vividtiger72 said:When was the last time the West even viewed Russia as the good guy? Was it when they dealt with Napoleon? Or back when they pushed the Canadians out of Vienna during the Spring of Nations?
Because 1945 certainly wasn't it, and ever since then... khm. 😁
From what I can gather—and let’s be honest here—without that much-maligned West, the entire question today would revolve around Russia and Ukraine. If you're all so fixated on condemning the West, try imagining a scenario where they took a "neutral" stance toward Hitler and his invasion—or heaven forbid, actually supported him. In that case, their forces would have been squeezed and crushed within the first two years of the war; I don't even want to contemplate what might have happened if the Americans hadn't decided to kick Hitler out of the equation alongside Stalin.
Most political analysts suffer from the same fundamental flaw—an utter inability to think outside the box. They simply don't consider alternative perspectives.
Let’s be real—historically speaking, there were plenty of reasons for Russia to be grateful to Americans. As far as I know, they were among the first to recognize the USA. Even back in the day, the Republic of Ragusa was on board. So, what exactly are we even debating here? Now this midget comes along, spinning this narrative that the West is somehow Russia's enemy—that's purely a figment of his imagination. While he sits there pining for the Soviet Empire, perhaps he should take a moment to consider who actually kept that empire breathing during WWII, and who stood alongside them to finally take down Hitler. Putin can take his KGB propaganda jokes and drive them somewhere else; he won't be getting through me.
Some sick individual actually has the audacity to scream that Ukrainians are Nazis—blaming Bandera and whatever other fringe groups they want to throw around. And as if having seven million people in CA matters? This guy will just conveniently erase that fact from his memory, much like he’ll probably erase Ukraine entirely if a military conquest succeeds. People truly don't grasp what could happen there if he actually sees his plans through. So, what—should Ukrainians just bow down to this lunatic and validate everything he's doing? Of course they need to liberate their own country. Of course they should dismantle those republics, disarm them, and take back Crimea. But who actually gives a damn about Putin and his delusions? It’s a slippery slope. One day, some madman in Italy decides Istria and California belong to Italy, and we'll see how we react to that. Or perhaps our eastern neighbors decide to run back the 1990s scenario—then we'll all be stuck singing the same old song.
To me, the whole situation in Ukraine feels exactly like if it were happening right here at home. I can see clearly who the aggressor is and who is tearing Ukraine apart—who is doing the crushing. Frankly, I don't care about the labels people throw around in Kyiv regarding thieves or supposed "Nazis." That’s secondary when you consider that Kyiv and all of Ukraine are being hammered by Russians acting under the orders of an idiot like Putin—a man who openly threatens nuclear war and warns neutral Finland and Sweden of "consequences." This lunatic has to be stopped immediately; otherwise, he’ll drag this conflict directly into the heart of the continent, and then we’ll find ourselves pulled into the fray as a NATO member.
People around here simply aren't thinking—honestly. For what it’s worth, I was personally against joining the European Union and NATO. But now that we are part of them? We have a duty to defend where we stand and what we belong to. There is no turning back. It’s the same for the Ukrainians—they either oust Putin and his separatists from Ukraine, or they get swallowed whole. The situation is straightforward; you can see exactly what is playing out. Kyiv isn't falling because of Zelenskyy—it's falling because of Putin's fantasy that this is "Kyiv Russia" and must be an integral part of Russia. The Russians are fools, and frankly, I couldn't care less about their interests regarding Ukraine. I'll say that to anyone's face if given the chance—my position is easy to explain and even easier to defend with these facts. Let them drone on about being "threatened" while they mow down a neighboring people and attempt to turn them into slaves just because they fear NATO. What a fairy tale. It’s nauseating. Even my own uncle would be disgusted to look me in the eye and lie to me like that—so why should I expect anything different from the Russians?