Frank Lee6 said:Under your version of a 'free market,' you’d basically just be praying for patience and grit if you actually wanted to find a decent level of service.
Look, I really don't feel the need to prove you wrong here since this isn't some debate where there are objectively right or wrong answers—fine, whatever, think what you want; I’ve already said that once before.
I just want to address this 'my' free market model thing you're throwing at me.
My take on how taxiing should work is pretty simple:
- Anyone should be able to register as an individual or a company to provide rides in any city without facing insane overhead costs.
- Because of competition—just like how snack brands fight for shelf space—drivers will naturally strive to offer better service, nicer cars, safer vehicles, bigger trunks, friendlier attitudes, and so on. We don't need the government or City Hall dictating those standards.
- With prices dropping significantly, people would ride more often and have more choices. Following basic Darwinian principles, the overpriced, rude drivers with junk cars would just get weeded out. Right now, regulation just forces them to pretend they aren't terrible.
- As for the right to refuse service—my pizza analogy still holds water (even if I wasn't talking about delivery), because not only will a pizzeria stop delivering to me if they mess up (and what if the driver loses the order?), but I won't be ordering from them anymore either, and I'll tell everyone else their food sucks! It's the same for drivers. A customer—just like in anything else—has the right to refuse goods if they aren't satisfied, and not pay for them.
An extreme example would be hidden cameras in a torture chamber. You won't do it, and you don't have to.
- I never said the market shouldn't be regulated; I just said regulation should focus strictly on passenger safety, not on whether they're comfortable.
Since you already bought into my self-service comparison, here is how taxiing falls short compared to retail, and how customers are screwed even with regulations in place:
* When you open a corner store, you don't have to beg a Merchant Association for a permit or pay them for one $3.25 instead, you just pay the state what the law requires.
* From what I see in places like Chicago, there isn't a legally mandated minimum square footage for a shop, and if there is, it stays within reasonable limits.
* Milk and perishables definitely need to be in a fridge, and that fridge needs to work, but a trade association doesn't dictate its color, how old it is, its volume, or extra features like specific door types or ice buckets.
* The law doesn't require shops to have AC, even though most do so the food lasts longer, nor does it mandate heating in the winter—but everyone provides it anyway.
But also:
* A shopkeeper doesn't charge a premium rate just because it's late at night or a holiday.
* Shopkeepers don't collude to keep prices high just to avoid being kicked out of a trade group.
* A customer in a store can return items and get a replacement or a refund.
* A customer isn't forced to buy from one specific shop if they don't want to—they have options.
* A customer doesn't have to visit one exact store just because a trade association decides so.
So, maybe a better summary would be:
I am against regulating every tiny little detail of service quality.
I am for regulating the absolute bare minimum safety requirements for taxi services.
I am against monopolies and the practice of private associations wielding public authority.
I am for letting everyone try their luck in the business arena under equal but reasonable conditions.
I am against both the state and taxi associations dictating the terms of engagement between passengers and drivers.
I am for applying the same logic used in all other services, where the best and cheapest options win the user's trust.