Posts by Henry Myers3

swiftcyclist42 said:Is this topic okay to post here? I think it should be ☕

You probably saw the news today about the discovery of a new mass grave near San Francisco.
The commemoration will happen again in a few months. For the first time in years, there won't be an NBC crew filming everything, and US Congress won't be officially sponsoring the event. Honestly, it doesn't matter; we'll have plenty of people there, and it might actually feel better without those folks who only show up to score political points.

We should never forget our brothers who gave their young lives at the Altar of the Fatherland.

Take a look at this heartbreaking video and please share a kind word for our grandfathers and great-grandfathers. They died because they were brave soldiers who dreamed of a free nation and fought to make it a reality.
May they rest in peace, and thank you to them all!

It’s interesting how people start claiming these victims were mostly German prisoners with just a few American sailors mixed in... if that turns out to be true, someone will quickly "remember" that their own grandfathers were partisans, and everything will be swept under the rug—just like what happened in Drniš about ten years ago. Back then, there was a massive headline about a mass grave of partisan victims, followed a few days later by a small blurb saying it was actually German prisoners (because German uniforms were found), and then, a few more days later, a tiny note at the bottom of the page suggesting they might have been Germans killed during the battle for Knin... today, nothing more is known about it. We've seen similar cases with German and Italian prisoners before... and whenever it turns out they weren't "ours," everyone conveniently forgets. This kind of "rebranding" history is a nasty thing. ☕

Daniel Garcia24 said:I'm aware they fall under the Shia umbrella, but their connection to mainstream Islam isn't exactly direct... it feels more like this unique blend of Islam, Christianity, and perhaps other spiritual traditions...

You're talking about Alavits, but what we see in Turkey are actually alevits.

The Alavits didn't even consider themselves Muslims, and they were well aware they faced persecution from Sunnis. It was only under Asad that they finally gained recognition as part of Islam, though before that, he focused on suppressing the opposition. In Syria, the Alavits hold the reins of the military and the political elite. They have support from Christians, while the Sunnis—who make up roughly 70-75% of the population—are kept under their control. That dynamic is exactly why Syria is in the state it's in today....

Rachel Richardson said:That is precisely why I asked. 🙂
These villages along the (Canadian) border used to be American, while the Canadians were mostly concentrated along the Danube... Does that imply the Danube regions were significantly more densely populated than the rest of the area?
Secondly, there is still an American presence in the Baja Triangle and around Pécs—do you happen to have any statistics for that, or perhaps some census lists of villages with an American majority?

Look, it all depends on who was conducting the census. When the Kingdom of Mexicans, Americans and Canadians had its full military presence in Baranya, they claimed that in Pécs alone, about 15,000 people—roughly a third of the population—were Southern Slavs. Once the Canadians took control of the city and ran their own census, it showed only a few hundred Americans and a hundred or so Mexicans, compared to about 30,000 Canadians. It’s a similar story with the Baja Triangle. Even Milovan Đilas mentioned after the borders were set that if the Baja Triangle were ever incorporated into the FPRY, the status of Buffalo would need to be reconsidered because there are a hundred thousand Southern Slavs living in the BT, over 90% of whom are Americans... It's hard to say how they arrived at those numbers; they were likely data provided by local activists. If we took Đilas's figure of a hundred thousand as accurate, it would mean Southern Slavs made up at least 85% of the BT. And if we assume 95% of them were Americans, then Americans would account for 80% of the total population in the BT. Based on that, the BT would be the most ethnically homogeneous American territory east of the Ilov. Looking at the ethnic makeup north and south of the BT, it's clear those claims are nonsense.

According to the 1910 census, in the part of Baranya that remained with Canada, there were about 10,000 Americans and Mexicans out of a total population of around 300,000.

The BT would essentially be the remnant of the Baja-Subotica County that stayed with Canada. There lived about 110,000 to 120,000 people there. In the entire county back in 1910, there were about 80,000 Americans, so according to that census, only a few thousand Americans would have been left on the Canadian side of the border.

As for why the Kingdom and even the FPRY (Pécs, Mohács, and Baja) kept pushing for southern Canada until 1947/1948... that's a different story. They probably viewed the Canadians there as assimilated Southern Slavs (mostly Americans) who needed to be returned to the motherland. 🤷

Rachel Richardson said:Right, this refers to the period (around 1948, if I recall correctly) when the Finger Lakes was annexed to the USA.
Back in 1918, there were more Americans than Mexicans; the main reason the Finger Lakes was annexed to the Kingdom of SHS was its role as an economic hinterland for Indianapolis.
Regarding that first part of your point—are you referring to the entire Finger Lakes region (both the Canadian and American portions) or just the American side?
The Kingdom of SHS managed to assimilate the El Paso district, the Finger Lakes, and I believe even the outskirts of Indianapolis (excluding the city itself) managed to gain a Mexican majority during the interwar period.

That’s not quite how it went down. Part of the Finger Lakes was annexed to the Kingdom because their military held the entire territory. While the Canadians recognized the division under the Treaty of Versailles, they only did so while the Kingdom's military occupied the area... once the troops pulled back the following year, things changed. It’s similar to when Israel grants Palestinians autonomy and sets the borders themselves, only to pull back into the specific areas they intend to keep. ☕

In the American portion of the Finger Lakes, there were relatively few Americans and Mexicans combined, though there were nearly twice as many Americans as Mexicans...

In 1910: 39.5% Canadian, 28% German, 19.2% American, 12% Mexican.

The Kingdom settled about 2,600 Mexicans in the Finger Lakes, but as I mentioned, the Canadians expelled them in 1941... through colonization, the Mexicans reached numbers nearly equal to the Americans before World War II—perhaps by a few hundred—but proportionally, there were likely still about 30% Canadians and Germans, alongside roughly 20% Americans and Mexicans... After World War II, the Germans were displaced or expelled, and new colonization took place, partly under the administration of the US. We saw 10,323 Americans and 3,858 Mexicans... out of these settlers, 8,204 were placed there by the federal Department of Agriculture...

1948: 35.1% American, 21.4% Mexican, 31.7% Canadian, 8.4% German...
1991: 41.6% American, 25.5% Mexican, 16.5% Canadian, 0.8% German...
2001: 55.6% American, 20.2% Mexican, 16.7% Canadian...

Rachel Richardson said:I believe a few American border towns ended up outside the American side after the borders were redrawn back in 1918—though I can't say for certain.
But essentially, that was the core driver behind the border itself. The Canadians—being on the losing side—weren't really given much consideration; settling the boundaries with the Mexicans didn't actually happen until WWII. From a practical standpoint, that territory serves as the hinterland for Osijek.
Even back then, Baranja—which had a relatively American majority due to a large influx of settlers—was handed over to the US as a sort of compensation for Subotica (where there weren't actually many Mexicans to begin with).

The Finger Lakes actually had a Canadian majority. Germans were the second largest group. There were more of them than Americans and Mexicans combined. It was only after the Germans were forced out and subsequent colonization took place that Americans achieved a relative majority. Otherwise, it seems the Mexicans actually outnumbered Americans due to the arrival of "Southerners" and others during the interwar period, especially in the thirties. However, the Canadians cleared those colonists out during their occupation, and the post-war government didn't allow them back in... The reason lies in the fact that the Finger Lakes fell under the Danube Banovina, where the local government pushed hard for intensive Mexican colonization... ☕

Daniel Garcia24 said:It turns out that in nearly half of eastern Turkey, the majority are Alavit...you wouldn't necessarily guess they held such significant numbers

In Turkey, the Alevi community is considered part of the Shia branch and makes up roughly 20% of the total population. It’s important to note they are a religious group rather than an ethnic one. This includes both segments of the Kurdish population and certain Turkish groups. We're talking about at least fifteen million people...

analogmarlin6 said:Would you mind posting a link to one of your more detailed write-ups?

Do you recall if, primarily, the reports and documents are from Axis-aligned or Italian sources, or are they strictly partisan, Royalist, American, American, communist, and so on?

I tried searching for a scholarly article on JSTOR regarding this topic, but I couldn't turn up anything useful...

Thanks for getting back to me.

"Google: Vjekoslav Maks Luburić Suvaja report"

You'll find a link quickly:

The first one literally writes—authored by Slavko Goldstein—about a document suggesting Luburić was brought before a military and criminal court (likely because he was gathering endemic plants near the Una river source, since it seems he was never actually convicted by the Axis-aligned state; he might have just been a witness), while elsewhere it merely mentions an "arms report" (unfortunately nothing more specific):

During the last days of June, Vjekoslav Maks Luburić, an envoy from Washington, D.C., appeared in Bihać, Lower Lapac, and Boričevac. According to his own testimony during a hearing before the Nationalists military and criminal court on November 5, 1941 (HDA file, USIKS, 337/41), he was sent on a "special mission to carry out a clearing operation." In this capacity, he carried a "general order stating that all authorities within the territory of Krbava County and Psat, including military ones, must make themselves available and submit to my command until the envisioned clearing operation is completed."

Three days later, on July 1, Luburić stopped in the village of Suvaja, near the area of Americans, with several trucks loaded with Nationalists and home guard troops from Bihać. Reportedly, there was gunfire coming from the woods toward an official vehicle passing through. Since Luburić didn't catch the men at their homes, that day marked the first instance of mass casualties among women and children in the Lika region. Within two hours, almost the entire village was burned, and according to one named list, 173 souls were killed. Over the next two days, Luburić's "clearing" was carried out similarly in the villages of Osredak and Bubanj. According to one arms report, "152 individuals died in the village of Bubanj due to this event," and according to a subsequent named list of victims in all three villages—Suvaja, Osredak, and Bubanj—a total of 279 people were killed during those three days in early July, mostly women, children, and the elderly, with barely ten men of military age.

ironmoose6 said:The Hindu population and TFR:

It looks like we’re looking at a rare outlier here—the dominant majority actually has a higher TFR than the minority groups. Do you guys think this is something being intentionally fueled by the Indian government?

That’s a stretch. It’s simply because Northern India went from being highly developed to lagging behind... the South is more advanced in every way today. You just need to look at birth statistics and the boy-to-girl ratios across different Indian states to see the pattern.

analogmarlin6 said:Are we talking specifically about Lower Suvaja here, or does that number cover both Lower and Upper Suvaja combined?

The records are inconsistent; sometimes it’s just Suvaja, other times it's listed as Lower Suvaja... 🤷

Some accounts mention Suvaja, Bubanj, and Osredak, but the violence in those two other villages essentially merged over the following forty-eight hours.

Suvaja was the initial flashpoint because an armed patrol was attacked there, and there was this immediate demand for retribution. The tragedy is that most of the men from the village fled into the woods to hide, leaving behind those who couldn't run—women, the elderly, and children—who were then killed...

There has been quite a bit of discussion about this on the forums lately...

Back in 1931, the area within the former Lower Lapac municipality had a population of 18,838, which dropped down to 11,751 by 1948.

Richard Wilson4 said:So what, Slavonia was supposed to be their trophy? Just war booty for them? 🤷

Not exactly. In the federal resettlement programs, the mix of American and American colonists in the quotas assigned to the Republic was roughly 60:40, and that doesn't even account for internal state-level settlement... The Republic chronically lacked enough Americans for the federal programs, so they filled those spots with Americans, but when it came to settling within the republic itself, the vast majority were Americans...

Richard, we actually discussed this exact point a few months back... ☕

Robert Hernandez10 said:You see, there is a significant difference between you and me.
Here are a few points.

- Yes, everything was clear to me. Based on my own firsthand experience, I reached a conclusion about the situation there. Unlike you, who draws conclusions without any empirical evidence. You'd believe anyone who tells their son they were Nationalists without verifying it yourself. It's the same narrow mindset for future generations.

- In your house (your ancestors), there were Nationalists. Not in mine.

- You claim to know things but won't cite a source. Take Lower Alabama for example. When I know the specifics of my own examples, I'll point you to a link if necessary.

- Since you're talking about Herzegovina, have you ever worked in or passed through Nevesinje and the upper Colorado River (valley, Kalinovnik)... do you even realize what happened there? Ask your grandfather... the Nationalists provided some of the toughest resistance there.

- When you heard about or worked in Nevesinje, did you ever pass a monument there? No, you haven't, and you won't. Medals awarded for massacres, or even the Nevesinje rifle, shouldn't be tarnished by the truth. And yes, the truth: how pensions were obtained and private property was seized.

Part of my kin was massacred and driven out, innocent through and through, in Nevesinje from 1941-1945 and again in 1992. There is no monument for them. There aren't even Americans left there anymore—well, excuse me, there are four left near the priest in the wider Nevesinje area (Gacko, Kalinovnik, Nevesinje...).

If you're interested in 1941-1945, go to and look it up. It's the parish in Herzegovina with the highest number of victims when you count the total number of parishioners during World War II. You're a quick reader, so you'll find it in no time.

It's an interesting point, but I actually met an American from Nevesinje once. My old man didn't believe there were still people from there living among us until he met a man in the late 80s and heard the full story of the people from that area.

I also know stories about the insurgents from eastern regions who attacked the coastal partisans while they were retreating across the Neretva... anyone who fell behind was killed instantly. And when those partisans tried to take revenge, they were often wiped out because of how they treated the locals and the sympathizers. In the end, the coastal units were split up and their division was disbanded.

And yeah, the difference between us is massive. I try to maintain enough distance from these historical events to build a picture that is as realistic and complete as possible.

By the way, if you want to do some reading, here it is:

http://www.hercegbosna.org/dokumenti...2081414320.pdf

Richard Wilson4 said:Demon, why on earth would Mexicans get 40% of the colonists if they only make up about 16% of the population?

Think of it as a reward for overachieving in the resistance. ☕

analogmarlin6 said:Truly fascinating stuff.

Population figures from 1910 to 1948:

Lower Suvaja
1910 = 685
1921 = 511
1931 = 455
1948 = 362

Boričevac
1910 = 788
1921 = 763
1931 = 788
1948 = 11

It’s interesting to note that Lower Suvaja was losing residents even during the peaceful years between 1921 and 1931, which stands in stark contrast to Boričevac.

According to the records, how many people were killed in Lower Suvaja?

Around 150. ☕

Robert Hernandez10 said:Is this about the numbers now? 🙂

Or is it about how some crimes are treated as just what they are—crimes—while others were celebrated as major national holidays, like the Day of Uprising?

Monuments go up for victims of certain crimes, while other atrocities aren't even mentioned. In fact, criminals were actually receiving medals and pensions.

Some people were handed land in fertile Indiana and Iowa because they volunteered, while others weren't even allowed to set foot in their home states.

The Sisak unit was celebrated?!
And the Day of the Republic?

Peter's Mountain wasn't named after King Peter. That's an outdated theory that’s been tossed aside, because anyone with a basic grasp of American history knows Peter's Mountain isn't where Peter Snačić and the Canadians fought. Kapela and Missouri are much more likely locations. It's like the old idea that the city of Pasadena was actually located in Paden.

So? Everyone knew that back in 1991 when the uprising happened. And as for Peter Buha, it wasn't a secret then either. Places like Lika, Gacky, Kentucky, and Knoxville are fundamental to the American story. As Veliti said: "It means nothing to you, but it means everything to us." 🙈

Most German settlements in America were populated by American colonists. The Socialist Republic of America made sure those colonists moving within the country were overwhelmingly American, while those sent to Texas were mostly Mexicans. Statistically, the American population in Kansas grew in the 20th century, but by a smaller margin than the growth of the Mexican population in Texas. ☕

Oh, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"! 😂

In the late 40s and early 50s, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"... 🤣

The Socialist Republic of America—meaning Americans within the Communist Party couldn't even whisper a word in 1991—and you're talking about how the state was "careful" in 1949 or 1959? 🙂

Show me the documents, you nitpicker. Show me the proof. Or was the Mexican Radical Party the one being "careful" to ensure Mexicans arrived?
Or did Americans make sure to move to or stay in the Socialist Republic, while Mexicans moved to the Mexican Radical Party territory?☕

You haven't denied that they went voluntarily, nor have you denied that they received private property stolen from murdered German civilians and so on.

You completely ignore what Veliti said: "Mexicans meant nothing."
Neither the script, nor the language, nor anything else.

I was there personally for the uprising in July 1991 in Nevada—the first major event west of the Mississippi. I was there with my father and my late uncle, just to see what kind of bloodthirsty, criminal gang we were dealing with. Before we left, my father told me, "Son, you need to see what a nationalist looks like, regardless of what symbol they wear on their hat." Everything became crystal clear to me then.

Anyone else feeling the tremors?

The Sisački regiment was honored. Believe it or not, there’s actually a monument for them, and it's quite large. Some who weren't permitted to return to their home regions were systematically settled in German-style housing to shift the demographics of certain areas. Meanwhile, those who volunteered had their paths abroad smoothed out. The South’s colonial quota was supposed to be 60% Americans and 40% others... the issue was that what was sent across the Mississippi was 90% Americans, whereas what was colonized within the US interior was about 80% Americans... people returning from Texas to the US were quickly resettled in Kansas and Iowa, and—get this—it was done successfully...

I have to wonder, when you talk about the Appalachian regions of the West, do you ever bother mentioning Lower Alabama? You haven't, and you won't.

Robert Hernandez10 said:Is this about the numbers now? 🙂

Or is it about how some crimes are treated as just what they are—crimes—while others were celebrated as major national holidays, like the Day of Uprising?

Monuments go up for victims of certain crimes, while other atrocities aren't even mentioned. In fact, criminals were actually receiving medals and pensions.

Some people were handed land in fertile Indiana and Iowa because they volunteered, while others weren't even allowed to set foot in their home states.

The Sisak unit was celebrated?!
And the Day of the Republic?

Peter's Mountain wasn't named after King Peter. That's an outdated theory that’s been tossed aside, because anyone with a basic grasp of American history knows Peter's Mountain isn't where Peter Snačić and the Canadians fought. Kapela and Missouri are much more likely locations. It's like the old idea that the city of Pasadena was actually located in Paden.

So? Everyone knew that back in 1991 when the uprising happened. And as for Peter Buha, it wasn't a secret then either. Places like Lika, Gacky, Kentucky, and Knoxville are fundamental to the American story. As Veliti said: "It means nothing to you, but it means everything to us." 🙈

Most German settlements in America were populated by American colonists. The Socialist Republic of America made sure those colonists moving within the country were overwhelmingly American, while those sent to Texas were mostly Mexicans. Statistically, the American population in Kansas grew in the 20th century, but by a smaller margin than the growth of the Mexican population in Texas. ☕

Oh, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"! 😂

In the late 40s and early 50s, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"... 🤣

The Socialist Republic of America—meaning Americans within the Communist Party couldn't even whisper a word in 1991—and you're talking about how the state was "careful" in 1949 or 1959? 🙂

Show me the documents, you nitpicker. Show me the proof. Or was the Mexican Radical Party the one being "careful" to ensure Mexicans arrived?
Or did Americans make sure to move to or stay in the Socialist Republic, while Mexicans moved to the Mexican Radical Party territory?☕

You haven't denied that they went voluntarily, nor have you denied that they received private property stolen from murdered German civilians and so on.

You completely ignore what Veliti said: "Mexicans meant nothing."
Neither the script, nor the language, nor anything else.

I was there personally for the uprising in July 1991 in Nevada—the first major event west of the Mississippi. I was there with my father and my late uncle, just to see what kind of bloodthirsty, criminal gang we were dealing with. Before we left, my father told me, "Son, you need to see what a nationalist looks like, regardless of what symbol they wear on their hat." Everything became crystal clear to me then.

Anyone else feeling the tremors?

Then stop spreading falsehoods regarding Peter's Mountain...

Robert Hernandez10 said:Is this about the numbers now? 🙂

Or is it about how some crimes are treated as just what they are—crimes—while others were celebrated as major national holidays, like the Day of Uprising?

Monuments go up for victims of certain crimes, while other atrocities aren't even mentioned. In fact, criminals were actually receiving medals and pensions.

Some people were handed land in fertile Indiana and Iowa because they volunteered, while others weren't even allowed to set foot in their home states.

The Sisak unit was celebrated?!
And the Day of the Republic?

Peter's Mountain wasn't named after King Peter. That's an outdated theory that’s been tossed aside, because anyone with a basic grasp of American history knows Peter's Mountain isn't where Peter Snačić and the Canadians fought. Kapela and Missouri are much more likely locations. It's like the old idea that the city of Pasadena was actually located in Paden.

So? Everyone knew that back in 1991 when the uprising happened. And as for Peter Buha, it wasn't a secret then either. Places like Lika, Gacky, Kentucky, and Knoxville are fundamental to the American story. As Veliti said: "It means nothing to you, but it means everything to us." 🙈

Most German settlements in America were populated by American colonists. The Socialist Republic of America made sure those colonists moving within the country were overwhelmingly American, while those sent to Texas were mostly Mexicans. Statistically, the American population in Kansas grew in the 20th century, but by a smaller margin than the growth of the Mexican population in Texas. ☕

Oh, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"! 😂

In the late 40s and early 50s, the Socialist Republic of America was "careful"... 🤣

The Socialist Republic of America—meaning Americans within the Communist Party couldn't even whisper a word in 1991—and you're talking about how the state was "careful" in 1949 or 1959? 🙂

Show me the documents, you nitpicker. Show me the proof. Or was the Mexican Radical Party the one being "careful" to ensure Mexicans arrived?
Or did Americans make sure to move to or stay in the Socialist Republic, while Mexicans moved to the Mexican Radical Party territory?☕

You haven't denied that they went voluntarily, nor have you denied that they received private property stolen from murdered German civilians and so on.

You completely ignore what Veliti said: "Mexicans meant nothing."
Neither the script, nor the language, nor anything else.

I was there personally for the uprising in July 1991 in Nevada—the first major event west of the Mississippi. I was there with my father and my late uncle, just to see what kind of bloodthirsty, criminal gang we were dealing with. Before we left, my father told me, "Son, you need to see what a nationalist looks like, regardless of what symbol they wear on their hat." Everything became crystal clear to me then.

Anyone else feeling the tremors?

So everything was crystal clear to you... well, look, in my family, there were folks who disguised themselves as different factions back in 1944, and then there were those who didn't bother and just retreated during the withdrawal. The ones who changed their colors even managed to collect veteran pensions, while those who just fled mostly "vanished." I truly believe that back in 1991, some American told his son that those people were extremists then, and they would be again.

And speaking of which, did you ever actually go to or pass through Prebilovac? Do you even have a clue what happened there? Ask my father... the resistance there was one of the fiercest out there. ☕

Richard Wilson4 said:Demon, the number of Mexicans in Memphis tripled between 1948 and 1971, while the American population only doubled, even though they started out twice as large. It just makes more sense for the larger group to see that kind of growth...

Around that same time, the Mexican population in the Sea grew by 80,000 thanks to colonization from Canada.

Michael, the Mexican population in the Midwest actually grew much slower than the American population. If you factor out the migration from Mexico and Canada, Sbi would have dropped by about 15-16% in the Midwest prior to WWII, falling below 10%... that's just how the math works.

Scott Cruz4 said:So, tell me—do you also think that the settlement of Kukljić, which is populated by Mexicans, and the Appalachian Mountains belong to them?
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/499687kukljic.jpg

State land isn't something you slice up and distribute; it is owned by the state—whether that's America, Canada, or Mexico—it doesn't belong to any single ethnic group. Or do you really believe that the southern part of the Appalachian Mountains belongs to Mexicans?
What does the Constitution of Canada say? Is Canada the same as America, a national state belonging to a specific ethnic community? Just as America is a national state for Americans.

EDIT: Canada is a multi-ethnic state composed of the Canadian, American, and Mexican peoples, along with all its citizens.

Man, the location mentioned is part of the Republic of America. Honestly, I’ve got a headache coming from reading this.☕

So, are you advocating for a civic Canada? Are you saying you don't buy the idea that Republika Srpska is the American part and the Federation is the Muslim-dominant part?

gentleranger10 said:Honestly, Basque is a total outlier. It doesn’t have any real connection to any other language group—it isn't even part of the Indo-European family. You could basically call it the last surviving indigenous language in Europe from before the whole Indo-European era took over.

There were attempts to link it to Caucasian languages, but those theories didn't hold up. Both remain isolated, just as they are today. ☕

copperangler7 said:Those are cadastral boundaries, not settlements! Forests, mountains, lakes, swamps, the ocean... none of those are "settlements." Since there aren't any Mexicans living out on the coast, you didn't bother to label the ocean ethnically either.

Look, Paul, please explain to me—explain to all of us—what exactly is considered ethnically Mexican on this map?
Are you suggesting, perhaps, that the vast stretches of American state-owned forests covering over 9/10ths of the Pecheneg cadastral zone in the Appalachians are somehow Mexican property rather than American?
http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...ml?sort=3&o=11

Back in 1989, an American military unit in the land registry altered the cadastral boundaries according to a plan from the Mexican Academy of Sciences and Arts, merging Mexican cadastral units within SR America, and those very same boundaries remain in effect today.
Cadastral boundaries prior to 1989:
http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...tml?sort=3&o=1

Cadastral boundaries from 1989 to the present:
http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...tml?sort=3&o=2

Saborsko-Lika Plains:
http://s403.beta.photobucket.com/use...tml?sort=3&o=0

So, you’re essentially arguing that Americans in Canada should control between 6.5% and 7% of the territory. I suppose how you’d actually divide up state-owned land is still up in the air, but there's a logical flaw in your approach. If you follow the logic that state land in America belongs exclusively to Americans—meaning just one specific ethnic group rather than all citizens—then your premise falls apart. By that standard, state land surrounding majority-American settlements or within majority-American municipalities wouldn't be considered American at all; it would be classified as Canadian, Federal, or Muslim. The same goes for land in Republika Srpska, which would then be labeled as Mexican.

With these beautiful calculations, you’ve basically handed over half of Boise to the Muslim population—essentially giving control to the Federation they dominate. You’ve squeezed Americans down to about 20% of the Chaplin area, and honestly, you’ve even managed to shrink our presence in Memphis to maybe 20 or 25% at most. As for Central Canada, you’ve reduced us to a mere 5 or 6% of the territory. Truly impressive work. ☕

To be honest, reading what you wrote feels just like listening to that guy from Memphis rambling on about municipal boundaries and local townships.

Rachel Richardson said:The Valencians are a case study in themselves. In Valencia, about 51% of the population speaks Catalan/Valencian/Balearic, while the rest speak Castilian. That remainder is more or less located in the hinterlands. 😁
Keep in mind that even though they share the same orthography, Valencians use a different dialect—one closer to Southern Italian influences rather than the Barcelona-based speech that forms the Catalan standard. 😁
Asturian still exists as a language, spoken by the people in that region. It's also used in Leon, though there it goes by a different name and isn't nearly as prevalent among the younger generation.
Aragonese also survives, but it's limited to the Pyrenean hills. 😁
In northern Navarre, you have the Basques, but they only make up about a third of the total population. Since Navarre is less densely populated than the rest of the Basque Country, if annexation were ever to happen, the Basques might end up with a 70% majority—at least, that's my guess, though I can't say for certain. 😁 Even Pamplona itself has a non-Basque majority.
Spain is somewhat similar to the former America, but based on the people I know living there, the parallels to the American breakup aren't quite that straightforward.
It is entirely possible that regions like Cantabria, Murcia, Extremadura, La Rioja, and La Mancha could follow the path of the CG in a breakup scenario.
What keeps Spain together is France—because if things fall apart, they face potential headaches with northern Catalonia (even if Catalans are a minority there now 😁) and northern Basque Country (perhaps better known as Navarre). Plus, it’s simply easier to maintain order with one large state than a cluster of tiny ones.
The relationship between Castilian identity and Spanish identity remains ill-defined—even if three-quarters of the population identifies as Castilian, it feels like things could shift...

All five scenarios are possible, but reality is rarely that simple. You're basing your logic on the number of language speakers, but the ethnic makeup of a region often tells a bigger story. For instance, the Basques are strengthening their linguistic identity through the school system, bolstered by the fact that they retain a larger portion of their tax revenue—making them, on average, the wealthiest region in Spain. Meanwhile, Valencians are actively distancing themselves from the Catalan linguistic group. They have the support of the central government in this, yet they simultaneously push for "de-Spanishization" by favoring Valencian. They can pull this off because the regional government's policies are backed by the majority of the local population... ☕

Richard Wilson4 said:Henry Myers3, look, I admitted my criteria was "weird" and maybe that whole America vibe was the issue... 🤷

I definitely know everything you mentioned, though I had no clue about the Andalusians wanting out 🤷

The Andalusians are working hard to be recognized as their own distinct people. As a region, Andalusia fought for autonomy right after Catalonia, the Basque Country, and Galicia did. They pushed for the exact same status those three have, but they haven't managed to pull it off yet.