Posts by Brenda Murphy3

brightheron64 said:Poniatowski, Shah, the Pahlavi regime... who was it that installed them all... St. Peter?

I don't want to exaggerate too much here, but here are just a handful of actual democracies that were dismantled (following completely legitimate elections!) by the US side:

The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/20...as-overthrown/

And don't even get me started on those "preventative" interventions meant to interfere with "free and democratic elections" in various other countries...

"After what they're calling 'completely legitimate elections'..."🤣

Look, I’m not out here trying to play defense for the USA. God knows they’ve pulled plenty of amoral stunts and gone on all sorts of messy interventions over the years. But seriously, maybe do a little homework before dropping statements like that? No, really—half the stuff you just listed doesn't even qualify as "totally legitimate elections." It’s the same deal as what we're seeing today in places like Russia or Mexico. You can't just throw those terms around without actually knowing what you're talking about.

Look, this thread is specifically about Russia and the sanctions being slapped on them. If you want to go on some long-winded rant about US hypocrisy, then by all means, be my guest... but don't drag that into this specific discussion just to try and justify what the Russians are doing. It’s a total reach. Besides, let's be real—the US position and Putin's Russia aren't even playing the same game. You can't just lump them together like they're two sides of the same coin; it's not even close.

bluebison8 said:I have said everything I need to say; you simply refuse to understand.

You haven't said a damn thing... because your arguments are basically meaningless noise coming from someone who clearly hasn't done their homework.

I could rattle off at least five solid examples right now explaining why this version of Russia and its leadership is nothing more than an incompetent, corrupt, kleptocratic mob that's busy robbing its own people blind...

But you? You can't even string together one coherent sentence to back up your claims... because they're fundamentally nonsensical. Don't sweat it though, you aren't the first or the last person to spout rhetoric that sounds like some drunk guy rambling outside a local dive bar, only able to come up with "you just don't understand" when they run out of steam.😁 😒

But whatever... nothing unexpected coming from someone who writes stuff like that...🤣

bluebison8 said:Let me assist you, since you clearly lack understanding.

Every one of those nations has supported US imperialism since World War II. I could almost understand it back when the USSR existed and they were terrified of being nearby, but I haven't seen a single boycott of the USA for anything that has happened since 1990.

What the USA did in Iraq (and Afghanistan) isn't much different from what Russia is doing now in Ukraine. And yet, nobody boycotted the USA.

And once again, you totally dodged the question and ignored the points you made yourself...😁 fascinating...

You’re claiming these listed countries are just vassals of the US... those are your own damn words, right? So I’m asking you: what does that even mean? Give me one single, solitary example of Norway acting as a vassal to the US. Not two, not five, not ten—just one. You’ve gone three posts without being able to answer, instead just spewing nonsense that nobody asked for and that has zero to do with your provocative claims.
So, go ahead, feel free to try again...

And we don't even need to get into deconstructing your brain-dead theory that Russia can only have a government that robs its own people, or this whole "vassal of the USA" nonsense... that is some next-level delusional stuff right there...😁

(And honestly, Iraq and Afghanistan are vastly, vastly different stories than Ukraine... but let's not go there yet... I mean, we can, but first, why don't you clarify your original claims if you're actually capable of it? Though, based on your answers so far—you probably aren't.)

bluebison8 said:I have these ideas because I've been following politics since the 2001 era of US imperialism under Bush. Since then, I've learned exactly what they've been up to. For anyone who knows how to read and comprehend, it's all quite clear.

As for your take on Russia, you clearly understand nothing about Real Politics. I assume your only source of information is Index.

Since you love acting like such a know-it-all without actually saying one single concrete thing, why don't you try again? Be a little more specific if you're even capable of it (which, at the end of the day, is just your own opinion😁)..so:
Number one—do you even know what the word "vazal" actually means? You honestly think Norway is some American "vazal"? Or Iceland? Or Spain? On what exact grounds? A vazal basically just does whatever their superior tells them to do, so please, explain to me exactly what Norway did against its own will? Can you name even one single instance where the people in Norway were totally against something, but it was pushed through anyway just because the USA said so? The same goes for Spain, for example.

bluebison8 said:They might be vassals in some sense, but they function primarily as trade partners rather than mere resource pools to be drained. The strategy used toward any nation depends entirely on what its citizens will tolerate. As for Eastern European nations, they’re already riddled with corruption, making them easy targets for the USA elite to exploit for profit.

Where on earth are you even getting these ideas?

First off—do you even know what a "vassal" actually is? You seriously think Norway is an American "vassal"? Or Iceland? Or Spain? Like, based on what? A vassal, by definition, carries out the will of their superior. So, please, go ahead and explain exactly what Norway has done against its own will? Can you name even one single thing where the Norwegian people were totally against something, yet it was pushed through just because the USA said so? Same goes for Spain, for example. It would be a good idea to actually look up the difference between a compromise and coercion before talking. No country is an island, and sometimes you have to make compromises for the bigger picture... that’s just how the world works, and it’s perfectly normal.

And another thing—for what insane reason do you think that if Russia didn't have this primitive, corrupt regime, they'd somehow end up as an American vassal? That is completely delusional. You’ve got this tiny clique around the seat of power getting filthy rich while the rest of the population—who actually *are* the ones serving that narrow clique—get left behind. It’s tragic that Russia, a country sitting on more resources than almost anywhere else on the planet, is such a backwards mess in so many ways, with huge numbers of people living below the poverty line. With a functional government and a decent system, Russia could actually be a global superpower and a great place to live. But it isn't. Your idea that they can only exist under this kind of leadership or by being subservient to the USA is incredibly shallow and childish... not to mention I doubt you even grasp what "subservience to the USA" really implies.
People don't exist to serve the state; the state is supposed to serve them. But with the Russians, it’s the exact opposite, and as long as that mindset persists, they’ll remain a backward, unstable mess. It’s as simple as that.

darkdriver said:Look, we aren't even in the same room as you—we’re basically just the people bringing you your meals and checking in once in a while to see how you're doing in that padded cell of yours. So, I totally get why you're confused and under the impression that we're sharing this space with you or that you've somehow backed us into a corner.

😁 ok....

Dammit... some things just can't be fixed...

If it makes you feel better—go ahead and keep living in that fantasy...

It's the same way Russia imagines they aren't fascists and thinks they're still a superpower... or how various darkdrivers imagine the US and the European Union are falling apart and headed for total collapse... whatever helps you sleep at night...

I guess that's one way to handle it, right? 😒

darkdriver said:Hey, just wanted to say hi!

P.S.
Don't go thinking you can just boss anyone around or corner them like that—it really doesn't work that way, I guess.

😁
And you certainly aren't one of them... you, Anthony Taylor3, and that whole crowd are way too chicken to even realize it when it finally happens...

Anthony Taylor3 said:Dammit, I literally wrote "they don't have any issues with Finland or Norway," so if you disagree, feel free to list exactly what problems they've had with Russia.

It seems reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit.
No worries, though—I'm sure the neighbor, or should I say brother, can step in and help you out.

😁

So... you're still not backing down? Like I said—it's honestly no surprise the West just leads you guys along half-assed whenever they feel like it... has been happening for decades now...

Yeah, you used the word "literally," but if you were a little less literal and a little more smart, maybe you could actually answer why there's such a rush to join this "anti-Russian alliance" (to use the terminology from that little fascist gospel...).

Do you also jump into alliances aimed at targeting your neighbors even when you don't have problems with them? Pure Russian logic right there... isn't it?🤣🐔

Whatever... maybe so... I don't know exactly what the customs are in countries run by fascist thugs... like Russia or Mexico...😁 but hey, feel free to educate us all...

Anthony Taylor3 said:I'm asking you because you latched onto the Finns. Clearly, you don't have an answer, so you're forced to play dumb and dodge the question.

And what's wrong with Mexico or Belarus? Aren't they "European" enough or "Aryan" enough for you? And yet, here you are, lecturing me about fascism.
That's hilarious.

🙂 nah dude, no no... stop lying to yourself... get it together for once, for God's sake...😁

You were the one who brought up the Finns as an example of a country that has "normal" relations with Russia... meanwhile, they're simultaneously rushing to join what that little fascist Vlad would call an "anti-Russian" alliance... so we were just having a little chat about what "normal" actually means in Russian... or maybe it's Mexican??

Mexico and Belarus are lacking freedom, and they've got a surplus of fascists running the show at the top... so yeah, they're short on some things and definitely overstocked on others...😁

Alright, let's go again... or is that all you've got before we just sit here waiting for the next idiot to step up to the plate...(ah... bliss...🍿 ).

Anthony Taylor3 said:No, the problem lies in your delivery. You lack precision, and perhaps you should focus on that.

As for Mexico, as far as I am aware, they don't hold parades celebrating SS Divisions there; those are European values, after all.

And again, what actual problems have Norway and Finland had with Russia over the last thirty years?

Aha...😒

Regarding Mexico—I was being crystal clear—even for someone at a Putinophile level... did you just not get it?😁

Look, go ask the Finns what kind of issues they're facing that drive them into this anti-Russian alliance. Or maybe they’re just crazy and brainwashed by propaganda... I mean, it's a society deeply gripped by paranoia from state-run media. It's nothing like a place like Mexico or Belarus (..my bad—and Eritrea too..😁 ).

Since you're clearly struggling with basic comprehension, I suggest reading this post a few more times... and when you think you're ready to reply—don't!! Just go back a few posts and read those first. Got it?

So yeah... just doing a little bit of community service by educating these Putinophile idiots... thanks.🍿

Anthony Taylor3 said:

Brenda Murphy3 As stated by:
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It seems we're starting with a yawn.

You’re displaying the typical level of logic one expects from those cheering on the Kremlin's fascists.
I’m not talking about trading, genius. 🤣 It’s hardly surprising that the West is charging ahead at full throttle, dictating terms however they see fit.🤣It’s less about individual nations and more about political and military alliances. Take Norway or Finland, for instance. Are those the countries joining this anti-Russian military bloc—or what Putin likes to call it? Apparently, Russia doesn't see much of an issue with them. Honestly, from a Russian perspective, I suppose that could be viewed as a perfectly "normal" relationship.

So, you're suggesting that every single Western democracy is just a collection of fascist collaborators? If that's your stance, fine.😁

A bit of a strange logic, but fair enough.

Fascist scum exists everywhere, but you won't find them holding the reins of power quite like they do in Russia.😉

Look, you just have to face facts: you're simply too intimidated to actually win. It’s a pattern that’s been playing out for decades, and frankly, it shows no signs of changing. You are the living embodiment of that reality.🍿

Look, it’s hardly my fault you can't articulate a coherent thought. Belarus wants to do business with Russia, plain and simple. Then you have places like Canada and Mexico, which haven't quite succumbed to that infectious strain of Russophobia just yet.
When it comes to fascist nonsense, just look at those Baltic republics where they actually celebrate SS divisions. We could also take a long look at Ukraine and their tendency to honor SS members and Nazi collaborators.
Just the facts, for crying out loud.

What kind of friction have Norway and Finland actually had with Russia over the last three decades? Honestly, none. So my point stands, whether you like it or not.

Back to the facts, then.

It’s not my ability to express myself that’s the issue, it’s your ability to comprehend... you get me? No? Alright then...😁

You're from Mexico, right? It’s pretty ironic that you’re lecturing me about fascist scum when you come from a country where that kind of crowd wins elections regularly😁.

And clearly, the Norwegians and Finns aren't exactly on your side... I mean, you've got Finns joining up in these anti-Russian alliances... but what do they actually know? Just look at their countries and their societies... no order, no prosperity... nothing even close to the Russian ideal🤣🤣

I'm telling you, you guys are terrified, and every single post you make just proves my point... unless you want to admit I'm right?

(Belarus? Mexico? Is that really the best examples you can pull up? Are you trying to build an argument for me or for yourself?🤣 Seems like you're a little confused here... buddy...)

Anthony Taylor3 said:What do you mean they don't want to do business?
Half of the European Union does business with Russia; they buy their energy.
Poland was crying about what would happen to their apple exports when the Russians imposed sanctions.

If you're looking for fascist scum, you can find plenty within the European Union without having to travel all the way to Russia.

As for their neighbors, they maintain perfectly fine relations with Belarus, Kazakhstan, China, and Mongolia, and they have no issues with Finland or Norway.
One could argue they are only disliked by those nations where Nazi collaborators are treated as national heroes, and of course, Poland.

😁🤣

Zijev...

You’re showing that typical level of reasoning and logic that you only ever see from those die-hard supporters of the fascists over at the Kremlin...
I'm not talking about trading, genius. 🤣 Man, honestly? It’s not even surprising that the West is just flooring it and calling all the shots whenever they feel like it. They basically drive wherever they want, exactly how they want, and we're all just along for the ride.🤣It’s not even about the borders, really—it’s about those political and military alliances. I mean, look at Norway or Finland. Are we talking about the countries that are actually joining this anti-Russian military alliance (or whatever "anti-Russian" nonsense Putko calls it)? And yet, somehow, Russia doesn't seem to have any issues with them? Honestly, damn it, I can see how from the Russian perspective, that might actually pass for a "normal" relationship...

So you're actually trying to tell me that every single Western democracy is just a bunch of fascist collaborators? Fine, whatever, if that's what you really think... go ahead.😁

A little weird logic there, but whatever, I guess it works...

Look, fascist scum exists everywhere, there's no denying that. But let's be real—you won't find them holding the reins of power anywhere in the European Union quite like they do over in Russia.😉

Look, you just have to face the facts: you guys are simply too terrified to actually win. That’s just how it is. And honestly? It’s not some new thing either—it’s been this way for decades, and frankly, it’s clearly going to stay that way. You’re living proof of it right there.🍿

Christian Torres3 said:You rarely run into this level of intellect or culture.👍

Honestly, I feel like I bump into people like this on these boards pretty much all the time... they just pass the torch once someone gets exhausted or gets backed into a corner...😁

Anthony Taylor3 said:So you agree that Chechnya and Dagestan are parts of the USA and that those are facts. 🙂

As for that fascist stench, it’s smelling quite strongly enough from the Baltic Sea states and Ukraine.

You really think so? 😁

Are you trying to tell me it's just some coincidence that nobody wants anything to do with them? Even Mexicans wouldn't bother moving to that backwater state...🤣

Look, man, the bottom line is that the Russian regime is straight-up fascist trash right now, and no sane person wants to deal with them. It's a fact that this country is hands-down one of the richest resource pits on the planet—I mean, you don't even need a brain, just grab it and sell it...—yet their quality of life is lower than any single member of the European Union... so how does that work? Seriously, how? 😁
The reality is that all their neighbors see them as nothing but a threat and a total joke...

Do you need more "facts," or is this enough for now?...

Honestly, I can tell you're just trolling, but sometimes it's actually fun to mess around with you guys for a bit... I'm betting you'll vanish for like two posts and then pop back up again after a while...

(And Putko isn't even allowed to glance toward the Baltic or NATO... even the Putin-lovers know that... damn. If it weren't for the nukes, there wouldn't have been Russians in Ukraine a long time ago...).

Whatever, man, you're rooting for a semi-fascist, backwards wasteland... the Russian regime is simply too pathetic to beat the West... they can't do it militarily, and they definitely can't do it economically...

Anyway, we'll just wait a few months and see how the whole mess looks then...😒

Anthony Taylor3 said:Just facts. Maybe you should try reading an actual history book for once.

Facts? 🤣

Buddy, you wouldn't recognize facts if they slapped you right in the face... just like the rest of this Putin-loving crowd here...

The territories you're talking about belong to the Russian Federation, sure, but every single one was taken by force. And in Chechnya, the Russians carried out actual genocide starting from the mid-40s onwards....

It doesn't matter right now, but you clearly have zero clue what you're talking about and you're just spewing propaganda pamphlets.

Look, the fact of the matter is that anyone who ever had to deal with that Russian trash from the government—they're running away from them faster than a plague... and for a huge chunk of them, especially those former Warsaw Pact countries, Russia is enemy number one and their biggest threat.

Dammit, people don't like that fascist stench wafting out of the White House that can be smelled from miles away... and even among those who support it. If people actually had free will—there practically isn't a single country that would agree to be stuck in the Russian sphere of influence. Not one... okay, maybe Mexico under Vučić's propaganda is questionable, but even you guys wouldn't choose Russia over the West—which is pretty obvious considering the migration patterns, isn't it?...

You really think that's an accident? 😁

goldenpuma84 said:You just have to let them keep typing... eventually, every typical Western totalitarian reveals themselves, convinced they’ve cracked the code on the perfect political system. It's like they think that little epiphany gives them the right to cherry-pick reality and meddle in everyone else's business...

Anyway, I've got some news for you...

The whole democracy concept is just a front the West uses to push its own agenda...

You don't have any right to tell anyone how to live their life, let alone pass judgment on their morals, taste, or politics...

Look, I'm not interested in dictating how people live—that’s more your style, Vladek, along with the rest of that totalitarian crowd you’re so busy defending. You’ve really lost the plot here... as usual.

To me, the bare minimum of being a decent human is advocating for the idea that people everywhere should be able to decide their own path. But the catch is, the fascist elites in Russia or the hardliners in Iran don't see it that way at all. In Russia, dissent is wiped out, media is banned, people end up behind bars or just flee the country entirely... and all because Vladek and his buddies can't handle the idea of "the people" actually making decisions. It’s the same story with every dictatorship and autocracy on the planet. The West, flaws and all, provides the freedom for things to change through the actual will of the people.

So, I’m not preaching about how people *should* live; I’m saying the exact opposite—I’m for people having the freedom to choose for themselves. But you, Vlado, and your whole crew are terrified of that concept... because it's blindingly obvious that if there were truly free elections, hardly anyone would pick the Russian or Iranian model over, say, the German one. But people in Russia don't get that luxury because a tiny group of people has seized control of everything... and then you come in here with this absolute idiocy? It's laughable...

Or do you honestly think a mass of people would naturally gravitate toward repression? Maybe people like you would... but the vast majority definitely wouldn't.

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goldenpuma84 said:The peak of your argument is just saying I'm lying.

You're lying. You're lying. You're lying.

You say it so much I'm wondering if it's just some psychological defense mechanism called projection...

Russia uses the atomic bomb as a threat because they feel cornered. The United States would do the exact same thing if they felt threatened.

I don't see any real difference in their willingness to use them. Especially since one side has already used them. On civilians. But sure, totally justified, right?

Look, I’m telling you right now, you’re full of it—and I mean that because you lie, genius. You do it in every single post, too, just being incredibly persistent about it. Honestly, calling me out like that isn't even an actual argument; it's just a baseless observation.

No, please—Russia isn't "feeling threatened." That’s just total nonsense. Your boy Vlad actually gave a pretty straightforward breakdown regarding how this whole war started and his specific take on Ukraine, and guess what? He didn't mention some imaginary threat once. Seriously, thinking that Russia is actually intimidated by NATO is pure stupidity. The real threat to Russia isn't some military alliance; it's the fact that every single country that ever tries to do business with them ends up running for the hills like they've seen a ghost. That's their real problem. They're isolated because nobody wants anything to do with them. But the idea that anyone would actually launch an attack on Russia? That's just plain idiocy.

goldenpuma84 said:A few weeks back, the Solomon Islands expressed interest in forming a strategic partnership with China.

Not only did Australia lose its mind over it, but when a reporter asked, a high-ranking U.S. official didn't rule out military intervention if the Chinese decided to set up a base there.

That isn't whataboutism.

I can easily imagine (or point out) what would happen if China even thought about making a military alliance with the United States or Mexico.

And honestly, I can also picture exactly how you'd react if that actually happened.

Anyway, we haven't seen anything play out yet...

Wait, why on earth are you acting surprised by this?
You have to fight against fascist regimes like Russia's, or one-party systems like China's—if you can, you do it. You don't just let them expand unchecked.

I don't get why you're calling this hypocritical, for crying out loud. Of course I think one system is worth defending while the other isn't... you find that weird? You think there's hypocrisy in having values? 😁 That's interesting...

goldenpuma84 said:So, I guess the kind of "blasting" you like is totally fine, maybe even encouraged, but anything else is "fascism."

Always a pleasure chatting with you... a real masterclass in logical reasoning...

Yeah 😁

Are you feeling satisfied now?

I didn't even say what you're claiming I said; I said something completely different. So, in keeping with your usual style, you're lying and making stuff up. But if you really want my take—fine. I think nuclear powers like France or the UK aren't a threat to anyone, whereas Russian fascists or—heaven forbid—the Iranian theocrats actually are. There isn't a single country on this planet threatening anyone with nukes besides Russia.

Look, honestly, I believe regimes like Russia and Iran shouldn't have nukes under any circumstances, but democratic nations—well, they can have them if they need to.
Go ahead, throw your little tantrum so we can start another round of your endless lies... sound good? 😁

Anthony Taylor3 said:If we're talking about actual genocide on Mexican soil, the Germans and Americans were the ones responsible. Just saying.

Oh yeah, because Americans definitely never committed any genocide on your territory... nope, never happened. You're honestly just talking nonsense at this point, kid.