Posts by Steven Stewart3

Paul Rogers94 said:It can absolutely trigger psychosis in people who are already predisposed—it's definitely not for everyone. Basically, it's a hard NO for anyone with a family history of mental illness . Unless you're already in the middle of an episode, then there isn't much of a difference... 😵

Alright, let's get into this because people constantly mix these two up, and honestly, there's a massive difference between schizophrenia and psychosis! It’s not like they're the exact same thing, even though everyone uses the terms interchangeably. Think of it like this: psychosis is more of a symptom—a specific experience where your brain starts playing tricks on you, making things feel super real when they aren't—whereas schizophrenia is the actual clinical diagnosis. You can have a psychotic episode without having schizophrenia, but if someone has schizophrenia, they'll definitely deal with psychosis at some point. It's a huge distinction, so don't go tossing them around like they're synonyms!
Honestly, I feel like most people diving deep into the spiritual scene are just dealing with a bit of psychosis. It’s a different ballgame when you start seeing actual psychopathy or full-blown madness creeping in—that’s where things get truly heavy. But hey, I think most of us pretty much get what I mean, right?

bluemason3 said:I don't think they are; it’s just that growing mushrooms is illegal.

Theoretically, someone could monitor these conversations just to hunt for anyone growing mushrooms, but honestly, that seems like a massive waste of resources. Unless you're buying enough to suspect actual industrial-scale production or large-scale distribution, it’s pretty pointless.

It isn't an opiate. It's more like LSD in the sense that we're talking about serotonergic hallucinogens.

I wouldn't jump straight into using anything without knowing the subject matter better. Give yourself at least a few months to really dig in and understand what you’re deciding on. Make sure you look at it from all angles, not just the ones that sound good to you. Sites like Erowid are a solid place to start your research.

Also, if there’s any sign of personal or family history involving mental health issues linked to neurotransmitter hyperactivity—specifically manic episodes, psychosis, or indicators of schizophrenia—it's probably a no-go. The same applies if you deal with depersonalization, derealization, or more serious physical concerns like heart issues, blood pressure, or metabolic problems. Better to steer clear.

Haha, well, if I'm being totally honest, I definitely fall into that ADHD category.
I guess we'll see! I'm feeling pretty good right now, even when I take a little bit and it hits me a bit hard.😵

Paul Rogers94 said:It’s incomparable to any other psychedelic. LSD is more of a straight line—a steady state—whereas fungi are a full-blown rollercoaster of intense experiences (they have this incredibly distinct internal rhythm). They can punch right through you into genuine spiritual territory. My take? It’s easily the greatest thing ever; it's like a massive reservoir of pure knowledge. After a 'proper' trip, you walk away feeling like something actually *happened* to you for once in your life... and what happened is basically indescribable 😍. We're talking shamanic initiation vibes—everything from being swallowed by a serpent to experiencing total oneness... death and burial rituals leading straight into incredible bliss... It definitely isn't for everyone—as Terence McKenna says, Psychedelics don't work on Stupid People

Hmm, interesting stuff. Definitely sounds like it's time for me to go find some mushrooms.🤣

Paul Rogers94 said:Exactly. And honestly, I'm not even sure if those substances are on the controlled list yet—you don't even need the dark web for this kind of thing.

Oh, they definitely are. Think about it: if the mushrooms themselves are illegal, then the spores are technically off-limits too. It's just like how cannabis seeds are treated under the law—it's all part of the same legal umbrella. That means ordering or having spores in your possession isn't just some minor slip-up; it can actually land you in real legal trouble.

Paul Rogers94 said:Basically, you just order a couple of syringes and clone the spores from the "product"—which means, theoretically, you've got an infinite loop going.

So how does that actually work though? Is it like an opioid, or more like LSD, or something else entirely?

bluemason3 said:I don't see why my list would matter to you, or how what works for me would apply to you (some items are based on specific blood work or health markers, some are tried-and-true favorites, and others are just new experiments).

Nothing illegal here.

Nature Made
Vitamin C
Zinc
Ginkgo Biloba
Grape Seed Extract
D Aspartic Acid
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Green Tea Extract Powder
L-Theanine
N Acetyl L Tyrosine
beta Alanine
Creatine Monohydrate
maca Powder
Inositol
Bee Pollen Powder
Chlorella
Taurine
Flaxseed Powder
Trimethylglycine Powder
probiotics
vitamin D
k3
bacopa
caffeine

Hey, it’s all good! I’m just asking, no need to get defensive. Most of this stuff can be ordered right at a local CVS. I actually heard some guys on YouTube mention that Maca Powder acts like a bit of a stimulant—kind of like a natural Viagra vibe, you know? And Taurine... mmm...😛
A probiotic wouldn't hurt either!😁

Paul Rogers94 said:Trading my psilocybin cubensis for some edibles. You can grow the spores yourself without any hassle; you could pick up a syringe in Vienna or just grab something on eBay.

Man, I don't know... the thought of the cops breathing down my neck totally freaks me out. I heard you can actually order spores (if that's what you call mushroom seeds?) online where you basically pay like two bucks for shipping and they send the rest for free from the Netherlands. Has anyone here actually tried doing that, or maybe someone else on the forums?
Trump would definitely go for it, but I'm stuck out here in Slough while you're probably hanging out in NYC, so it's just not worth the trip.

bluemason3 said:Yoga is pretty much useless, compared to the good drugs. 😁 It’s not just some stuff from America, and it’s certainly not just a bunch of plants. Most of it consists of much more tangible substances—though there are a few botanicals mixed in—and the benefits are pretty hard to ignore. 😛

I wasn't taking phenibut. Honestly, I’m not crazy enough to stockpile (pseudo)benzos like that.
I don't really get why Phenibut is such a huge trend right now. I guess for the alternative crowd, anything that doesn't require a prescription is automatically cooler. Personally, I don't see anything that makes it better than Xanax—I bought some once to try it out—but it seems to hit the stomach harder and builds a dependency way faster. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. 🤔
But that's beside the point. 😁

That division isn't exactly traditional, is it? I'm not sure if we saw anything like it before Swami Vivekananda.The terminology pops up, sure, but I haven't seen it framed as some kind of formal categorization in any of the traditional sources.) 🤔
At the end of the day, Hinduism is just pure chaos. There isn't a single tradition that stays consistent for more than one small group.

So, what did you actually order from that 10kg stash of yours? What kind of good drugs and heavy hitters are we talking about? Please tell me it isn't just some fiber supplements to help you poop better!😁
Give me a hint about what's actually worth it. Have you tried anything for staying wired? Like psychostimulants (Modafinil or something along those lines)?

neonmarlin39 said:If we’re talking about the classic way of splitting up yoga, it’s usually jnana, karma, and bhakti. It’s kind of like a triangle in certain systems—if you pull one corner away, the whole thing just loses its balance and falls apart.

But where does Raya or any system focused on the actual physical practice fit in—you know, stuff like concentration, pranayama, and all that?
In my book, Karma yoga is really about embracing suffering to chip away at the ego. To me, that's the ultimate goal of yoga anyway: totally crushing the ego. It’s not some "helping others" thing like Mother Theresa; I mean, sure, people need help, but they should go to doctors for that, not a karma yogi. Just my two cents, though!

Paul Rogers94 said:well, that's just Advaita for you—you've got more than enough material to work with if you look closely enough

It's like when someone's reading the Bhagavad Gita

Honestly, there aren't really any books out there specifically for the jnana yogi. On those days when I'm feeling totally dialed in and I spend my evening "self-medicating" with deep contemplation, my head gets so full of ideas I feel like I could write an entire book. And I'm not talking about that beginner-level fluff, either—I mean some heavy stuff, maybe even diving into alchemy... but then the next day, I'm literally shaking from fear because I opened up a certain corner of my psyche, and by the third day, I'm finally feeling steady again.
I'm a bit slammed right now, so let's catch up later!

bluemason3 said:Selling yoga fog 😁

Look, as long as you ordered about 20 pounds of various healing herbs from the States (I caught that in another PDF, by the way), that’s gonna help you just as much as any "foggy yoga" routine.
Just kidding... mostly! But seriously, did you pick up anything to help you chill out too?😁 Like some Phenibut or something?

neonmarlin39 said:Spot on.

Then you’ve got entire yoga systems that don't even bother citing the Vedas at all—like basically the whole Tantric tradition.

That sounds like total New Age nonsense to me. Just a complete misunderstanding of how the whole system works. You hear this kind of talk all the time in various Kundalini and Shiva yoga classes—whether the instructors realize they're doing it or not.😁

And yeah, Shiva yoga is straight-up trashbigly, as Donald Trump would say.😁

Paul Rogers94 said:Sure, it’s a bit muddled and unclear like this. You could list another hundred types of yoga if you wanted to, but an experienced devotee can see there are really just two fundamental paths or currents. I’ll just mention them now—and I might elaborate more later if I feel like it and decide it’s actually worth the effort, since this topic is the starting point for my Magnum Opus. They are:

Let’s call it Willful Yoga (which works with Prana and Kundalini): it stems from the idea that mental content is cluttered by sensory impressions. To control the mind, you have to control the senses, and vice versa. The foundation is sublimation (not suppression) of sexual energy (Virya) into mental energy (Ojas Shakti)—we raise the Kundalini to the Sahasrara, resulting in Nirvikalpa Samadhi. This requires breath control, dietary control, sleep control, and mastery over all other aspects of life. An adept of this path masters all levels of existence (Lokas), entering and exiting them at will...

And let’s say Sahaja yoga (so-called Natural Yoga, or the yoga of direct insight into the true nature of reality—meaning without the mediation of the senses or the mind). Much like Zen, it allows things (life) to simply happen without any willful interference. Every attempt at intervention is just an obstruction. You have no control over experiences, nor do you cling to them, just as you don't cling to anything else. This current has its own completely different dynamic, and the result is direct insight into the true nature of reality (Jnana). It is the most beautiful and miraculous path—pure bliss through non-attachment and devotion. It doesn't bargain; it doesn't demand you do "this" or "that" to get something. It is unconditional. It doesn't ask you to earn THAT, because you *are* THAT (Tat Tvam Asi)...

These are the only two ways to wake up from all the dreams.

Only by understanding these two currents can we make sense of everything else.

Everything else listed is merely a consequence of one current or the other. There is no third option.

I should note that this is just a very, very rough outline, as I am in no mood for any serious elaboration—especially not here, because that would be pointless.

So, basically, Raya yoga and jñāna yoga are the two big branches. Though, I gotta say, that sentence of yours is a bit of a contradiction:
" yoga of direct insight into the true nature of reality—without the interference of the senses or the mind"—I mean, how are you supposed to realize what is true or not without using your mind or your senses in the first place?
There aren't books written about this second type of yoga because it’s impossible to write anything coherent about it.
That being said, I think those two yogas you mentioned actually bleed into one another; you really need both. Also, you totally overlooked bhakti yoga and mantra yoga, which are vital (sometimes even essential) for moving forward, whether you like it or not.
Like Patanjali roughly says:
..bychanting sacred texts, one establishes a connection with their chosen deity...(bhakti yoga)
....through the repetition of pranava, God is revealed(mantra yoga)....

bluemason3 said:Kundalini yoga doesn't exist as its own distinct traditional school. At its core, any Hatha yoga—which is a Tantric derivative—is implicitly Kundalini yoga.

So, the label itself is pretty much meaningless, aside from being a marketing tactic.

Yoga Nidra is a modern invention based on Western relaxation techniques. That’s basically what most people are doing under that name. It emerged relatively recently from Kripalu Yoga (Kripalu Yoga), which is where someone like the widely known Swami Sivananda (who studied there and built his specific style of yoga, even though his own guru didn't focus on it at all) picked it up. While there is some dream work (milam) found in Tibetan yoga—specifically within Dzogchen traditions—it's much less common in Hindu traditions. The methods being practiced today under that name don't really have any connection to anything authentically Indian.

Raja (written as Raja in standard Sanskrit transliteration; reading it as "Raya" is incorrect) yoga is just a relatively recent (late colonial era) term for classical Patanjali yoga, often blended with later Tantric-Hatha traditions. This was largely the result of neo-Hindu attempts to codify and unify a bunch of disconnected Hindu traditions into one loosely coherent system during the era of "national awakening."

Either way, the yoga practiced under the name Kundalini yoga isn't anything special; it's no more "Kundalini" than any other style. It's pure marketing.

Okay, I hear you. If you caught my drift, I actually agree—repackaging these ancient divisions feels a bit like selling out yoga, but hey, it does provide a way to categorize different paths for people to understand them. Take Nada yoga, for example—using sound to reach a goal. Check out this link and tell me how you'd classify that using the old-school divisions? There isn't a specific name for it in the old texts, but today we call it Nada yoga, and I think that's perfectly fine.
I mean, maybe we'll see a "color science" yoga pop up next! I actually saw a segment on a show about using color for healing purposes the other day.

bluemason3 said:http://www.yogibhajan.org/main/

The term "Kundalini Yoga" is really just one more meaningless stunt pulled by some jet-setting guru.

Actually, I don't know if I totally agree with that, because you could pretty much say the same thing about a ton of different yoga styles! Like, think about Nada yoga, Nidra yoga, Shiva yoga, and all that. If we stick to that super "rigid" logic (no pressure, obviously!), then there are basically only a handful of yogas mentioned in the Vedic texts. But honestly, this newer way of categorizing things makes it way easier to grasp what’s actually going on. For instance, Kundalini yoga is kind of similar to Raja yoga, but when people talk about Kundalini yoga, they’re mostly focusing on that specific process of moving the Kundalini upward. With Raja yoga, you’re looking at the whole package—the Yama, Niyama, Pranayama, and everything else. In the world of Kundalini yoga, it’s usually assumed that those other aspects are already checked off and good to go!

bluejackal2 said:You're just talking nonsense! This has nothing to do with the topic at hand!

Well, clearly we aren't on the same page, so I'm out. Peace!

Jose Ward4 said:Yeah, exactly. The guy isn't just playing games when it comes to any of this.

It’s not about being dramatic! It’s more that I just feel bad seeing someone spend their entire life living such a miserable existence. Look, I’ve definitely been through my fair share of rough patches, but I’ve always stayed resilient, kept my head on straight, and made sure to stay classy through it all. That's how I moved past everything.

bluejackal2 said:But you basically said nothing, like, even if you're constantly doing deep breathing exercises or pulling off some other miracle, nothing is going to touch it unless you take antipsychotics (the pills)!

Whoa, hold up—what "legendary pranayama"? I just said people should breathe through their noses consciously whenever they can! It’s simple science: nose breathing actually nourishes your brain. If you're mouth-breathing, you aren't getting nearly enough oxygen into your lungs (and let's be real, we all know where most of that air ends up when you breathe through your mouth instead!), so you end up totally drained. Your immunity tanks, and then everything just falls apart—your health, your goals, your relationships—and suddenly you're spiraling into depression or anxiety, and then people start labeling it as schizophrenia.

Just to be clear, I’m talking about the milder forms of the condition.
My brother was telling me the other day that a lot of people dealing with schizophrenia are actually super chill, clever, and genuinely kind-hearted. Honestly, if you have that kind of foundation, you've already got a massive head start on recovery.

bluejackal2 said:My uncle plays guitar in a local band and sings, so I don't go around telling anyone about his playing because I honestly don't know anything about it. It's probably better for you to keep quiet about the schizophrenia too, because regardless of having two psychiatrists in the family, you don't really have a clue what you're talking about.

What I was getting at earlier was really just referring to those milder forms of schizophrenia.

Nicole Barrett76 said:You have a much better shot at finding the right treatment through a partnership with a psychiatrist than you do at winning a week's worth of millions on a lottery ticket.

Man, I totally get where you're coming from. It feels like those meds actually stunt your growth—not just physically, but emotionally too. Like, they stop you from really leveling up and becoming a man because they're packed with all these toxins. It reminds me so much of how our parents used to lecture us when we were kids, telling us to stay away from cigarettes because we wouldn't grow tall. It's basically the exact same vibe.