Posts by William Nelson4

Eric Morgan54 said:What can parents actually do when they’ve gathered a massive pile of signatures against this CN stuff via petition, but the principal just goes ahead and signs the school up for the project anyway? She’s basically treating our signatures like they don't even exist...

To make matters worse, the PTA wasn't even told there was a discussion happening—even though we all know the president shouldn't be making these calls solo, which is totally out of line here—so the parents' voices are being completely sidelined.

Plus, according to the Education Act, Article 135, Section 3, parents have to give consent for kids to take part in these types of programs (which is exactly where CN falls)... But when you ask what happens to the kids whose parents refuse to sign off? Total radio silence. No one knows!

I get that just filing a complaint doesn't guarantee the Department of Education will actually listen, but honestly... I highly doubt it.

Nothing's gonna happen... nothing. It won't stay on the A2 level, period. They don't even have to show up for lunch if they don't want to. I mean, who can legally force them to sit through extra sessions and be forced to "learn" at school?
In the end, it always comes down to whatever the parent decides. Teachers will just log the hours for A2, bill for them, kids stay home, Fox gets to claim they pulled off the reform, and the wolves are fed.
Or, like some principal mentioned to a user on here once: "We'll just deal with it as we go."

urbantinker8 said:Well, I brought up students with disabilities because they exist in every single classroom, and I noticed that fuchsic didn't even bother to account for them in his projections.
In my view, there isn't any number of teachers that would allow someone to effectively teach an A2 course in a standard classroom containing 15 average students, 3 or 4 advanced ones, and maybe 5 or 6 who are struggling. There just isn't.
That seems to be what we've been talking about this whole time.

Facts.
A2 is gonna end up being exactly what one lady on here described: I hand out the worksheets, some extra credit, some homework, some prep work... while I'm stuck drowning in paperwork, prepping for tomorrow, and grading tests.

And what about all the stuff like PTA meetings, school board stuff, or training sessions? Is anyone actually going to pay us overtime for that? Everything is just so incredibly vague right now.

I gotta wonder, where the hell are the unions in all this?

Regarding point number one, they seriously need to address the whole classroom teacher issue. AT&T is basically pushing those roles onto other staff members while only offering a measly 2.5% bump to the base pay.?!
That’s easily the absolute worst part of being a teacher. In most other places, it doesn't even work like this—the counselors handle all the parent communication, and administrators take care of the paperwork side of things.

Thank God I don't work in an elementary school. My kid's heading off to college soon anyway, but man, I just can't stand watching this total mess they're cooking up without even asking the people actually affected by it.

Personally, I think AT&T should only be for grades 1 through 4, and even then, only for the teachers who actually want it and need it.
The only decent thing about this whole situation seems to be the lunch program. Though, I guess that only works if the food is actually good and free for everyone.

Jose Wells3 said:I’d really love to see everyone weigh in on the public comment period. There are some seriously influential voices out there—why not take advantage of the chance to make yours heard where it actually counts?

Just my two cents. Honestly, obsessing over this forum feels like such a massive waste of energy. Maybe—and I'm just guessing here—they might actually listen if they see thousands of comments flooding in through the proper channels.

So the plan is to roll out computer science in every elementary school across the country starting in 2027, right?

I guess it's just way easier for them to claim they'll just pack 35 kids into every classroom and deal with fewer classrooms overall, rather than actually doing the work to build or expand school buildings.

driftingtinker said:I mean, Los Angeles County was already pretty much ahead of the curve by moving everything online way back when.

Nah, it wasn't.

nimbleranger17 said:And let's be honest, I don't expect urbantinker8 to come trekking out to some sick student's house; that's hardly in her job description, given she isn't exactly known for her deep concern for the youth or their bright futures...

Look, she will if the principal tells her to, but for now, thank God and the common sense of the CDC, that rule only applies to super rare cases. It definitely DOES NOT apply to students who tested positive for COVID-19. Those kids are in ISOLATION. No exceptions. They just have to wait for the fall testing session.
It sucks, but life sucks.

hiddendriver34 said:Everyone is fighting for those top-tier schools. Some get in, have a great time, and graduate successfully. Others get in, realize after freshman year that it's not their vibe, and pivot to something completely different. Then there are the ones who don't enroll at all for various reasons—maybe they missed an exam due to illness, or maybe they just fell a few points short of the cutoff. Some find their true calling in a second choice, while others spend a year regrouping and then try again for their original dream. Or, some decide to skip college entirely for a year to work as an au pair in England (and then they fall in love and stay there!). Or they just spend the whole year hitting the books. (I know people who fit every single one of these scenarios.) Life is a million different combinations, and you never really know where the road leads.
What I'm trying to say is that missing a year of college because you got sick isn't some massive life tragedy. It’s sad, sure, and it feels incredibly unfair—and to the kid going through it, it might feel like the end of the world. But it really isn't. Parents need to be the smart ones here and step up to help convince their kids of that.

Sorry, I must be a bit slow—are you pulling my leg?

🤣

Just Google "SAT administration guidelines during the pandemic." There's a section on "testing from home," and it even mentions testing in a hospital.

Amanda Hughes37 said:Let’s be clear: regarding standardized testing, the only students actually feeling the pressure are the ones aiming for top-tier universities. Everyone else doesn't care—they aren't losing sleep over deadlines.
My stance remains that if it's feasible and the student wants it, they should be allowed to take it during the first round.
At least you don't think that's a total joke... because it isn't.
Honestly, I always assumed you could sit for exams even if, say, you were hospitalized... they bring the paperwork to you and you test if you're up for it.
Just like how people receive mail-in ballots for elections, or how homebound instruction is organized for the sick... it makes sense.

??? Good grief..

Yeah, sure, you could even take the exam at home while you're recovering in a hospital.
Everything is possible if you actually bother to organize it ahead of time.
Obviously, you can't just call them up on the morning of the test and say, "Hey, I'm staying home today."
I knew this one kid last year who had gallbladder surgery and was recovering at his house.
He took the whole exam right there in his bedroom. The only rule was that nobody in the house could walk in and it had to be dead silent. Two proctors showed up, taped a sign on the door saying "State Exam—Do Not Disturb!"🤣 and followed every single protocol to the letter.
Masks, six feet apart, the whole bit.

Nicholas King said:Of course saying "there is a protocol where people can still go out, work, and move about normally" doesn't exactly equate to "living a normal life."

Whatever. I mean, I guess I can't even say you're wrong.

Yeah, she claimed there's this whole protocol for people in intensive care where you can "go out, work, and live your life normally."
I didn't see her drop a single link to this supposed protocol, though.
Because it doesn't exist. Period.
Go ahead, keep splitting hairs if it makes you feel better. That's all you ever do.
When was the last time you actually contributed something useful to a thread? Like, an actual solution to anything?
Just tens of thousands of posts filled with nothing but ego, condescension, and nitpicking... yeah, thanks a lot.🥱

Nicholas King said:I'm reading.

Where, exactly, does it say I can actually live a normal life?

There’s a protocol for when people from places like the Rust Belt can go out, work, and move around normally. It's just that the whole area is under heavy surveillance.

And you think that isn't living normally? Come on, don't be dramatic. A lot of us have dealt with lockdowns before, not just you.

Nicholas King said:Who on earth claimed it was possible to live a normal life there?

Check Post 1070, man.

Look, high school graduation exams are gonna roll out just like they did last year once everyone figures out the rhythm. Everything usually settles down eventually. I mean, teachers always find a way to pivot and just make it work somehow.
The administration is probably being smarter this time around, so there shouldn't be any massive meltdown.
But man, the local news is acting all dramatic, making it sound like some huge crisis because they’re pushing the exam dates back by five days... like, chill. Last year, they just had the different test levels on separate days and nobody blinked.

Honestly, the real question is how long they're gonna keep forcing these kids into remote learning.

Drew Johnson2 said:Since there isn't sufficient space, does that mean they don't necessarily have to sit for the exam at that specific high school?
Let the Department of Education pick up the tab; honestly, what's the issue? Besides, if someone has recovered within a three-month window, they're generally considered immune from getting sick again. Given the supposed tidal wave of COVID sweeping through schools lately, I highly doubt they could even find a single teacher left without antibodies...
If they truly can't find anyone, I’d be more than happy to volunteer my services free of charge. I don't work in a school setting, but I do hold a teaching degree, so I imagine I could grasp the protocols quite easily...

Go ahead, throw your name out there.
Last year, FEMA made this decision right around graduation time that they could pull people from other agencies "as needed" to help run exams—I definitely remember the local elementary schools and preschools mentioning it.

And regarding that provocation from Nicholas King: just sitting in a classroom during an exam isn't rocket science. Honestly, anyone with an average IQ- could handle it.

Drew Johnson2 said:And what exactly would be the issue with the protocol if we simply had those students use a dedicated entrance to access a separate area, where they could work under the supervision of someone who actually has antibodies and isn't at any risk...

Personally, I don't see the issue. It’ll probably end up being handled that way anyway—more spacing, maybe just a handful of kids in a dedicated classroom in Chicago. If they take the CTA to get to school, that's on them. The epidemiologists write the rules, not me.

I'm honestly just sitting here waiting for some official link that says you can "live your life normally in quarantine, just with extra precautions," or whatever that one user was rambling about above.
The whole thing sounds like total nonsense to me.
And this kind of stuff could end up costing people a fortune, or worse, someone accidentally ends up in the crosshairs of someone in isolation because they were nearby. But hey, people love to interpret safety guidelines however they feel like it, especially on a public forum.
If someone finds a link that proves me wrong, fine, I'll eat my words.

QUOTE=Drew Johnson2;85317689]Missing a hair appointment is basically the same thing as skipping your high school finals.

Yeah, no. Not even close.
There’s still zero official "protocol" for students who end up getting sick or stuck in intensive care right when exams roll around.
Right now, there's just the standard procedure for ICU patients that applies to everyone.
If they actually decide to change things, the school will just follow whatever instructions they get.
It's not like some principal is just gonna wing it and make their own rules.

mellowskipper said:There is an actual protocol in place regarding when people from neighboring states can leave, work, or move around normally—it’s just a matter of staying under heightened supervision. I mean, I doubt Meta would be bothering to post updates if we were talking about kids with 102-degree fevers and hacking coughs; we’re talking about healthy children here.

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???
Just read the guidelines on the CDC website; they even have a condensed version in a flyer format.
There is zero mention of "normal" movement.
Unless it's an absolute emergency, you aren't leaving the house.
No walks, no heading to work or school, no hanging out or inviting people over... just read the damn thing.

And where exactly are you seeing this "strict supervision" thing? Let us know so we can tell our kids, "Hey, since you're in isolation, you can basically do whatever you want, just stay under 'strict supervision' or whatever."
My son was supposed to have practice and hit the barber today... we had to cancel everything. ☕ Are we being sheep or just responsible?
Edit: and he's gonna miss a buddy's birthday too..

urbantinker8 said:How many freaking extensions would it take to actually make you happy? I don't even know anymore.🍿
Every single week all summer long? Man, I don't know. Maybe. Seems like a lot.
How many enrollment rounds should there even be for med school? Or like, when exactly does the enrollment process actually wrap up? I mean, you have to factor in the Meta exams being graded before they can even finish the final rankings for a specific school, right?
How am I even supposed to coordinate all these totally isolated groups that only share like three mandatory classes on Meta? And who even knows what electives they're taking? It's a mess.
Honestly, how are you even supposed to coordinate all those makeup exams with everyone's schedules in a four-year vocational program? It’s a total nightmare. Trying to sync up all those individual students and their specific credit requirements with the final exam block... I don't know, man. It feels like a massive logistical headache that nobody actually has a plan for. Maybe it's possible, but I guess we'll just see how much of a mess it turns into.

Honestly, you just don't get how much of a massive logistical nightmare this whole thing is from an organizational standpoint. It's a huge undertaking, I guess... maybe you just haven't realized how heavy that lift actually is.

Don't even sweat it. You're basically arguing with someone who clearly has zero clue how things actually work. I guess they seriously think you just list three to five items and call it a day. Whatever.
To all you guys shouting "just give them an interim period"—honestly, take a look at the calendar.

So, I just saw the update on the fall exam schedule for the university. Looks like they finally dropped the dates. If you're still trying to scrape together enough credit hours to stay afloat, now’s the time to start panicking—or at least looking at your calendar. Just a heads up for anyone currently drowning in coursework: check the deadlines before you miss your window and end up stuck waiting until next semester. Typical, right? Everything always feels like a last-minute scramble.

Even if we just ignore the fact that the whole thing needs to be drained and fixed... 🥱So, I was just wondering... how many individual combinations would we actually be looking at for every single student in high school who ends up writing during midterms? Just curious.
So, basically, there are 3 mandatory classes and then up to 6 electives. That means a student could end up taking as many as 9 total. I guess. Maybe.
How many different versions of an exam are we talking about here? You gotta draft 'em, print 'em, hand 'em out, grade 'em... then just sit around waiting for the appeal window to close, wait for the final grades to actually post, and *then* you can even start thinking about applying and getting ranked for your major while following all those ridiculous bureaucratic rules? Seriously? ("Just put everything in one week," my ass.)🤦)

Look, urbantinker8, I'm totally in your corner. Don't let it get to you, seriously.

So, my son—he's in high school now—and his whole class have ended up in the ICU for the third freaking time.
I mean, I’m pretty sure most counties are gonna flip back to remote work starting March 29th. Not that I’m exactly throwing a party about it—honestly, it's kind of the opposite—but you just have to look around at how everything is going. You can see where this is all heading, I guess.
Sucks, I guess.

hollowmason64 said:So, how exactly is she going to prove the clock was sitting right where it is now at the time of the appraisal?
Have you ever actually handled an appraisal yourself? Or maybe even just looked over a formal report? Because they always include photos of the property being valued, and the appraiser usually mentions a few times in the text that you can clearly see the details in those shots.

Then just sue the appraisers and the bank that hired them for being too lazy to notice the number in the bathroom photo.

Case closed. I guess.

hollowmason64 said:The apartment was inspected by two certified appraisers. At the end of the day, these are professionals who get paid specifically to spot discrepancies and make sure everything is exactly where it belongs.
If they didn't flag anything as an issue, I honestly don't see how the original poster can claim otherwise.

And honestly, I'm still scratching my head over this—why is there an issue with where the clock is located?
It wasn't a big deal when it was just a powder room, but now that there's a shower stall, suddenly it's a problem? Based on what, exactly?

And based on that, the author might actually have grounds to sue those two appraisers. Though, honestly, I doubt it. Usually, appraisers are either sent by the bank handling the mortgage or hired privately by the buyer.
They're just trying to nail down the approximate value of the place so the bank knows how much they can cover with a home loan.

I highly doubt these licensed appraisers have deep expertise in structural engineering, statics, safety codes, or any of that stuff.
Their whole job is looking at square footage, which floor it's on, the neighborhood, the layout, the condition of the unit, etc. They definitely aren't checking if some wall was moved and if that messed with the building's structural integrity.

Plus, even if she did try to sue them, who's going to prove that the meter was actually in that spot at the exact moment the place was bought? They could easily just claim the new owners moved it themselves.

It's just a never-ending loop.

And this part makes zero sense to me either: how does a shower stall affect the meter, but a toilet doesn't?
And what does an energy efficiency certificate even have to do with any of this?