brightheron64 said:Who knows? There were once supposedly invincible republics, democracies, and empires... and now they're all just dust in the wind.
Whether they eventually overtake us, I couldn't say (and I certainly don't believe I'll live to see it), but not too long ago, the gap was absolutely massive, almost indescribable... yet the reality is that the distance between them is constantly shrinking.
And speaking of democracy... comparing a one-party state to a two-party system isn't actually such a monumental leap forward. In all honesty, what matters more is who holds the reins of that one party, and I actually suspect that a truly enlightened absolutist might achieve more than a democracy that gets bogged down in endless bickering between the same old elephants and donkeys...
Sure, you can always pull North Korea out as a wildcard, but keep in mind that Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a benign dictatorship either, even if circumstances have allowed them to live in prosperity. On the other hand, in the beacon of democracy (if my memory serves me right), about 11% of the population—and as many as 17% of children—live below the poverty line, which goes to show that, from an economic standpoint, democracy itself isn't a guaranteed ticket to a happy and comfortable life.
Of course... nothing lasts forever, and nothing stays the same. But let’s be real for a second: some social systems just plain work better than others. They provide a higher quality of life, period. It’s a constant. Always has been, always will be.
brightheron64 said:Who knows? There were once supposedly invincible republics, democracies, and empires... and now they're all just dust in the wind.
Whether they eventually overtake us, I couldn't say (and I certainly don't believe I'll live to see it), but not too long ago, the gap was absolutely massive, almost indescribable... yet the reality is that the distance between them is constantly shrinking.
And speaking of democracy... comparing a one-party state to a two-party system isn't actually such a monumental leap forward. In all honesty, what matters more is who holds the reins of that one party, and I actually suspect that a truly enlightened absolutist might achieve more than a democracy that gets bogged down in endless bickering between the same old elephants and donkeys...
Sure, you can always pull North Korea out as a wildcard, but keep in mind that Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a benign dictatorship either, even if circumstances have allowed them to live in prosperity. On the other hand, in the beacon of democracy (if my memory serves me right), about 11% of the population—and as many as 17% of children—live below the poverty line, which goes to show that, from an economic standpoint, democracy itself isn't a guaranteed ticket to a happy and comfortable life.
It all started shrinking right when China decided to adopt that whole Western model once their economy actually hit its stride—and let’s be honest, they adopted the absolute worst version of it. It makes total sense that the gap is closing fast at first because the disparity was just massive to begin with... but now? This convergence has slowed down exactly how you'd expect. When you're starting from zero, any tiny little movement feels like a huge percentage jump, but as you go higher, catching up becomes an uphill battle. It’s just basic math, people. If someone is pulling in $100k gross and gets a 5% raise, they’re looking at an extra $5k in their pocket. But if someone is sitting at $15,000, they’d need something like a 35% bump just to keep pace, let alone actually close the distance. It's simple arithmetic, really.
brightheron64 said:Who knows? There were once supposedly invincible republics, democracies, and empires... and now they're all just dust in the wind.
Whether they eventually overtake us, I couldn't say (and I certainly don't believe I'll live to see it), but not too long ago, the gap was absolutely massive, almost indescribable... yet the reality is that the distance between them is constantly shrinking.
And speaking of democracy... comparing a one-party state to a two-party system isn't actually such a monumental leap forward. In all honesty, what matters more is who holds the reins of that one party, and I actually suspect that a truly enlightened absolutist might achieve more than a democracy that gets bogged down in endless bickering between the same old elephants and donkeys...
Sure, you can always pull North Korea out as a wildcard, but keep in mind that Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a benign dictatorship either, even if circumstances have allowed them to live in prosperity. On the other hand, in the beacon of democracy (if my memory serves me right), about 11% of the population—and as many as 17% of children—live below the poverty line, which goes to show that, from an economic standpoint, democracy itself isn't a guaranteed ticket to a happy and comfortable life.
It’s just not happening... it never was, and it never will be. Honestly, I think you're missing the entire point of why Western democracies consistently outperform one-party systems, autocracies, or straight-up dictatorships. Look, sure, a country where one single person calls all the shots can pull off some quick wins early on. That’s mainly because they don't have to deal with actual laws or red tape—it’s just "do this" or "don't do that," plain and simple. But that's a sucker's game. Very quickly, that whole system loses its steam, and the entire nation ends up held hostage by that exact style of decision-making. It’s a pattern we've seen play out a million times before.
Ever stop and wonder why you can name every single dictator on the planet—I mean, sure, everyone knows Putin, Lukashenko, Maduro, and Erdogan—but if someone asked you who actually runs Switzerland or heads up the government in Sweden, Norway, Australia, Portugal, or Denmark, you’d be totally lost? It’s kind of wild when you think about it. We spend all this mental energy tracking these absolute tyrants, yet we have zero clue who’s steering the ships in countries that are actually successful, stable, and objectively better at running things. It’s like we're hardwired to obsess over the chaos while ignoring the people actually making life work.
Look, you don't get it, and honestly, it doesn't even matter. It’s irrelevant because all these countries have more or less independent institutions that actually do their jobs regardless of who happens to be sitting in the Oval Office or the PM's chair. It's the exact same setup here in the States. We have a massive web of agencies and institutions that function on their own, and frankly, it makes zero difference whether we have a Democrat or a Republican leading the charge. The President of the USA doesn't have some unlimited, unchecked power to just do whatever they want—you can't compare that to someone like Putin. That's why your comparison between the US and a one-party system or a dictatorship is totally off base. It's a massive distinction and a huge step forward, which is the complete opposite of what you're claiming. At the end of the day, the strength of any democratic nation isn't about which specific politician is currently in power; it's about how robust and independent its institutions are.
brightheron64 said:Who knows? There were once supposedly invincible republics, democracies, and empires... and now they're all just dust in the wind.
Whether they eventually overtake us, I couldn't say (and I certainly don't believe I'll live to see it), but not too long ago, the gap was absolutely massive, almost indescribable... yet the reality is that the distance between them is constantly shrinking.
And speaking of democracy... comparing a one-party state to a two-party system isn't actually such a monumental leap forward. In all honesty, what matters more is who holds the reins of that one party, and I actually suspect that a truly enlightened absolutist might achieve more than a democracy that gets bogged down in endless bickering between the same old elephants and donkeys...
Sure, you can always pull North Korea out as a wildcard, but keep in mind that Saudi Arabia isn't exactly a benign dictatorship either, even if circumstances have allowed them to live in prosperity. On the other hand, in the beacon of democracy (if my memory serves me right), about 11% of the population—and as many as 17% of children—live below the poverty line, which goes to show that, from an economic standpoint, democracy itself isn't a guaranteed ticket to a happy and comfortable life.
Look, nothing in life is a 100% guarantee, but one system gives you a million times more chances at a decent life than the other... and we've been seeing that play out in real time for decades. And regarding this whole "poverty line" argument—I don't know the exact stats off the top of my head, but honestly, you're just playing with numbers here. Do you even know what the poverty threshold is in the US for a family of four? It's almost $30,000 a year. Anything under that gets lumped into "poverty." Go ahead, try applying that same logic to any one-party state or dictatorship... then come back and tell me how it went.
The US has a massive pile of problems, no doubt about it... that’s a fact... but there is absolutely no comparison when you put us up against China, Russia, and those other total disasters...