electricviper23 said:Personally, I don't find this contrary to business principles at all, because it comes down to the decision to provide a loan and the specific terms under which that loan is granted. If a corporation is doing exceptionally well—liquid, solvent, and perhaps working with a business partner who wants to borrow funds to invest or simply to survive due to temporary unpaid receivables—and those partners have shown mutual support and understanding for years. For instance, maybe that partner didn't call in a promissory note while the other was late on payments or paying outside of terms, etc. So, Xy situation... why shouldn't this one lend money without interest? On the contrary, it is business culture. It harms no one, and it contributes to something positive. Economics is economics, capitalism... whatever you want to call it. But again—behind every bit of capital, there are people. People who work and create, who sacrifice and survive. And therefore, it seems absurd to think this contradicts any principles, let alone the ones you listed. At least in my view.
This line of reasoning from the tax authorities makes absolutely no sense to me. I see no connection between those two actions... everything in business can be viewed strictly through the lens of corporate income tax, so they can't just manipulate it. What on earth does a corporation's purpose for taking out a loan have to do with lending money to someone else?! One might be relevant during a specific period of operations, while the other applies under totally different conditions and timeframes... I'm getting a bit worked up now, sorry, but I suppose I'm too highly educated to stomach this lack of logic😁🍿
Try walking into a Chase branch and asking for an interest-free loan; you will quickly see how they respond. I am not saying I agree with capitalism—heaven forbid—but it is currently the economic system we all inhabit, and its fundamental mechanism involves accumulation and the creation of surplus. Corporations are established specifically to operate, earn, and generate excess. While lending money without interest is theoretically commendable, it isn't in the spirit of capital formation. Even if you decide to give something away as a gift, the government will protect its interests and say, "Fine, go ahead and gift it, but I still want my cut of the sales tax and corporate income tax." At the core of the matter, whenever a corporation is formed with a specific owner, it must be understood that that individual is not the sole owner. If one looks realistically, the state effectively holds at least a 50% stake in that entity. This is because more than half of what an entrepreneur earns will eventually go to the government through various taxes and contributions. The state is essentially protecting its own equity, its sales tax, and its income tax... in essence, its share in the business.
electricviper23 said:Personally, I don't find this contrary to business principles at all, because it comes down to the decision to provide a loan and the specific terms under which that loan is granted. If a corporation is doing exceptionally well—liquid, solvent, and perhaps working with a business partner who wants to borrow funds to invest or simply to survive due to temporary unpaid receivables—and those partners have shown mutual support and understanding for years. For instance, maybe that partner didn't call in a promissory note while the other was late on payments or paying outside of terms, etc. So, Xy situation... why shouldn't this one lend money without interest? On the contrary, it is business culture. It harms no one, and it contributes to something positive. Economics is economics, capitalism... whatever you want to call it. But again—behind every bit of capital, there are people. People who work and create, who sacrifice and survive. And therefore, it seems absurd to think this contradicts any principles, let alone the ones you listed. At least in my view.
This line of reasoning from the tax authorities makes absolutely no sense to me. I see no connection between those two actions... everything in business can be viewed strictly through the lens of corporate income tax, so they can't just manipulate it. What on earth does a corporation's purpose for taking out a loan have to do with lending money to someone else?! One might be relevant during a specific period of operations, while the other applies under totally different conditions and timeframes... I'm getting a bit worked up now, sorry, but I suppose I'm too highly educated to stomach this lack of logic😁🍿
If we are talking about different periods, then fine: first pay back your own loan, and then lend from your surplus. However, if you are simultaneously taking out a loan with tax-deductible interest and then lending that same money interest-free to other companies, you are effectively stealing a slice of the government's cake, as you are reducing the profits that rightfully belong to the state. I am unsure what you find illogical about that. It is similar to other legal precedents in the tax code; for example, you cannot claim tax-deductible depreciation on an asset that does not, or cannot, generate sufficient revenue, even if it is being used. You cannot simply gift items from your inventory unless they are given to partners from whom you expect a significantly greater economic benefit "tomorrow" through the purchase of those same products... and so on.