Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5
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wiredtiger8 said:And let's be real, the Ukrainians are also exaggerating a bit with these fuzzy numbers.
Look, it's clear the Russians are taking huge losses, but...
William Burns (head of the CIA) said yesterday that the Russians have about 15,000 dead, and that the Ukrainians also have "significant losses" (that's how he put it).
Now, if you apply even a shred of common sense and logic here, I'd say the CIA might be inflating Russian losses just a touch while downplaying Ukrainian ones (which are definitely significant, mind you)...
Personally, I’d love to see some actual data from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense regarding their own human losses. I mean, they should have those numbers, right? But they aren't publishing them—they're guarding them like state secrets... all we know is that they are "significant." (allegedly, according to the CIA).
In Russia, as of July 15th, they had recorded roughly 4,760 soldier burials specifically related to the conflict in Ukraine—meaning documented individual cases.
I believe the DNR announced back in May that they had around 2,600 dead and about 8,000 wounded.
As for the LNR, I don't think they released anything.
So, when you factor in the ones that will never be found or those buried in Russia without being reported in the news, I’d say current estimates are actually pretty reasonable, maybe even a bit conservative.
And honestly, it makes total sense why foreign nations wouldn't publish their own casualty counts.
EDIT: Of course, neither side is counting people like Wagner Group members in these totals.