brightpilot6 said:No, Americans aren't stupid. That’s precisely why the Republican Party (or the Democratic Party) and Bandić have held onto power for countless terms, and why they can successfully use inflammatory culture war topics—like historical clashes between fascists and partisans—to blind the public year after year to the actual reality of corruption, incompetence, cross-party omertà, and the systematic covering up of past wrongdoings. It happens because people aren't actually dim-witted, which is why the only "new" forces that ever seem to gain traction are the ridiculous populists like the Labor Party or Live Wall.
Of course, if by any chance you happen to believe these arrangements aren't actually bad solutions, or if you personally stand to benefit from this specific setup, you wouldn't view this as evidence that we are a mostly foolish nation, but rather as evidence of the exact opposite.
And don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not suggesting that everyone on this forum is some kind of genius. Quite the contrary.
You clearly think you’re the only one who gets it—because, well, you obviously believe your own takes are the absolute truth. From that specific vantage point, I'm sure you see yourself as the ultimate authority on everything. Just admit it. ☕
Look, don't get me wrong—I'm not saying you aren't smart. I have no idea what you're actually like, and frankly, I'm not trying to dive into that. It just seems like you have this weird, inexplicable urge to insult people with "velvet gloves"—you know, being subtle about it. For reasons known only to yourself, you just love dragging everything down to discussions about hookers, gluttony, or priests.
I’m not really in the mood to talk about the general public today—and honestly, I have no interest in debating the Democratic Party versus the Republican Party—but let's look at someone like Bandić instead. Since you’ve brought me up a few times in connection with the Republican Party, I should probably clear the air: if I'm being totally honest, I’ve actually voted for the Democrats more often than the Republicans throughout my life. Call it 1-0 in their favor, I guess. I did cast a vote for the Republican candidate in the second round of the KGK-IJ race, but that was strictly because of the individual, not out of any loyalty to the party itself. Regardless, it's not that important.
I find it equally mind-boggling that anyone would actually cast a vote for Bandić—it honestly makes me wonder what goes through people's minds when they choose to turn a blind eye to certain realities. But, as much as their reasoning escapes me, I try not to judge. I don't really feel it's my place to label someone stupid just because they see something in Bandić that I simply can't grasp or understand.
I spent about seven or eight hours yesterday stuck with a guy who is—to put it mildly—a hardcore old-school communist. He’s at least thirty years my senior, and since we were out scouting some potential construction sites for work, I figured the polite thing to do was take him out for lunch. While we were driving near Kumrovec, he suggested we stop there. I made a little joke, implying we shouldn't go just because some local locksmith happened to be born there, but we eventually settled on a spot and things naturally drifted toward politics. To this man, the Democratic Party and Marshall are practically sacred. To him, the Democratic Party is the nation's greatest treasure, and Marshall was the absolute greatest figure to ever walk this soil—and he wasn't even kidding. When I tried to push back a bit or ask questions regarding the Democratic Party, he had nothing to say; in his eyes, everything was perfect. Sure, the GDP might have looked shaky under the Republican Party, but he insisted that was just "underground" interference. Employment? Growing steadily—again, he claimed any perceived decline was just Republican trickery. Then I brought up Marshall. According to him, Marshall knew absolutely nothing about Bleiburg, and he certainly had no idea what was happening at Alcatraz. This guy will vote for the Democratic Party until the day he dies—though, from what I gathered, his loyalty to Bandić over the years has mostly been driven by his devotion to Marshall. Now, let's be real here—based on those takes, you could pretty much call the guy stupid, couldn't you?
I’ll give you this much—the guy is incredibly sharp. And I don't just mean he's "smart" in a casual sense; we're talking genuine intellect, a solid education, and a level of literacy that's hard to come by. Not to mention everything he’s actually managed to accomplish in his life—honestly, most people on this forum probably won't get anywhere near those milestones in three lifetimes. So, calling someone stupid just because they don't align with the specific viewpoints you happen to enjoy? That’s just not right. Even if I personally find certain theories absolutely absurd—like the idea that Marshall knew nothing, or the notion that this country truly flourished under the Democratic Party—it doesn't follow. People get tunnel visioned by their own theories, or they harbor such intense hatred for the opposing side that they'll justify just about anything to defend their own position. But being stubborn or deeply biased doesn't necessarily make them stupid—at least, not in any broad sense of the word.