Look, some people swear you need a top-tier cooler no matter how much you spend. Others would rather drop a fortune on a killer line of unlocked processors. And then there are those who’d just rather grab a Starbucks latte (we all know who I'm talking about)
Give me a break. As if some random lady is gonna pop up and say "cpu overc. failed, please..." I'm the one who got hit with a black screen when I tried bumping those Barton sticks (the non-m ones) to 200 FSB in the BIOS—not some lady. It was driving me absolutely insane, so I just shut the whole thing down. <- as you can see, we’ve got a total pro working the job here.
I’ve got a massive 3D game right here that’s only 96kb. It’s got graphics hitting that old-school UT levels, six different weapons, and you can sink hours into it—though you won't actually beat it 😬 .
That’s what real optimization looks like. 😎
Give me a break. Those guys spent two years grinding out something like *Krieger*. Who even writes code in Assembly anymore? And don't forget, even on my setup with a 9600 modem, a Pentium 2500+ (on your fancy new board), and 2x256 RAM, the thing still stutters and hitches like crazy. Try running it on a low-end rig and then we'll talk about "results."
dustypilot23 said:My other IBM 60 GB drive just kicked the bucket on me the other day.😁
Thank God I grabbed a 200 GB Seagate just last week and moved everything over.🙂
Remember what I told you over coffee, Ba? I warned you that drive was on its way out since you were basically the only guy I knew still running an IBM back then.
@ Raymond Rodriguez40
Kate 333 and the 6800 are still kicking. Talk about luck.
The beast. But honestly, the most important thing is that it hits hard and sounds smooth 🙂
Man, where are you even going to crank those? On a patio or a balcony, maybe. Don't tell me you're planning to blast them indoors and expect to keep your windows intact! For me, 30W is plenty, though I'd be happy with something like 17W + 2x6W (like those Creative P380s). One of my gearhead buddies claims his Gigaworks setup pulls 500W from massive half-meter cabinets, yet he barely touches 10% of the total power. If you ask me, that’s just overkill for an indoor space.
Frank Grant said:This is straight from the official Asus pages.
"Both temperature readings are accurate. Once HT mode is toggled on, instructions from both logical processors run at the same time... blah, blah, blahblahblah
Man, forget about HT. You're rocking an X-X board for an athlon =; you don't even have dual-channel DDR support, let alone some hyperthreading magic.
Look, I did some digging into this once. Apparently, there’s a whole mess of formulas out there trying to calculate the delta between what the BIOS reports and what something like Asus Probe or other hardware monitors show. Most of those math equations are way too damn complicated to be worth my time. At the end of the day, neither the BIOS nor the software is giving you the real truth anyway.
@ dustypilot23 I heard you picked up an Antec Lansing 2.1 setup—is it actually any good? What kind of RMS are we talking about here?
Mr.Ex.President said:I'm running a Zalman with Arctic 5 paste and my temps stay at 45 (max) at 2450MHz.🙂
Nice try, Mr. President. But I’ve said it loud and clear—in basically every major US paper except maybe the local rag—that any Zalman (even the 7000-Cu) isn't meant for AMD. It's better suited for a Pentium 4. The surface area on an AMD chip is just too small for those heat conduits to actually do their job.
@ dustypilot23 So, looks like gut feeling was right after all. You clearly have a cooling issue. My AMD hits 50C at 2.7GHz while cranking Prime95, but once I drop it to 2.6, the max temp sits at 44C. I didn't spend three weeks scouring international OC forums for nothing before pulling the trigger on this cooler. If I hadn't done the legwork, I probably would've fallen for the Zalman hype too, whether it was the Al-Cu or even the Swifteka V-462.
Just checking to see if anyone’s interested. (I know a guy who would definitely grab it, but he totaled his car the day before yesterday). Which mobile chip are we talking about here??? In my humble opinion, your CPU cooler just isn't cutting it. I can hit 13x200 with a Pope cooler, but with an 80x80x38 Delta, I can even squeeze out 13.5x200 ;-))) <- air cooling is basically useless. Unfortunately, once I push to 14x200, Windows starts throwing these weird blue screens I've never seen before.
3dmark03=4600 (9500pro)
Regarding coffee, I'm slammed right now since I'm on the afternoon shift, but maybe next week when my schedule flips (if you're free)
So, Elada is playing favorites now, huh? Welcome to the club. First things first: every single AMD-XP-M can hit 2.4GHz, so there’s zero reason yours shouldn't. How much did you drop on that Thermaltake cooler? (And don't tell me it was basically two bucks and a half-liter of cheap coffee). Like I mentioned before, I’ve got the top-tier 92 running at 1980RPM => 21dB—basically silent—and that’s after I pushed it up to 2.6GHz myself. What kind of RAM are we looking at here? (Let me guess, some Kingmax gold-plated BGA garbage?) I gotta hand it to you, you got lucky with the power supply. Your rig could've easily fried the moment you hit the power button.
Do me a favor and run 3DMark03 (default) so I can see that score.
Overclocking software inside Windows???? Give me a break. I’ve heard some motherboards support it, but I wouldn't want anything like that even breathing within five miles of my hard drive, regardless of the media. It’s much better to just jump into the BIOS, tinker around until you hit the sweet spot—or fry everything and deal with the headache of a warranty claim, waiting forever for service (especially if you bought it from some bottom-tier discount retailer)—and then try again. Eventually, you get it dialed in and you're good to go. Honestly though, if you really want to skip the drama, just buy a more powerful rig and call it a day.
Easy for you to say, General. The drives aren't actually slow (it's just a WD 80JB 8mb SATA). The real headache is the Sillimage 3112 RAID performance. The RAID cluster is 16K, and since I formatted the partition at that exact same size (using magic 8), there’s barely any difference compared to a single SATA drive—at least according to my HD Taco 2.7 tests. Meanwhile, Sandra {the lying bitch} claims there's an 80% difference.
Dammit! Wish I’d caught this before I finished building the rig. For some reason, the best overclocking tips always fly right over my head. So far, I can report that Prime 95 passes (after 10 hours) at 2.6GHz (13x200) -> basically a standard mobile chip at 2500. Vcore sits around 1.90~1.93. Temps are hitting 38 C -> under full load (running prime) it's about 44 C. All of this is just on air cooling. I tried pushing it to 2.7G with 2.03 volts and it actually works, but there's a catch—I had to use a Delta 80x80x38 double ball bearing fan with over 60 CFM, and UNFORTUNATELY, it hits 53 dB. I had to suck it up and go back to the 92mm Papst and 2.6 GHz.
@ frozenotter6 Huh, weird how your Corsair memory runs fine with such high latencies. Unless you've got some specific value -> Winbond CH5 situation going on. Right now I'm running 2x512 Supertalent (think Xerox RAM -> you wouldn't believe it, but they actually make memory) at 2-3-3-6 @2.6V. When I'm feeling ambitious, I'll try 2-2-2-11 @2.9V to see if performance jumps (honestly, probably just a few percent in the real world).
And yeah, the GPU is the bottleneck. I've got an old 9500pro (BIOS modded to a 9700pro) and I managed to bump it from 276/270 up to 360/310 (thanks to crappy infineon 3.3 memory) using an AC VGA Silencer 3.0, but it won't budge any further. In theory, that's like jumping from a 3650 on Mark03 to 4600. I can run Doom3 on ultrahigh details (1024*768*32 with everything ON except AA). It's a weird "ultrahigh" setting -> it probably detects the card and caps it. Anyone got ideas on how to squeeze more out of this thing? I already tried Zalmanov BGA heat sinks and a fan blowing vertically over them, but that just tanked my performance -> that stupid zalmanov adhesive messes with the heat conduction and the RAM ends up running hotter.
The SATA RAID 0 setup was also a letdown (Sisoft Sandra 2004 sp1 says 77mb/s average s vs 47mb/s)).