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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
ironranger67 said:The truth is, Europe relies on the US because there’s simply no way to stand up to Russia without them.
If it weren't for that American security umbrella, the Russians would basically be doing whatever they wanted across Western and Eastern Europe—either through force or by infiltrating governments using oil and gas money.

So, for anyone who thinks Americans are the ultimate villains, just try imagining an American neighborhood where Russia calls all the shots through its local proxies. ☕

Sure, in some perfect little utopia, Europe would be completely independent and focused on its own interests, and Russia would just be a peaceful neighbor that doesn't try to exploit the fact that they have a massive military advantage over everyone else.
But that's just not how reality works.


And in that actual reality, Americans being in Ukraine isn't some threat to Russia...
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Alright, I’m feeling a little poetic tonight, and honestly, one of my fellow forum ladies got me thinking with that whole thing about the girl 😬

So, picture this: Russia and Ukraine were in this intense, long-term relationship for years—walking hand in hand, going out to fancy dinners, the chemistry was just off the charts...

But then, a crisis hits, and suddenly Ukraine starts questioning everything, wondering if Russia is really the right partner for her. He’s a good guy, sure, but he’s also pretty controlling over a lot of things, and well, he was her first real love. She tells him she loves him, but she can't help but wonder if he’s being genuine or if he’s just playing her like all those other girls before her.

And you know how it goes—right in the middle of this relationship drama, this new guy swoops in. A total hunk of an American, incredibly handsome, loaded... promising her extravagant gifts, lifelong devotion, the royal treatment, and all the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

Ukraine, being young and a bit naive, falls head over heels for America, but there's still this lingering connection to Russia, making it so incredibly hard to just walk away after everything they’ve shared.

Russia, acting like a total macho man, senses something is off and realizes he's being cheated on.

He tries to convince her he’s the one, that he loves her, and that life is better with him. At the same time, he’s threatening America, telling them to stay out of his business and leave his girl alone, or things are going to get ugly.

Now Ukraine is totally torn; on one hand, there's that shared history and those sweet memories with Russia, but on the other, she’s drawn to America and that Hollywood shine—all these new experiences she never got to try because her boyfriend wouldn't let her.

So this tension builds, and Russia gets increasingly aggressive trying to reclaim what he feels is his. When his tactics don't work, he loses his cool. Since he isn't quite sure he can take on America in a fair fight—because, let's face it, America is a powerhouse—he turns his frustration on Ukraine, beating her senseless just to make sure she never even dreams of being with anyone else, let alone America.

Man, it’s actually pretty tough to decide who a jury would ultimately blame for all those injuries... hmm. 🤔

P.S.

My apologies to the ladies on the forum; I am strictly against any kind of violence toward women!☕


But in geopolitics, there is no "judge"—there's just the three of them. That's one flaw with using analogies.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Keith Williams3 said:So you're saying America isn't a legitimate country just because some people skipped the vote back in '91?
If we’re going to get pedantic about legal technicalities and legitimacy, then no government on Earth would be valid. You guys who support Putin just grab at any tiny excuse to justify your views, without realizing how ridiculous you sound repeating the same nonsense over and over.


That's a bad comparison.

There’s a massive difference between choosing to boycott an election and being physically prevented from voting by the state.

If we can set up polling stations at American consulates in Germany or Canada, why didn't Ukraine do the same thing in Crimea or the Donbas?

Those people held Ukrainian passports before all this, and their citizenship stays valid regardless of what happens to the territory they live in. It's like how when Mexico lost Mexico, they didn't strip Mexicans there of their citizenship.

Here’s a hint: Ukraine didn't want those pro-Russian votes.

Basically, they pushed away a segment of their own citizens, so they aren't really representing "all of Ukraine."
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Jason Fox2 said:Wait, where did I even say that? I was just reacting to the idea that Ukraine might end up following the Chechnya route, honestly. I highly doubt Americans would prefer living under those conditions compared to how things are now.


Total misunderstanding of the situation.

The Chechens live how they want. It wasn't the Russians who forced Sharia on them; if anything, they were given actual autonomy, and the Chechens chose their own path. Sure, the Russians crushed the separatism, but they also granted them autonomy and stepped back from the region. Back in '89, Chechens made up maybe 60-70% of the population, but today they’re over 90% and live in an ethnically homogenous area.

Ukrainians will get that same choice eventually.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
William Anderson5 said:View on twitter

Italy and Germany were pushing back against kicking Russia out of SWIFT. Now, it looks like Italy is folding...

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them cut off the Russians by tomorrow...


Interesting. Will Europe actually be able to keep paying for gas?

Russia is still sending it—actually, they never stopped. Even during the worst crises, they always stuck to their contracts.

But if Europe stops paying, then they aren't holding up their end of the deal, which means Russia can't keep shipping it, right?

Fuel $13?
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Andrew Martinez8 said:You can't really offend Putin. He's a tough guy.🙂

Look, Russia shouldn't complain if other countries decide they want to join NATO. They ought to ask themselves why they aren't being embraced by Europe.
If they were acting normally, they'd have a great standing. But they aren't.
Will they ever change? I doubt it.


If you and I were neighbors and I bought three lions and brought them into my apartment, you’d call the cops on me for being a threat, right? Even though it's my own place.

On a global scale, there isn't a police force or a court system to step in; it's basically anarchy where might makes right. In that scenario, it's just us. We either reach an agreement, or we fight until someone wins.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Julius Caesar said:You're basically calling for genocide here.

Not surprising coming from a Putin supporter.


Does cutting off water supplies bother you?

The government in Ukraine cut off the water supply to people in Crimea back in 2014.
Just shutting off the water, closing a dam, or rerouting rivers is enough to trigger a war.

Russia had a legitimate reason to declare war way back in 2014, and it was totally legal.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Betty Murphy3 said:That is simply the thesis pushed by Vladimir Putin and all his Putin-esque counterparts across Europe. NATO is a defensive alliance; it hasn't launched military interventions without concrete cause. Look at the situation with Mexico—they moved against Mexico before any reaction took place, so what exactly did anyone expect?

The same applies to Putin. If he weren't a nuclear power, he would be getting hit hard right now, and everything he sent over would have already been sent back to Russia in the form of scrap metal and remains. Essentially, he is only protected by 6,000 warheads. Nothing else. That is why he is so arrogant—that is why he threatens everyone. An absolute idiot.

As for NATO, the idea that it was formed specifically to counter Russia is nothing more than a fiction peddled by Russophiles. It is an alliance that makes Europe strong and unified through cooperation with the Americans. Besides, the Russians have effectively isolated themselves from the rest of the world anyway. Even prior to this aggression in Ukraine, they were doing everything possible to drift away from global norms; now, through this invasion, they have beautifully demonstrated exactly where they stand. I have zero sympathy left for them. Wire and tanks on the border? Let them come. No one is defending Putin’s right to invade, but he will see exactly how that plays out if he tries. Europe is weak because it doesn't know how to respond in the only language people like him understands—and that is the core of Putin's problem. Let him threaten and push buttons; I’d threaten too if I were in his shoes. If necessary, I’d push them, too. Instead, we have this fool acting like a tough guy, as if he's the only one with access to the buttons. Everyone in NATO has buttons, Putin. Wake up from your winter slumber—winter is ending, little bear.


Ukraine has been fighting in Donbas since 2014, much like how Mexico acted in Mexico trying to stop separatism. It's the exact same thing.

And yeah, NATO was formed because of the Soviet Union. Russia had every right to expect that once the USSR collapsed, NATO would dissolve too. Or at least stop expanding toward their borders.

It’s just unacceptable.
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William Anderson5 said:So, what, are we supposed to just live our lives according to Putin's threats now?


Who exactly is this "we" you're talking about?

It's not like we're Sweden or anything.

The truth is, we were basically tricked into joining NATO without even getting a say through a referendum.
I don't love being part of NATO, but there are two silver linings here.

We aren't bordering Russia, and we aren't the USA either. If things ever actually go nuclear, we probably won't be the primary target.

At worst, it would just be our soldiers stationed on the Russian border who pay the price.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Betty Murphy3 said:True, but Europe's goal is to become independent from both Russia and the US. The priority is energy—we need to build out other options specifically because of this Russian nonsense. We can't just rely on a single supplier; over the next decade, we might deal with Russia solely on energy matters, but everything else is off the table. However, the entire EU and America must develop alternatives to their gas, oil, and everything else we import. Everyone needs to maintain a unified foreign policy on this issue—which is a tall order, making it feel like a bit of a utopia. Once this situation in Ukraine settles, Russia will likely remain the primary supplier. This whole mess is just proof that we shouldn't rely on them—especially when they are led by such unpredictable, small-minded figures.


But honestly, that's just talk. Even right now, gas from Russia is flowing. We're literally at war and dealing with sanctions, yet the gas keeps heading toward Europe.

Russia has never actually cut off the gas or coal. So, it's not really being used as a political weapon.

Still, I get it—having more than one option is always better. You can never have too many choices.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
Jeremy Peterson4 said:It's not like we're living in the Stone Age where you don't have the freedom to pick your own partners.
Look at how Mexico is partnered up with Russia. By that logic, NATO should just roll in and launch a military intervention in Mexico because, hey, they're right on the border. It's honestly a joke.


NATO intervened in Mexico back in '99 and ended up taking a chunk of their territory.
The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1) in War in Ukraine ·
William Anderson5 said:Can you give me one good reason why Scotland would actually do that?

I don't know if you caught the news, but Russia just invaded a neighboring country. It makes total sense that Sweden and Finland would step up now.
Why on earth would Scotland just decide to team up with the Russians out of nowhere?


England took over Scotland back in 1707.
If Russia invades Ukraine now, we'll probably be seeing if Ukraine wants to break away from Russia in the year 2337.