Posts by Noah Parker2

Casey Palmer5 said:http://www.fisiobrain.com/ftopic-2200-0.html

There’s a whole discussion on this forum—if you knew who to read or if you actually spoke Italian, that is.

So, I took a quick look at this forum in Italian—and honestly, if I decided to translate it all and post it here, wiredowl9 might just end it all... 🙂 ...so it’s probably best if I don't add anything else... except for this: if you want your cars to be branded as Mercedes-Benz, you can't just shove a Fiat engine in there... that pretty much sums it up.

Just wanted to satisfy your curiosity, dear colleague

I actually found out about the course because I was browsing kinesiotaping.com online—I saw that Italy was the closest country to the US dealing with Kinesio Taping—so I searched for Kinesiotaping on www.google.it and ended up on the page www.kinesiotapingitalia.it
I called the number listed on the site and spent nearly half an hour talking to a Mr. Paul... he was a really kind guy, by the way... and during our chat, he walked me through all the details—the courses, the accreditation, all that good stuff..

I honestly don't get why you're dragging Natalia into this when she has absolutely nothing to do with it here... but since you've gone ahead and called her out so harshly... it would be nice if you introduced yourself too, especially since you claim to have such great INTUITION 🤣

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST WROTE?

3. I’d just like to know how you think a diploma or certificate is going to be banned here in the States. Who isn't going to recognize it? Maybe Natalia Divković? And who is Natalia Divković? Is it some regulatory body in the US responsible for recognizing diplomas and certificates?

And who said anything about a diploma or certificate being banned?! Seriously, maybe don't consume anything before you start posting on the forum 🙏

You’re the one looking for bans (oh, excuse me, Madam Regulatory Body)... look at what you wrote:
By the way, you guys changed the number of training hours—shortened the first and second levels of Kinesio Taping by a day—which clearly doesn't match the required schedule, so we’re going to suggest to the APTA that they don't recognize this training.

And it’s not clear to me who "YOU" are 🤣 SOME KIND OF SECRET SOCIETY? Who exactly knows how many hours of Kinesio Taping are required?
Again, I’m telling you, check what you wrote in your last post before you write a new one.

I have no idea how you know whether someone succeeded or failed, or will succeed or fail... it makes me wonder if you're reading tarot cards over your morning coffee or taking some wild psychology course or something?...

Another quote:
You started badmouthing Bruno Cosim, so I'm not interested in Natalia Divković's poor marketing on this forum; I just need to clarify things so the general public doesn't get the wrong impression.

Either you're completely blind or you're just pretending to be... I really don't get it... but you're slowly forming impressions, and my impression of you isn't exactly great—it's actually getting worse....... I already told you that I don't consider Mr. Bruno to be a bad instructor at all (even though I haven't met him personally, I've heard plenty of good things), and I have no idea why you're claiming I was badmouthing him... I am telling you AGAIN that the courses Bruno teaches aren't licensed by the MAIN Kinesio Taping organization that holds the license for the tapes and the name... unless you have some data you can show me to prove otherwise?! 🙄

I don't know who is badmouthing whom here... just look again at what you wrote... good grief, I've lost count of how many times you've contradicted yourself... look at this:
Actually, you're basically providing free advertising for your wife, Natalia Divković, who organizes this course for her own private interests.
Tell me, on what basis is international instructor Bruno Cosim no longer an instructor? Since Natalia Divković took a Kinesio Taping course from Bruno Cosim, does that mean her diploma isn't recognized anymore? Have some shame; you're just tripping over your own feet.

First, you talk nonsense about Natalia being my wife and all this supposed advertising,
then you talk about me badmouthing people... maybe check who is actually doing the badmouthing and how... because the impressions
you're creating are really for the general public... 🤣 no comment

And Mr. Bruno isn't an international instructor based on the Kinesio Taping organization operating in America that is connected to Japan, which—for some reason—no longer recognizes him as an instructor. But since the "international APTA organization" isn't being counted here, that means Mr. Bruno is still an international instructor for the "international APTA Kinesio Taping" group.🤣 With branches all over the world... wait, where's POLAND listed? ...Oops, I didn't see where you mentioned that—could you enlighten me a bit? I’d really appreciate it. ☕

Maybe try a quick search online... you might actually surprise yourself 👍 Anyone who’s following this thread—just go online and look up Kinesiotaping... you know what you'll find?
www.kinesiotaping.com ...If you have another official site, please, just drop it here.

Honestly, I've been through plenty of courses—some legitimate ones and some "LEGITIMATE" ones—so I've learned how to do my own homework and protect myself.

I started this whole thread just out of good intentions toward my colleagues.
And honestly, I don't get why you're getting defensive—are you running courses or selling tape? 😕 If you've got Kinesio Tex or a licensed course that's actually authentic and reasonably priced, then by all means, post an ad so people can find you.

I want to apologize to everyone who got dragged into this because of you... it wasn't
my intention to badmouth anyone—anyone with common sense will see that if they read through everything here.

Cheers from an INFORMED colleague. 👍

wiredowl9 said:Honestly, you're basically just running free ads for your wife, Natalia Divković—using her course to push her own private interests.
Can someone explain why international instructor Bruno Cosim isn't considered an instructor anymore? I mean—Natalia Divković took her Kinesiotaping course directly from him. So now, apparently, her certification just doesn't count? Honestly, shame on us—we're basically just tripping ourselves up at this point.
Bruno Cosim actually moved from that American association your wife supports over to the European one for Kinesio Taping—so, really, there's no reason to call him a fraud.
Just so you know—for both your information and your wife's—the APTA acts as the official representative for physical therapy here in the US, and they're the ones who actually handle the validation of all those extra certifications for physiotherapists.
By the way—they actually changed the training hours and cut a whole day off both the Level 1 and Level 2 Kinesiotaping courses—and honestly, looking at the schedule, it just doesn't add up. Because of that, we’re going to suggest to the APTA that they don't grant accreditation for this training.

I honestly have no clue where you get the idea that Natalia Divković is my wife—not sure where that came from! 🤣🤣
You might have been misinformed on that one—honestly, I think there might be a bit of a misunderstanding here. 😂
I honestly don't buy that this is being organized for private interests—not when you consider who's actually behind it.
Regarding the Kinesio Taping Association—I'm actually not sure where exactly Natalia took her course—but if she did, it was likely through the Kinesio Taping Association itself... and look, I never said Bruno Cosim isn't an instructor—I certainly didn't say he was bad, quite the opposite, actually—what I meant was that this specific session wasn't a Kinesio Taping COURSE with an official CERTIFICATE from the Kinesio Taping Association, which is just the plain truth.
Look, I don't know what exactly was changed or wasn't—I just care about what's legitimate. For me, the only thing that matters is knowing where the actual knowledge comes from and where you get the official certificate... but clearly, you're focused on something else entirely.

Where is Bruno Cosim these days? Honestly, I haven't a clue... and as for getting that course recognized—I don't think the APTA is the one to ask here—it would be more about whoever is actually representing the course, if I recall correctly. www.kinesiotaping.com And if you honestly think someone is pulling strings behind the scenes over there... you should really go check it out for yourself. Check out this link—it’s all about the international side of things regarding Kinesio Taping: http://www.kinesiotapingitalia.it/de...ernational.asp Or just give Paul a call... and vent all that frustration to him. 🙂

Looks like that post really got under your skin—you must have some kind of grudge against Natalia and her husband... or maybe—wait—against me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣

Check out this page www.natalis-n.com—it has all the details about the course.

I actually went ahead and reached out to the folks in Italy myself... gave them a call and had a real conversation with him...

He told me that Natalis-N—a firm based out of Pula—is the authorized distributor for Kinesio Tex here, and they’re organizing the course alongside Natalis-N and an instructor coming straight from the States
who is traveling to Europe (specifically Italy and the US) just for this purpose (to run the KT1 and KT2 courses)...

We're talking actual AMERICAN INSTRUCTORS.... because Americans have basically taken full control of the whole thing, mostly to deal with those "wild west" types 👎 ... anyway... I heard heads are going to roll over these scammers, and apparently, things are already heading toward the courts... well, you know how people say: "you get what you pay for." 🙂 👍

I think you might be mistaken here...
That degree really does matter—just imagine spending four years grinding through college only to get a handshake and a "Congrats, you're educated, too bad you can't actually prove it to anyone" at the end. 🙂

Anyway... regarding that Kinesio Taping course... it’s being held right here in the States by a legitimate, licensed pro—and I've actually looked into the specifics...

Vincent DeBono, DC, NSCA, CKTIvdebono@nuhs.edu

Vincent DeBono, DC, NSCA, CKTI is the Vice President of Academic Services at National University of Health Sciences and a CKTI. He is certified by the NSCA as a Strength and Conditioning Specialist. He's a huge runner, too—he's knocked out five marathons and six triathlons. He graduated from NUHS in 1989.

2006-Present: Vice President of Academic Services at National University of Health Sciences

2005 to 2006: Dean of Clinics, National University of Health Sciences, Lombard Clinic, 200 East Roosevelt Road, Lombard, IL 60418.

Duties Include: Chief of Staff of all clinical faculty. Responsible for NUHS Administration of the clinical education programs for interns within the NUHS clinic system. Responsible for NUHS Administration of policy and procedures for all clinical faculty of NUHS clinic systems.

He'll be coming to the US in May to run a course where you actually get a diploma, the original literature, and everything else you'd expect from a legitimate training program....

And honestly... if anyone thinks a knockoff is just as good as the real thing... forget about it. I've personally tested several different brands... and let me tell you, the Kinesio Tex registered trademark is hands-down the best tape out there for Kinesiotaping.

Anyone claiming otherwise clearly hasn't worked with the genuine stuff... and if you check the prices, you'll see the original isn't even more expensive than the fakes—it's actually cheaper!

Bottom line... I know I'm not buying my gear from overseas shady sites... would you?

I've been noticing a ton of buzz lately regarding Kinesio Taping... and man, so many people seem really eager to jump into these courses... I even spotted on this site that they're running a training session—and apparently through the APTA!?!?

Now, look, it sounds great on paper, but there's a catch—this isn't actually a course recognized by the official Kinesio Taping Association, and you won't find any certified INSTRUCTORS from the actual Kinesio Taping company teaching it...

If you're looking for a LEGIT course—one where you actually walk away with a REAL Kinesio certificate and the right study materials—my advice is to head over to www.kinesiotapingitalia.it to check out when and where the official, LEGAL workshops are happening...

Honestly, I wouldn't have even caught onto this whole scam if it wasn't for a colleague of mine who works with Kinesio Taping—he gave me a heads-up to steer clear of that FAKE course because the "diploma" they hand out is basically just good for lighting a campfire. 🙂

It’s like this:
My wife just got home from her surgery at the Mayo Clinic about two hours ago. I have to tell you all right now—PLEASE BE CAREFUL.
Here’s the deal... she had surgery on both eyes to correct a -5 prescription. The first eye was handled by Dr. Gabric and it turned out fine—but then they let some kid play around with the other eye, and that's where things went south... because after the procedure, they put some kind of corrective lens in that eye?!??
But of course, before you go under the knife, you sign a contract stating you're willing to accept ANY AND ALL problems... basically... if you end up blind because of some idiot who was barely out of residency... you can just cry to God.
Then there's the matter of them calling this a "minor" procedure... and the discharge papers she got were legendary—meaning they didn't say a single damn thing useful.
They told her verbally that they restored 60% of the vision in one eye... seriously... who thinks that's okay? THIS SURGERY COSTS $2,000 $0.00 for both eyes, and they're handing back 60%... unbelievable... absolutely insane.
When she asked the nurse on duty if that meant the 60% vision was the final result... the nurse just said she’d have to ask Gabric, because "how should I know?"... she didn't know.
The discharge summary looks like this:
ON JANUARY 12, 2008, AT THE MAYO CLINIC, THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE WAS PERFORMED:
OPERATION: LASIK OU.

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PATIENT:
- UPON ARRIVAL HOME, TAKE A 2 OR 5 MG ASPIRIN TABLET
- SLEEP FOR A FEW HOURS
- IF YOU HAVE PAIN UPON WAKING, TAKE A VOLTAREN RAPID TABLET.
(THE CLINIC DOESN'T PROVIDE THE PILLS—YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY THEM YOURSELF AFTER THE SURGERY... BECAUSE APPARENTLY $2,000 $0.00 ISN'T ENOUGH TO cover three lousy pills, so people try to save money where they can, but honestly, what's the big deal with running to a pharmacy? But no... they also recommended specific sunglasses... which you also have to buy yourself to save money... and even those from $13 are fine... but like I said... $6.75 is way too little for all this "extra equipment.")
- EYE DROPS: USE TOBREX 5X DAILY (3 DAYS), EFFLUMIDEX 5X DAILY (10 TO 14 DAYS), AND SZSTANE 5-7X DAILY (30 DAYS)
- PATIENT REQUIRES MEDICAL LEAVE
Follow-up tomorrow
In case of emergency, contact Dr. Gabric at: xxxxxxxxxx

I mean, seriously, WHAT KIND OF TRASH DISCHARGE PAPER IS THAT?!?!

After the surgery... you aren't allowed to be in bright light, wash your hair, go into dark rooms, etc., for at least 10 days. You can't lift anything heavier than a bag of rice for 7 days, etc... in other words, anyone who thought this was an operation where "I'll just go home and watch TV" is being HORRIBLY mistaken... BUT OF COURSE, THEY WON'T TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THE SURGERY... so that you don't back out at the last minute.

So PLEASE THINK VERY HARD BEFORE DOING THIS... as for what happens next... I'll update you in 10 days.

Here’s the deal:
My wife just got home from her surgery at the Mayo Clinic about two hours ago—and honestly, I need to warn you all right now. PLEASE be careful.
So, here's what happened... she had surgery on both eyes to correct a -5 prescription. The first eye was handled by Dr. Gabric and turned out fine—but then they let some kid who's basically just an intern mess around with the second eye, and that one has been a total nightmare... because apparently, after the procedure, they put some kind of corrective lens in that eye?!?!?!
But hey, of course, before you go under the knife, you sign a contract stating you're ready for ANY AND ALL complications... in other words... if you end up going blind because of some idiot who's barely out of training, you can just take it up with the Good Lord.
Then there's this... they act like it's this "minor" little procedure... yet the discharge papers she got are absolutely legendary... and by that, I mean they don't say a single damn thing useful.
They told her verbally that they restored 60% of her vision in one eye... seriously... who does that? THIS SURGERY COSTS $2,000 $0.00 (for both eyes) and they're claiming 60% return... unbelievable... just unheard of!
When she asked the nurse working there if that meant 60% of her vision was back and that was that... the nurse just said she'd have to ask Gabric... because "how should I know," she's just staff.
The discharge paper looks like this:
ON JANUARY 12, 2008, AT THE MAYO CLINIC, THE FOLLOWING SURGICAL PROCEDURE WAS PERFORMED:
OPERATION: LASIK OU.

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PATIENT:
- UPON ARRIVAL HOME, TAKE ONE 2 MG OR 5 MG ASPIRIN TABLET
- SLEEP FOR A FEW HOURS
- IF YOU EXPERIENCE PAIN UPON WAKING, TAKE A VOLTAREN RAPID TABLET.
(THEY DON'T EVEN PROVIDE THE MEDS AT THE CLINIC—YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY THEM YOURSELF AFTER THE SURGERY... BECAUSE APPARENTLY $2,000 $0.00 ISN'T ENOUGH TO cover three lousy pills, so people are expected to pinch pennies on that too. But what's the big deal, right? Just pop over to the pharmacy and grab them... oh wait, NO... that's too much trouble... And they also recommended specific sunglasses... which, again, you have to buy yourself to save money... and even though ones from $50 $13 are fine... like I said... $6.75 isn't nearly enough to cover all this "extra gear.")
- EYE DROPS: USE TOBREX 5X DAILY (3 DAYS), EFFLUMIDEX 5X DAILY (10 TO 14 DAYS), AND SZSTANE 5-7X DAILY (30 DAYS)
- PATIENT REQUIRES MEDICAL LEAVE
Follow-up tomorrow
In case of emergency, contact Dr. Gabric at: xxxxxxxxxx

I mean, seriously, what kind of crappy discharge paper is that?!?!?!

After the surgery... you aren't allowed to go into bright light, you can't wash your hair, you can't go into dark rooms, etc., for at least 10 days; you can't lift anything heavier than a bag of chips for 7 days, etc... basically, anyone who thought this was a "quick procedure where I'll just head home and watch TV" is dead wrong... BUT OF COURSE THEY WON'T TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THE SURGERY... just so you don't back out at the last minute.

So please, THINK VERY CAREFULLY before deciding on this surgery... as for what happens next... I'll post an update in 10 days.

It's like this:
My wife got home from her surgery at Light Polyclinic about two hours ago. I have to tell you all right now—BE CAREFUL.
Here’s the deal... the surgery was on both eyes to correct a -5 prescription... the first eye was handled by Dr. Smith and turned out fine, but they let some kid mess around with the second eye, and we've had actual PROBLEMS with that one... apparently, after the surgery, they put some kind of corrective lens in that eye?!?!?!
But of course, before the procedure, you sign a contract stating you're prepared for ANY possible issues... in other words... if you end up losing your sight because of some idiot who's basically just an intern... you can cry to the heavens for all it matters.
Then... forget about them telling you it's a "minor" surgery... and the discharge papers she got? They're legendary... basically, there isn't a single useful detail in there.
They told her verbally that they restored 60% of the vision in one eye... now... who's the crazy one here...? THIS SURGERY COSTS $2,000 $0.00 (for both eyes) and they're giving back 60%... unbelievable... honestly unheard of?!
When she asked the nurse working there if that meant 60% vision is fully restored and that's it... the nurse just said she'd have to ask Smith... because "how should I know," she doesn't know...
The discharge papers look like this:
ON JANUARY 12, 2008, AT LIGHT POLYCLINIC, THE FOLLOWING SURGICAL PROCEDURE WAS PERFORMED:
OPERATION: LASIK OU.

RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PATIENT:
- UPON ARRIVAL HOME, TAKE A 2 MG OR 5 MG ASPIRIN TABLET
- SLEEP FOR A FEW HOURS
- IF YOU HAVE PAIN AFTER WAKING UP, TAKE A VOLTAREN RAPID TABLET.
(THE CLINIC DOESN'T PROVIDE THE TABLETS; YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY THEM YOURSELF AFTER THE SURGERY... BECAUSE IT'S APPARENTLY NOT WORTH IT TO INCLUDE THREE TABLETS IN THE $2,000 $0.00 FEE, SO PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO CUT CORNERS EVEN ON THAT. BUT WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL WITH DRIVING TO THE PHARMACY TO PICK THEM UP?? NOPE... APPARENTLY NOT... AND THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED SOME SUNGLASSES... WHICH YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY YOURSELF TO SAVE MONEY... AND THE ones FROM $13 ARE FINE... BUT LIKE I SAID... $6.75 ISN'T ENOUGH TO cover that "extra equipment")
- EYE DROPS: USE TOBREX 5X DAILY (3 DAYS), EFFLUMIDEX 5X DAILY (10 TO 14 DAYS), AND SZSTANE 5-7X DAILY (30 DAYS)
- PATIENT REQUIRES MEDICAL LEAVE
Follow-up tomorrow
If needed, contact Dr. Smith at: xxxxxxxxxx

PLEASE, WHAT KIND OF ABSOLUTE GARBAGE DISCHARGE PAPER IS THIS?!?!?!

After the surgery... you aren't allowed to go near bright lights, you can't wash your hair, you can't go into dark rooms, etc., for at least 10 days; you can't lift anything heavier than a bag of groceries for 7 days, etc... in other words, anyone who thought this was a surgery where "now I'll just head home and watch TV" is DEAD WRONG... BUT OF COURSE, THEY WON'T TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THE OPERATION... JUST SO YOU DON'T BACK OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE...

So, THINK VERY HARD BEFORE DOING THIS... as for what happens next... I'll update you in 10 days.