Posts by fadedranger162

Hopefully they’ll actually get their act together and explain this whole mess better by Monday. As far as I can tell, nothing really changes for employers—they’re still the ones issuing stuff for their staff. The only real tweak is they’ll have to register everyone in the system properly so companies aren't just handing out passes to whoever walks through the door.

Grace Edwards said:I could spin this loop for months.
And if they ever decide to test everyone in America, those old cases will just resurface, giving Joe another reason to act. Even if there wasn't a single case of COVID left in the entire US, the Republican Party would find a way to stretch their reach and fake every single flu test to look like a COVID positive.
It’s a perfect mechanism to justify a long-term dictatorship.

Well, it wouldn't be "years" since we aren't actually *that* many people, but it's looking pretty certain that nothing is loosening up before June.

Back when they needed to test more frequently, they were out there pulling random people aside from their cars just to find enough infected folks to isolate early—now, that whole thing has spread way further than anyone knows. I’m honestly curious if, after all this, they’re actually going to test everyone to see how many people developed antibodies, you know, like how they announced they would in the UK.

Adam Collins4 said:I’m honestly just wondering—does anyone actually have their e-Wallet set up and active?

Never used it myself, and I'd say most people in the 20-35 bracket are pretty connected to it, maybe a few percent in the 45-55 range too. Everyone else probably hasn't even heard of the thing yet.

quietfox38 said:That’s how it worked until now. But this new pass has to have a QR code and looks totally different. They haven't explained how employers are actually supposed to issue them. 🤷

No, no, wasn't it said that the employer just has to register workers in that system using their SSN or whatever, and then the boss still issues their own regular passes? Besides, I doubt even the ones with QR codes will work because the police won't have a way to scan them, so they'll probably just check IDs? At least that was what was being said before, I wonder if they've figured it out by now... 🤷

Honestly, I’m kind of digging this April Fools' joke they're playing on us. They say the restrictions are going to ease up once we see five straight days of declining cases, but at the same time, they've ramped up testing everywhere—so obviously, we're seeing more positive results now. It's all pretty clever 🙏 🤣

Larry Walker24 said:HERE'S THE PROBLEM!!!

Dozens of Americans are being flown back home from all those COVID hotspots, thanks to help from our Department of State, according to a statement they dropped on Monday.

We've got 11 people coming back from Los Angeles, 29 from Washington, D.C., and 13 were sent back Sunday from Colorado.

On Sunday, 20 Americans also made it back via New York City after flying out of New Delhi, plus seven people came home from Cuba, 16 from Peru, and one from Bolivia.

They’ve also been coordinating travel for Americans moving back and forth to the Czech Republic for medical treatment.

The memo points out that since we're currently holding the presidency of the European Council, our embassies outside the EU are basically acting as coordinators. For example, the U.S. Consulate in Dubai even managed to get a flight out for EU citizens who were stuck in transit on a plane arriving from Dubai to Washington, D.C.

There were 32 Americans on that specific flight.

- They mentioned they know a lot of seasonal workers are stuck in a bad spot right now, and the consulates are trying to figure out the best way to get them home.



And they're coming straight from the middle of the outbreak too. 🤦 🤦 🤦

Look, it’s not an issue that we’re bringing our people home so they don't end up stranded in some foreign country indefinitely. The headache starts when they actually land—that's when the government just washes its hands of them and dumps everything on the taxpayers. Sure, most folks will follow the rules, but there’s always that minority that won't, and that’s where the chaos begins. Instead of providing support during their quarantine, they just leave them hanging. I'll even go so far as to be cynical and say they're doing this on purpose just to rake in more fines, because after this, every single cent is going to count.

Kelandar said:

If you're forcing people into quarantine, you better be prepared to pay them for it.

That’s exactly why they’re dodging the word "quarantine" altogether, scrambling to find any other fancy label just to avoid the responsibility. 😛

stormybadger8 said:You're lucky you even 😁
Around here, they issue them from 10-11 and 2-3...so deal with it 😍
At least we have our own municipality, everyone gets their own 🎉

And no, he isn't the one to blame. We're the ones at fault for agreeing to this nonsense in the first place...
Some people even fought tooth and nail just to get their own local government, so here we are...

If they were actually efficient, it would be worth all the fighting we did. You'd have fewer people to worry about and things would get done faster, but nope, it’s actually worse. I’m genuinely curious how many more examples like this are out there. Honestly, I’d bet money that all these bureaucrats are pulling full-time salaries while preaching to everyone else about how the private sector has to survive on minimum wage for months because they "can't" or "aren't allowed" to work right now.

Adam Collins4 said:Look, I’m with you on this—and honestly, I’m probably the first person to step up and say that we shouldn't just grind everything to a halt.

And we really need to get certain things back to normal—you know, the stuff that actually matters for the economy or the healthcare system... everything else is just noise.

Look, when people start whining that this is just like a bad case of the flu, or acting like their life is falling apart because they haven't seen their girlfriend in six days... honestly, those people have no idea what actual hardship looks like. They don't know the first thing about real struggle.

Look, these kinds of bans aren't just some local invention of ours—honestly, most countries are playing by the exact same playbook.

When you take our collective mindset into account—you know, the way we all operate—places like those local dive bars and the neighborhood betting parlors could easily spiral into a total disaster.

It’s not just about six days, either. I’ve heard people saying this could drag on for up to six months. Look, we can draw parallels to Navy sailors and their wives being separated for months at a time, but let’s be real—how many people actually have the emotional stamina to pull that off? Sure, having high-speed internet and FaceTime makes things easier than they used to be, but most people aren't so socially detached that they can just cut ties with their loved ones overnight without it taking a massive toll.

Honestly, it’s actually worse when you’re only a few miles apart and she’s stuck in the next town over where you can't even get to her. That’s way more infuriating than if she were on the other side of the world.

Honestly, if you ask me, we should just make social distancing in grocery stores a permanent thing. I am totally fine with it. There is nothing worse than standing in line and having some stranger breathing down your neck or coughing right in your face because they think being all bunched up is somehow going to speed things up. It’s annoying as hell. As for the temporary shutdowns for restaurants and bars, I can get behind that too. With how much foot traffic there is, it makes sense. Honestly, most people are finally starting to wrap their heads around what's actually happening, so I don't think anyone would even complain about these extra precautions.

Honestly, this whole stay-at-home order is a total joke. It’s way too little, too late—everyone already scattered before they even got the paperwork sorted. And don't even get me started on how fragmented everything is here. Between all these tiny towns and counties acting like their own little kingdoms, nothing ever works together. Plus, you basically have to go beg some local small-town politician for permission every single time you need to cross a county line just to grab something. It's ridiculous.

So, take me for example—I'm one of those lucky people who falls right into the "small town" category, which basically means...9.3 miles Everything basically revolves around him, but let's be real—the kind of crowd gravitating toward that city is mostly people in their 30s...25 miles Look, most people out there have their entire lives and livelihoods tied up in this one hub. Everyone else is living in these tiny little rural towns nearby. Some might have a corner grocery store or maybe a local pharmacy if they're lucky, but for the most part, we're talking real small-town territory here. The whole area only has about 10,000 people between them, and now, all of a sudden, they're being told they need special permits just to go about their daily business. It’s ridiculous.

The idea isn't half bad, but honestly, it needs some work. If they’re going to roll this out, they should probably stick to major metropolitan areas or specific border counties. Otherwise, you're just going to screw over anyone living right on the line between two counties. I know people who live halfway between jurisdictions all the time—they'd end up getting caught in the middle of some bureaucratic mess because of how these boundaries are drawn.

Look, here’s how it works: say someone lives out in the Midwest or somewhere remote and they can't even get out to their own farmland unless they have an official farm business set up. So, what do they do? They just write themselves a pass. If that field happens to be in a different county, they just roll with it because that land is their entire livelihood. Meanwhile, you've got people hitting up a grocery store in Chicago or NYC who end up interacting with way more people in a single afternoon than that farmer does in an entire month.

Look, the measures themselves aren't necessarily bad, but trying to roll them out nationwide is a total joke because the situation isn't even the same from state to state. It’s honestly infuriating. We're basically punishing millions of regular people just because a handful of idiots can't follow the rules, and the folks in Washington are too incompetent to actually manage the crisis properly instead of just slapping a one-size-fits-all bandage on it.

@Kenneth Nelson9 Look, I heard some talk that you don't even need official confirmation to head back, but honestly? Don't risk it. Just double-check with the local authorities in your home state before you do anything. You get your paperwork from your actual place of residence, not wherever you happen to be hanging out right now. That’s a lesson I learned the hard way recently.

Kyle Nelson2 said:I mean, you see those YouTubers who have been posting about their lives over in Shanghai, right? It’s pretty obvious from what they're showing that all the other provinces were under lockdown too. They just didn't call it a quarantine. I guess they just chose different words for it, maybe.

Well, duh, they tightened restrictions across the rest of the country because once you have one neighborhood hit with cases, it would be a total disaster for a country our size if it spread, but they weren't going for a full-blown lockdown.

Kyle Nelson2 said:To me, this whole restriction thing feels like pure bureaucratic bullying against regular people. It’s mostly born out of total incompetence from the government, paired with opposition parties that are even more clueless.

I said this a long time ago—everyone who tested positive or was told to self-isolate (whether they traveled back to the US or were just exposed) should have been put in hotels. Those places are sitting empty anyway.
We would have had 10,000 people in actual quarantine, and the rest of the country could have functioned normally. Instead, what we have is this half-baked quarantine that might be okay for a month, but staying like this until June is total nonsense.

If we had actually put those 10,000 people under supervision in hotels, we wouldn't be seeing these incidents where parents take their kids to the doctor instead of isolating, or those 800-plus people getting caught breaking quarantine... but I guess then the government would actually have to put in some effort to organize housing. Instead, they just write fines and dump all the responsibility on the other 300 million Americans to just rot at home.

I honestly want to know how they expect to handle cases where someone actually has to leave their county.
It could be anything—seeing a specialist, an emergency dentist visit, pregnancy complications, or even going to a funeral for a close relative...

Bureaucrats have decided that life just needs to stop, and anyone who pushes back gets labeled an enemy of the people because, hey, they're "just trying to save lives."
And another thing, why aren't they testing more people? Everywhere else, everyone has to wear masks... EVERYONE!!
Not here. What, are they cutting corners on healthcare now? Are they expecting people to pay the price for their cheapness? People are going to start voting with their feet, just like they always do...

It’s like I wrote before—you could see the mess happening in China, and you could already see the chaos in Italy, yet here in America, they let a few thousand people fly back into the country and wander around freely. Plus, they keep them crowded at the border for hours just to get a stamp so they can go into isolation.

They could have put them all in hotels, one per room, so nothing spreads if someone is infected. Thank God we at least have hotels; just station a few cops around the place so nobody escapes and you're done. They were closed anyway, and at least people (cooks, cleaners, etc., even on a reduced scale) would still have jobs.

Adam Collins4 said:Yeah, I definitely am—especially when it comes to people who just refuse to look at the actual facts. It’s hard not to get a bit arrogant when you're staring down someone who ignores a solid argument just to keep banging on about their own nonsense...

You know those people who act like they’re going through some massive tragedy just because they haven't seen someone in six days? It’s honestly hilarious—they’ll be out there making a huge scene, claiming this whole thing is just like a common flu, while acting like their world is ending. Total nonsense.

And once again, you’re spot on—I definitely fall outside the bell curve when it comes to intelligence and raw capability, at least within the very specific niche I spend my life in...

Look, just to be clear—unlike the crowd you’re busy defending who keep insisting this is nothing more than a glorified flu—I’ve actually done the legwork. I’ve burned through mountains of articles, combed through endless reports, and watched every available video coming out of Italy, France, and Germany. For me, there's no "lost in translation" issue here—all those languages mean exactly the same thing when you're looking at the actual data.

And here you all are, still spouting that nonsense about how it’s just like having the flu... honestly, it's embarrassing.

Just watch a few clips—you don't even need to follow what they’re actually saying—but just look at the sheer desperation in those people's eyes. Seriously. And then you can go right back to claiming that anyone calling this out is being dramatic... if that's how you want to play it.

If you actually bother to scratch beneath the surface here, you could probably get slapped with a defamation lawsuit just based on that opening sentence alone. Honestly—if you keep trying to push these mindless accusations that aren't even rooted in reality, all you’re doing is digging a hole for yourself. You're basically handing them all the evidence they need to take you to court for nothing more than a smear campaign.

Pray to God that we get more people like me—because as long as we keep padding the federal budget, there’ll be plenty of cash left over to fund that little stock market getaway you’ve been planning.😉

Look, let’s be real—once we hit the brakes, your little flameout is gonna happen right along with us.

It’s just part of your whole deal, isn't it? That constant urge to bolt and go into hiding. Honestly, you’ve always been like this—whenever things actually start getting loud or heavy, you suddenly find some "urgent work obligation" to hide behind. It’s your classic move. And clearly, you're doing the exact same thing right now—already mapping out your little escape route before the dust even settles.

P.S.

So, picture this: you’ve got 30 people squeezed into a space of over 10,000 square feet—which, let's be honest, isn't exactly a sprawling campus—and then half of them are already sitting at home on paid time off. Then, just when you think you've got a handle on the chaos, the rotation kicks in. One group is chilling at home while the other bunch is stuck on the floor running production. It’s a total revolving door.

Every single day, you’ve got two nurses spending half their shift just disinfecting everything in sight—it's relentless—and then, once the shift is finally over, they have to go through the whole process all over again to sanitize the entire place. It's constant.

Unlike you—since you’ve clearly already mapped out your entire escape route—my company could actually survive without a single order or delivery for at least 15 months... so, just curious, how long do you think yours could hold out?

Just so we're clear and you don't come swinging at me, I'm not saying this is *just* the flu, and yeah, take care of yourself and everyone else. But with all that "above average intelligence" you claim to have, it seems like you've forgotten where you actually live. It's easy for you to talk when you've got a secure job and, luckily, enough work lined up for the long haul, as you put it.

Now, try putting yourself in the shoes of someone with five kids who loses their job because of all this. No savings, living paycheck to paycheck on near minimum wage. For us—meaning the quarter or fifth of the population living right on the edge—we're definitely about to fall over it.

You're also ignoring the other side of the picture. You see it on the news all the time, but they diagnose maybe 100 people with cancer every day; lately, that's dropped to 10 or 20 because nobody wants to go in for checkups. Cancer mortality is around 50%, whereas this is around 2%—and even that might be an underestimate since we don't know how many people are infected if they aren't getting tested. We might save a few hundred lives now, only to lose thousands later because of missed diagnoses for cancer or other illnesses if this drags on much longer.

Joseph Taylor11 said:Excerpt:

- To actually serve the public, the order restricting travel from one's residence should have been drafted better. They should define residential areas based on former county lines rather than current ones. This means places like Miami, Kaštela, and Solin—including Podstrana—should be treated as one single unit. Similarly, Brač should be its own entity, followed by Trogir, Marina, Okrug, and Seget, then the Makarska Riviera...

There's no logic in trapping folks in villages of 80 people while everyone in Washington, D.C. can zip around freely. I believe this decision needs to be fixed and adjusted to reflect how people actually live.

This is something the Government, if not Congress, should handle, not FEMA. We're talking about limiting a constitutional right to freedom of movement. While such a measure might be justified, it has to follow proper procedure, and the decision could have gone into effect immediately.

The bolded part: Someone basically wrote out, almost word-for-word, what I’ve been sending in my emails (to a few specific addresses...).

I'm glad if this helps clear up these ridiculous inconsistencies—but you don't have to come over and sing on my balcony about it... 😛☕

Honestly, major props to you for sending this out. And seriously, huge respect to whoever actually had the guts to say that stuff right then and there. Everyone loves to point fingers and act like all of China went into total lockdown, but they’re conveniently forgetting that those strict quarantines were only happening in one or two provinces. The rest of the country was still grinding away just so everyone else could keep living their lives like nothing was happening.

Kenneth Jones70 said:Oh, come on, how could I not?

First off—I've been there too, dealing with a trashed apartment—and honestly, common sense dictates you just get out of a sketchy neighborhood.

It’s been over a week now—still shaking, and the kids are still waking up screaming in the middle of the night.

When are we all actually going to get tested if we've been around people who were positive? You know, the ones who didn't even show symptoms but only got flagged because someone else in their circle was feeling sick—then maybe we can start taking this flu threat seriously.

So, I'm guessing I was definitely exposed, but my immune system pretty much stepped up and handled business. It turns out—well, this is how the whole knot slowly starts to unravel.

I’m guessing the actual number of people carrying the virus is way higher—maybe even double what they're saying?

This testing thing is honestly the biggest load of nonsense ever.

So you're living with someone who tested positive, but you don't have any symptoms yet—well, they won't even bother testing you until you actually start feeling sick. Just great.

Honestly, having a test like that would be a total game-changer—you know, one that shows the percentage of people who test positive for the virus but won't actually end up getting sick. Plus, you could use those results to feel way more confident about being safe the next time around.

In the end, we’re basically building herd immunity through this whole mess—but everyone's just going to give the credit to the quarantine.

Some idiots in front of Target are handing out entry numbers to people, and then when you leave Target, you just hand the same number right back. It’s ridiculous—it's like handing someone a tray covered in germs.
🤣

And that little bit that sprays onto your hand—it's like it's not even there.

I can't even begin to process this. 👍 I honestly don't get why people are fighting so hard against increasing the number of tests. Like, seriously? And don't even get me started on our testing capacity. It’s absolutely mind-blowing that we only have three labs—counting both the government ones and private outfits—in the entire country capable of handling this. To make matters even worse, one of those three is currently sidelined because they're missing some essential equipment. It's a total mess.

Look, maybe we can’t squeeze in any more testing right now, but honestly? We can just spin that to sound better by saying we’re running at absolute max capacity. If we frame it that way, it sounds productive. Otherwise, it just looks like they’re dragging their feet on the job we’re all paying them to do.

It’s like people are totally ignoring the upside of that approach. If you actually find out how many people are infected right away—even if it’s just a rough estimate—you can get them isolated immediately. That’s how you actually slow the spread. Once you've got a handle on that, you can finally loosen up some of those suffocating restrictions so life can actually start feeling normal again.

Those little number cards they use at places like Plodin? Total mystery to me too. Like, seriously, why is it such a massive struggle to just track how many people walk through the door and head out? It’s not rocket science.

Honestly, they’re going to breeze right back into office. Once this whole pandemic mess settles down, everyone’s going to conveniently forget everything that happened before COVID. All the hard work from doctors, cops, and basically anyone trying to keep this ship from sinking under these impossible conditions? Yeah, the politicians are going to swoop in, take all the credit, and pose as the ultimate saviors of the American people. I really wish it didn't work that way, but let's be real—most people are already buying into the hype.

It explains why our healthcare system is such a disaster; we haven't built a single new hospital in what feels like forever. And all those research labs and hundreds of companies that got gutted—the ones that could actually be helping us right now—nobody is even going to remember them or ask what happened once this blows over. Just look at the media right now; it’s a total echo chamber. Seriously, I haven't seen a single news story that wasn't about the virus or some pathetic attempt to criticize their decisions for over a month.

Edward Fisher86 said:Has anyone living outside their municipality actually received a response yet?

Absolutely nothing. All we get from HQ are these endless PDFs detailing who gets which permit. I even tried poking around some news outlets to see if they’d cover this, but apparently, it’s way more "important" to report on the handful of people on ventilators—even when those people are literally telling the media how they're doing themselves—than to care about the thousands of us stuck in different cities waiting for answers. As if nobody outside the immediate area matters. 🙂

wiredotter89 said:So, according to your logic, someone who has been living and working in Washington, D.C. for quite some time, but keeps their official address somewhere on the Gulf Coast, isn't technically "in" Washington, D.C.? What kind of twisted logic is that if their actual goal is to restrict the movement of the population??

Exactly!!! 👍

I'd bet anything there are thousands—maybe even tens of thousands—of young people under 30 who work in major cities and have lived there for years. But because they’re stuck on temporary contracts or whatever, they only have a secondary residence listed. Now, they'll probably all be forced to move back to tiny towns filled with retirees.

It's just more proof that these decisions are being rushed through by people who haven't the slightest clue how life actually works in this country.