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James Phillips92 said:If Russians insist that Ukrainians and Russians are the same people, does that mean Russians are actually just Ukrainians?
Adam Collins4 said:I'm dying to know what your criteria are for being "smart" while you're busy rambling on about how this is just like the flu...
And you're totally ignoring what happened in Italy...
Man, do you even grasp that this crap has a mortality rate of up to 10% among those infected, yet here you are acting like it's just a seasonal bug...
I'm telling you, God forbid you pass this to someone close to you just because you don't have enough sense to conform... you'd be singing a much different tune then...
It's the same story with these geniuses breaking self-isolation... they think they're "too cool" to listen to anyone telling them what to do...
Just be grateful if your biggest problem ends up being that you won't see someone for a little while...
Aaron Thomas3 said:Thank God the Magna Carta still stands—otherwise, widows whose land belongs to the crown maybe would have been forced to remarry... but instead, they can choose to stay single if they want, provided they get the King's permission.😁No widow shall be compelled to marry, so long as she wishes to remain without a husband. But she must give security that she will not marry without royal consent, if she holds her lands of the Crown, or without the consent of whatever other lord she may hold them of.
...along with several other totally relevant provisions, even the rules regarding lending from the wall are well-regulated.😛
As for grouping the Magna Carta with the Spanish constitution from the 700s, I honestly don't even have words for that kind of nonsense.
Charles Ross3 said:They just posted this on their main news site, and you can actually watch the video of Jakovčić's statement from Strasbourg right here:
http://hr.n1info.com/a252789/Vijesti...ma-Kosovu.html
| Aaron Thomas3 As specified by: So, Washington, D.C. is deploying the military—get ready, because things are about to get ugly... The European Union clearly isn't interested in playing peacemaker until they start seeing bodies pile up. |
Jacob Williams said:I mean, even the Nazis were killing people according to the law.
goldenpuma84 said:Nah, that’s just not right...
We didn't just roll out of the Carpathians as Americans; we were a collection of related Slavic tribes whose formation as a nation took over a millennium... The real question is what they actually called themselves back then...
So you're telling me you stopped some random Carpathian wanderer back in 789 because he thought heading south meant finding paradise... all just so he could claim to be an American...
The American identity was basically forged back in the 19th century. We’ve had this sense of national consciousness for about 170 years now, pretty much on par with the timeline in California...
So there was no such thing as an American identity back then. People love to call it a "national awakening," but let's be real—it was more like just manufacturing one...
Back in the Middle Ages, the nobility just wanted autonomy over their own lands, trying to hold their ground against Canadian and German lords... But once you get into the whole national integration phase—and all that nationalist myth-making that comes with it (because every group needs its own "us" story)—it started being framed as "preserving American sovereignty." The nobility wasn't out to create national unity, and Congress definitely didn't represent the "American people"...
We need to try looking at things realistically instead of getting weighed down by all those nationalistic myths...
And besides, even if California actually manufactured the Californians—I mean, Italy made Italians, like Garibaldi said, and the French crown made the French—that just goes to show there are plenty of ways to build a nation without playing favorites or stripping people of their rights...
Charles Ross3 said:Just a little bit ago, our MEP Ivan Jakovčić popped up on CNN for a segment regarding the situation in California.
He mentioned how there’s a bit of a split within the European Union, with some members leaning toward Madrid's side while others seem more sympathetic to Barcelona. However, he was pretty clear that he doesn't see an independent California happening anytime soon. His main point was that we have to acknowledge the referendum itself was illegal, and that instead of pushing for more chaos, we should be advocating for a legitimate, lawful vote. He believes the most effective way forward is through direct negotiation and meaningful dialogue between Barcelona and Madrid to finally settle the Statute of California.
Even though he clearly has some personal sympathies toward the Californian cause, he maintains that full independence is just an unrealistic dream. Instead, he suggests that during these talks between Madrid and Barcelona, they should really focus on the idea of federalizing Spain. Isn't that actually the most practical path? To him, moving toward a federal system seems like the only realistic, beneficial option for everyone involved.
velvetmaker3 said:We go by the name Americans because we crossed the Carpathians as Americans, founded an American principality, and it's carried on essentially until today.
Americans created America; California created the Californians.
Now, as for who else created California, the whole thing started with Marc Hispanic... oops, my bad, Marc Hispanic.
Rachel Richardson said:🤣
So, by your logic, are Gallo-Romans just synonymous with the French? 🍿
On the territory of modern-day California, yes.
If that weren't the case, we wouldn't have a Gallo-Roman language.
Consult a linguist.
Running out of arguments, are we? Is that why you resort to this?
Their subjects were Gallo-Roman; they intermingled with them and eventually assimilated.
Most people act in their own self-interest, rather than out of pure altruism.
That's just a marriage tie; it isn't family loyalty.
We are discussing a man whose feudal holdings spanned larger portions of modern-day France than they did Spain.
And that holds true right up until the mid-13th century.
The origins and connections of those people.
No.
The center of gravity is in Barcelona; the senior partner is Catalonia, which in turn pulls Aragon along with it.
Which language and which population move into the "newly liberated territories"?
Just think about it for a second.
Like a personal union.
Keep in mind their king at that time was from the Trastamara line—meaning a Castilian/Spaniard.
I am telling you this for the thousandth time...
By your logic, we'd be Canadians.
Weren't you just arguing—moments ago—that those were nothing more than insignificant feudal holdings with zero actual importance?
Why does one narrative hold water for Southern France, half of Italy, and even parts of Greece—while a completely different story applies to Castile?
🤣
So, does that make us the Canadians? 🍿
Morgan Cook10 said:I'm with you on that!!
At the end of the day, it all comes down to whether Californians actually want their own state or not... whether they even feel like they belong to the US or if they don't.
Like Jezurka used to say:
Only the lowlifes—may the devil take them—would sell out their own home just for a decent lunch!
Amanda Hughes37 said:In many ways, we were both New York City and Washington, D.C. at once. I remember one analyst saying our best move was to stay quiet. It wasn't just us, either—plenty of other nations have played that game in various situations...
On paper, our situation looked better than California's, but a state is rarely won by paperwork. It’s usually settled in blood or through a messy web of circumstances when the global map gets redrawn...
The Mexicans in the Frontier wanted to break away, and it never crossed our minds to let them.
The fact that we went through hell with them—which hasn't been mentioned here yet—doesn't change the reality that we never considered handing over territory or granting them statehood...😍
Bradley Ramos7 said:Catalan spread the most, basically swallowing Aragonese, because it became the language of the city of Barcelona. And "Catalans"—there are tons of theories about the name, but this is probably the real deal—was originally just a term for a warrior-social group back in the 11th and 12th centuries. Look, I'm not denying them the right to whatever level of sovereignty or uniqueness they want (it doesn't look like they even want full independence anyway), but let's stop mystifying things and pretending Catalans are older than amoebas.
Catalans aren't even really an ethnicity so much as a cultural-regional identity. Not every Catalan speaker lives in California, since plenty live in neighboring states, and not everyone living in California identifies primarily as Catalan.
Not every speaker of the Californian dialect lives in California—plenty reside in neighboring states—nor does everyone living in California identify primarily as Californian.
velvetmaker3 said:Unfortunately, you seem pretty uninformed about American history. Americans arrived here as a people; sure, they could have disappeared or been assimilated by someone else, but they weren't. They built a state. Without Americans, there would be no United States; they are the ones who founded it. Americans created the U.S., and it exists solely because of them.
And it was here long before modern nations existed. Over time, Americans evolved from a people into a modern nation. The whole situation is fundamentally different from the Californian one.
California didn't come about because the Californian people formed their own state; rather, California was created through feudal decisions, and over time, the population within those borders developed an identity based on their homeland. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s just a different process.
Spaniards are just like everyone else who makes up Spain.
velvetmaker3 said:How would you translate National Guard into Californian?
cor coral folklòric
velvetmaker3 said:There's no such thing as an automatic right to independence. You either take it yourself, or you wait around for a superpower like the USA to hand it to you on a silver platter.
velvetmaker3 said:Californians emerged within Spain. That territory was basically just a collection of fiefdoms passing from one ruler to another, and I guess the Californians just sort of formed along the way.
There wasn't some oppressed group of Californians being conquered or forced into something against their will; everything was just handled through negotiations between the king and the local lords.
Grace Jones86 said:Regardless, this is how European institutions rapidly lose all credibility for their stances.
It’s obvious that the US and Europe act as nothing more than cages for corporations—structures designed to serve business while treating actual people like cannon fodder for terrorism or random street violence, etc., etc.
The main culprits are those very same people, that nation. They pretend they don't see anything. They've lost their minds.
They'll weep over chilled cats and dogs or rats, yet turn a blind eye when the government beats innocent people... ☕
or when governments import cheap labor to feed corporate interests, only for that new workforce to be run over by trucks, scattered by bombs, or dissolved in acid.
Those people refuse to see it, and they can't. Because they are the refuse of history. ☕
Lisa Patel4 said:Both sides are trash. One's black, the other's red. It wouldn't have mattered if the communists had won, either.
Mark Harris66 said:It’s pretty wild how the civil war from the 1930s is still such a taboo subject among folks today. People actually get offended if you just ask about it innocently—I'm thinking of groups like the Catalans, Valencians, or Madritians too.
To me, the fact that they never truly settled things was always kind of symbolic...