Magika excludes spirituality. This leads me to wonder... have you actually practiced Magika enough to have the firsthand experience of it excluding spirituality?
Because if you have, you didn't just say you struggle to connect Magika with spontaneity—which seems to be your main gateway to spiritual feeling—you claimed that Magika, as a whole, excludes spirituality (including love, spontaneity, and all those other things you listed).

To my mind, that assertion is fundamentally flawed, given that the core motto of Magika is:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.

Therefore, it stands quite far from being anything involving coercion, a lack of love, a lack of spontaneity, or any of the other things you described...

No, it isn't that; rather, my will simply differs from yours. We are both merely acting according to our own respective wills...😉
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Andrew Sanchez572 said:Goodness, I wonder why posts of this nature aren't prohibited by the moderators? 😁
Could you perhaps articulate your thought process more clearly and, by the way, elaborate on exactly what point you are supporting and the reasoning behind it?
The previous post contains quite a bit of content, including several claims that are simply inaccurate...

They aren't... unless the quote itself stretches on for miles...

because the previous post includes quite a bit of information, including some claims that just aren't accurate.

My dear Andrew Sanchez572, it is virtually impossible to discuss things here in terms of absolute right or wrong, because neither you nor I can provide scientific proof for the things we are asserting...
What we can really offer is merely our own subjective experience regarding the intersection of sexuality and spirituality...
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Elizabeth Bishop4 said:But what happens if, say, you just can't find someone who actually fits? Does that mean you're basically sentenced to a life that feels incomplete or unhappy?

Ultimately, it all comes down to you. You aren't condemned to anything unless you decide to sentence yourself to it...
After all, sexuality isn't just about another person, nor is it strictly limited to your own physical self. To me, it’s a much broader concept than that. It always involves you and someone—or something—else, even if that "something" doesn't have to be a physical presence standing right next to you. I mean, why do you think witches used to wander naked through the woods under a full moon? It's because there is something incredibly primal and sexy about that connection... the raw sexuality of the self facing off against the wildness of nature itself...😉
Sexuality in spirituality in Spirituality ·
Elizabeth Bishop4 said:But seriously, what does it even mean to be "self-sufficient" in that way? Could you maybe dive a little deeper into what you mean by that?

How? Well, it’s quite simple, really—you just learn to be whole on your own, realizing you don't strictly need another person to witness or share your most beautiful moments, because you can experience those joys entirely by yourself. You can explore your own sexuality, too, finding ways to make it feel absolutely incredible through self-discovery and deep exploration... and Andrew Sanchez572 is always sending me messages about exactly that. There is nothing wrong with that, and you can certainly feel fulfilled and find spiritual elevation through it. But—that isn't the whole truth. I truly believe that human beings are designed for partnership, not for total isolation. And I think that applies to our sexuality as well...
Perhaps it works for a limited season of life due to various circumstances, but it shouldn't be the default setting...