Posts by Elizabeth Smith6

Jonathan Clark12 said:Honestly, it's easiest just to be a lowlife👋

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you just gotta have that stench about you

I’m honestly done with Duje Draganja-prodana. With the way he’s been acting, he’s proven he doesn't deserve any of our time. I suggest we all just move on and stop giving that idiot the attention he's looking for.👍

Daniel Chavez14 said:🙂 🙂 🙂
The thing is, nobody was questioning Vasa's guts back then because it was his life on the line. But nowadays, some people act like Duje isn't just making a choice for himself, but somehow deciding things for all of us too.

armed with nothing but ego instead of logic 😉

Daniel Chavez14 said:Just because you can step into someone else's shoes doesn't mean you're actually walking their path. You just need to be standing somewhere in the same ballpark. Like, if money is your top priority because you're struggling to make ends meet, you can still relate to someone who isn't broke but happens to prioritize cash above everything else. At the end of the day, the common thread is that money is the main driver for both of you.

Exactly. That’s really the only thing they have in common. And honestly, why is money the driving force here? That’s the real issue. For the people backing him, it’s all about the cash because they haven't even figured out how to cover their own basic living expenses. As for Duje, he’s just a total jerk.

I'm gonna skip over the first part of your post since I'm actually in a good mood right now, otherwise you would've been in serious trouble. 👋

unnamed~ said:Alright, it's pretty funny, but quoting myself just to laugh at my own jokes feels a bit much...🙄

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That wasn't me, I swear🙏

but someone in the locker room definitely did it. Still playing detective to find out who. I sent Steven a text, but the jerk isn't replying. 🙂

Douglas Williams29 said:I have a feeling those guys on the West Coast are circling around just like they did when Karl was here, trying to talk Duje into something. Now he's actually considering it.
Personally, I'd say Duje made up his mind a long time ago. His politics belong to the GOP, but his heart stays with the Dodgers.
Go Dodgers, forget the Republicans.

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rapidbison42 👍

finally, I actually agree with you on something 😲

quietcobra30 said:Seriously, even I’m getting bored of this: what "big money" are we even talking about??!!
And all those things he supposedly did?? Please, as if anyone actually gives a damn about his soul.

You're being a nuisance to everyone, honestly. We've already talked about how much this whole money thing has been dragged out—probably a hundred times by now. 🙏

IGNORE.

Andrew Barnes29 said:We asked for capitalism, and now we’re getting exactly what we ordered.

The problem is, we wanted capitalism—not a bunch of soft, pampered athletes who don't have an ounce of dignity or any sense of patriotism left in them.

If Duje decides to go "all in" on this, he’s nothing more than a common street walker in my eyes, just selling himself off to the highest bidder.

Blandona said:Most of you "american" would have jumped ship after getting just one mediocre offer for a mid-range job.
It's easy to talk trash when it isn't your life on the line.

Out of this whole nonsense post, there's only one part actually worth talking about. Sure, maybe half of us "american" would have chased the money, just like generations did before us. But we're regular folks, and Duje was supposed to be an American icon—someone representing our best on the world stage. More importantly, he’s pulling in serious cash for it, so he isn't being bribed. It's just obvious his heritage means nothing to him. To him, it's just some word on a document. For people like us, it should be everything.

sara4 said:Seriously, take the hit on the expenses for such a sexist comment. 👎

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-Shevchenko- said:You really think Draganja swims because he loves the sport?

Nope. That’s exactly my point. It’s obvious he isn't doing this for the love of the game. And now, it's equally clear he isn't doing it out of any sense of patriotism, either. Seems like Duje is just a greedy capitalist who sees every opportunity as a way to stack cash, regardless of the cost—and by cost, I mean things you can't actually buy. He was raised by an American mother, yet he's selling himself out to those guys from the Middle East. There isn't a shred of pride left in him, personally or nationally. Honestly, I couldn't care less about someone like that.

Not to mention, he's sucked nearly two hundred thousand dollars out of the American taxpayer over the last year alone...🙄

Carlos said:So you're basically a total macho man then, huh?
😂 😂 😂
Go watch Rambo or Rocky 6 if you want that vibe.

I wouldn't call myself a "macho man"—just a regular guy who likes beer, women, and football. I get how that looks like being "macho" compared to someone as metrosexual as you, but please don't insult Stallone by comparing me to him. 🙂

skeptik said:Can you please explain where I actually said that?! 😂

Hold on a second... In your own post, you claimed that people can't wrap their heads around Duje's move because they've already got their existential crises sorted out and don't have to worry about them. Any halfway decent thinker would conclude from that that the only ones who *do* get what Duje is doing are the ones who still have those unresolved issues. And if we assume that those who understand him are actually standing in his shoes, then logically, Duje hasn't got his existential problems figured out either.

So, who's the crazy one here? You, for saying something and then immediately backtracking, or me, for even bothering to argue with this kind of logic? 🙏

copperpuma96 said:In swimming, you don't really have clubs like in other sports (cycling, soccer, basketball, etc.), so the national team is basically the main source of funding. Get it?

For crying out loud. Duje Draganja is monetizing his grind in ways you couldn't even imagine!!! Do you actually realize what it means to train 20-25 hours a week? Being in the pool twice a day, staring at tiles for 20 years... Sorry, but that doesn't happen overnight. He’s not some hack soccer player who just happens to be decent at crossing or free kicks; he’s a man who knows how to SWIM, and you aren't born with that.

Oh, sure, and I guess we need steak and greasy food because, hey, that's just what everyone else does?

Sorry buddy, but I honestly don't give a damn about his grueling training sessions. I know exactly what that looks like—a friend of mine is a pro swimmer and holds an American record. She does it because she loves the sport. She isn't quite good enough to make a living off it. But there are plenty of other ways to make money in life.

skeptik said:The thing is, when you're actually struggling just to make ends meet, it's a lot easier to see that survival matters more than some abstract sense of nationalism. People who prioritize "patriotism" over their own bank accounts usually fall into two camps: they either don't have real existential problems, or they’re too insulated to notice them because someone else is footing the bill so they can sit around fighting for "higher ideals."

Can someone please explain what kind of existential crisis Duje Draganja is actually going through? 😂

copperpuma96 said:What's even the difference?

From where I’m sitting, there's basically none. Honestly, I expected the gap to be more obvious given how much looser and less defined your perspective seems to be. I'd love to stay and go at it with the irrational crowd, but I've gotta head out. 👋

RuzanPrljavGlup said:Look, it's true he doesn't have to grind away at some corporate desk for the next 30 years, but it’s basically the same deal as those gold diggers who marry into money just to live large. People find it gross because you essentially traded your dignity for a paycheck.

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Here it is—short, sweet, and straight to the point. This is the core of the whole debate.

My question for everyone backing Duje Draganja's decision:

Would you be just as supportive if this was about him taking up citizenship from an enemy nation?

Kevin Allen10 said:Chani is a woman, though I doubt you'd even care 😉
An argument is an argument, regardless of who's throwing the punches. :rolleys:

Looks like you finally learned something. 👍

I’m just surprised it took me this long to realize she was female. Usually, women have these totally nonsensical, disconnected, ultra-liberal takes. Yeah, women. Or just guys who’ve gone soft. 🙏

copperpuma96 said:He isn't switching citizenship just for the money; he’s switching which "club" he plays for because of the money. Get it? Changing the paperwork is just a formality.

No, I don't get it. 🙄 He isn't changing clubs, he's changing his NATIONAL TEAM. That's a whole different ballgame. He's taking on Qatari citizenship. 🤮

copperpuma96 said:Why would he work for some corporation for the next 30 years if he DOESN'T HAVE TO, since he can cash in on what he's been doing for 20 years already? Like playing for an organization like ExxonMobil. While some kids were out studying and enjoying their youth, HE WAS WORKING. He took a lot of risks (even if it was unintentional) because one injury could have ended his entire career.

It's just human nature to want to build things and stay busy. Nobody gets rich overnight. And even if they did, he’d probably still be working some random job until the day he dies. Not because he has to, but because that's just how he is. Just because you're lazy doesn't mean the other 7 billion people on this planet are too. Stop whining.