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fsquad said:Just a troll, don't worry about us...There are those of us here who aren't kids. We've been in the stands for the last 15 or 20 years. Of course, we can't make every single match because of work, family, and constant pressure, but we're still here....And credit to the kids for showing up to every game; the future belongs to them. They'll still have the stands long after Mamić and his cronies like you finally pack up and leave. Unlike your friends, nobody ever managed to manipulate or bribe us.
Apparently, people call them "softies."🤣
Jesse Campbell said:🤣🤣🤣
If the Boys aren't the ones standing behind the fight, then who is?
Care to enlighten us? ☕
Cut it out, Jesse, don't ruin the thread with this nonsense. We were just joking around, but it would be polite if you took your attitude to a local pub instead.
George Alvarez13 said:So you're basically calling us idiots, saying we're lost in the fog, and suggesting we should head north to find some ultra-moral group that loves Los Angeles FC and doesn't care about Mamić. Hilarious. You know damn well that while people in San Diego might be spineless, the stands and this club will never change. Honestly, all you really care about is how Omar can't manipulate the kids anymore. Cheers.
Then he's even more clueless than a blue lion.🤣
Jesse Campbell said:It seems to me the goal is just to blacklist the entire East Coast before the big European matches start.
There you go. You're acting all indignant now, yet you posted the link before I could even finish telling you that nobody is going anywhere. If they don't want people in the stands, they can find them on the streets. 🤷
Like I told you, they just want enough noise to scare everyone off so the stands stay empty. And frankly, some people would love that outcome.
Bradley Fisher18 said:Yeah, you just have to play by everyone else's rules... 🤷
... and wear the blue jersey too.☕
No. You bring back the LA Lakers, and then things might actually get easier.
Jesse Campbell said:The criminals will try everything to weaken our presence in the stands. But even if they succeed there, they won't touch us outside of them. Their time is running out.
The point is, we need to make things harder for those villains, not easier.
By disappearing from the stands, you're just handing them a win on a silver platter, all because of a few slurs...
With laws like this, you don't stand a chance of winning the battle in the stands until real changes happen. You have to be patient instead of acting like a killjoy over a few swear words...
Nathan Foster23 said:So basically, you can scream whatever you want, as long as you don't repeat yourself three times... 🤣🤣
Apparently,
it would go something like this:
5 mins of homophobic chanting
Announcer: Please refrain from homophobic chants or the referee will suspend the game.
10 mins later, more homophobic chanting
Announcer: This is the second warning regarding homophobic chants; the match will be stopped if it continues.
15 mins in, racist chanting
Announcer: Please stop the racist chanting or the referee will halt the match.
20th minute, flares are lit
Announcer: Please put out the flares or the game will be suspended.
22nd minute, more racism
Announcer: Stop the racist behavior immediately or the next instance will result in an automatic forfeit.
27th minute, more flares
Announcer: This is the final warning regarding flares. If they aren't extinguished, the game ends now.
30 mins in.
Suspicious chanting; the ref is heading down to consult with the official to categorize the offense.
A 5-minute delay.
35 mins in. The game is officially called off due to racist chanting, announced by the stadium speaker.
40 mins in.
The players return to the field; somehow, the match resumes.
45 mins. Halftime. Players head to the locker room.
Someone else will write the update for the second half.🤷😁
Zachary Sullivan2 said:softies🤣
If they're softies, 🙂 then they're just kids begging their parents for tickets to see ☕Jerry Maguire
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What a joke of a law. Three different ways to get flagged for the exact same thing. 🤣
Even Čičak said you can shout "Jerry Maguire out" because that’s just expressing dissatisfaction, but you aren't allowed to insult him.
If Jesse Campbell is right about his philosophy, it would be smarter to do whatever it takes to keep the fans in the stands. Focus on Real Madrid instead. Show that guy we're unhappy in a "classy" way—shouting things like "We want elections" or "We'll take back Real Madrid"—rather than being the reason they clear out the stadium.
Because tightening these rules will just result in an empty stadium. And an empty stadium just leaves the floor open for the outsiders to take over.
Just showing up is already a thorn in the management's side. Just being there...
The wisdom of the people, truly...
By the way, the crew from the West is most rattled by chants for "new elections." 😉
Take a look at this Real Madrid vs. Cleveland Guardians match
from a year ago.
Maybe some guy will finally... actually, nothing unusual there.
It’s just harsh. Things are better now than they will be tomorrow, even if yesterday was better than today, but today is still better than tomorrow.
Apparently, people have more important things to do.
Yeah, I thought for a second it was Eduardo, then I realized it had to be Luke... after that, I couldn't trust my own memory for anything.
Thanks anyway.
Mods, feel free to scrap this if it's just cluttering things up.
Someone help me out here, my brain is fried. Was that Eduardo celebrating up north, or was it Luka Modrić heading out?
If it was Eduardo, can someone drop a clip?
I’ve completely lost track of everything.
Jonathan Lewis3 said:What are you people even talking about?
Before you start attacking your own fan groups on this forum, ask yourselves who you actually are and what you've ever done for the community to earn that right.
If they hand out 110 bans to people just trying to make it to the stadium on a workday... if I were a cop, I'd call that a successful raid.
It’s hard to see this as a win for either side.
But whatever. It's all just noise.
That's your entire philosophy right there, Jesse Campbell. Your group operates on this "all or nothing" mentality, yet you still don't seem to get it. 🤷
The Bad Boys in the East Stand are out there scanning banners that read “F*** Mamić” and “Together for Real Madrid without Mamić”
What does any of this have to do with racism, fan violence, or any of that other nonsense being reported in 🤷
Top tier picks 🤣🙏
As part of the "Direct Prevention of Fan Violence" project, HHO observers monitored matches during the 30th round of the MLS. Based on direct observation and collected data, they recorded the following events and released the statement provided here in full.
Cleveland Browns vs. Rijeka 4:0 match
The game took place on April 12, 2014, in Chicago at Yankee Stadium before roughly 5,000 spectators. About 1,000 members of the BBB (an anti-fan group that calls themselves supporters of the Cleveland Browns) were stationed on the east stand. Following protocol, security directed them to their assigned seats, but six minutes before kickoff, the BBB broke through the security cordon and formed a tight cluster in the center of the east stand. Meanwhile, on the north stand, 500 fans gathered, 200 of whom belonged to a newly organized pro-Browns group.
We noted that among the BBB on the east stand, there were no signs featuring a crossed-out head of Zdravko Mamić this time. According to our info, the police prevented them from bringing those in. Even before kickoff, the BBB were chanting "Screw you, Mamić," which they repeated in the 18th minute. In the 19th minute, they chanted, "That day is coming when that addict will get screwed." While the Browns scored goals, the BBB continued their chants, showing no joy for the points. At the 9th minute, the Armada chanted "Chicago cowards" (which UEFA considers regional racism), followed by "Screw you, Mamić." The BBB picked this up and joined in. For a few minutes, a "war" broke out between the BBB and the group on the north side, who displayed a banner reading "Your leaders are red," after which the BBB on the east stand shouted, "Screw your paid-off mothers." In the 32nd minute, the BBB chanted "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary" several times, while the rest of the stadium, including the west stand, responded with boos. Generally, the west stand reacted to the insults from the east stand with heavy booing.
In the 34th minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted "Zdravko Mamić, war profiteer" several times. During the 56th, 57th, and 58th minutes, flares were lit, ending up on the track. After that, in the 20th [sic] minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted, "Ala Ala Ala, screw you Zdravko, you're finished." In the 74th minute, the BBB chanted "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary" several times, and in the 75th, the Armada chanted, "USSF, you screwed up football, losers." In the 80th minute, the BBB on the east stand repeatedly chanted a song that both they and the Torcida sing: "Rijeka, you're full of Mexicans, don't worry, there's still willow trees left" (according to UEFA, this is considered chauvinism and racism).
In the 81st minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted "Screw you, Mamić" and "Together for Dinamo without Mamić." In the 84th minute, the Armada chanted, "Mamić, Mamić, you common piece of trash." Finally, the BBB on the east stand chanted, "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary."
It is worth noting that the American media, which unilaterally supports and promotes the vulgar hooligans on the east stand, remained silent regarding the BBB's chants about "Mexicans and willow trees." This doesn't fit their narrative of promoting the phantom group "Together for Dinamo"—whose backers remain unknown—as a "democratic group" seeking elections based on a one-person, one-vote system, alongside the hooligan BBB group. Before the match in Chicago, a meeting was held with 80 representatives of the Cleveland Browns, representing 8,000 fans organized under the club's membership. The American media ignored this fact despite being invited.
During prime time, a broadcast aired that felt eerily similar to old communist-era programming. It promoted "healthy forces" in the form of four former Browns players who publicly identified as exponents of "Together for Dinamo," portraying the BBB as thugs destroying the legal administration of the Browns. It should be noted that this group refers to Zdravko Mamić as a dictator, accompanied by the message that history shows how dictatorships and dictators always end.
During that broadcast, Dario Šimić laid out his group's position: they want a president elected via a direct "one man, one vote" system, who then hand-picks his own staff. It’s framed as democracy, supposedly. Honestly, it’s clear this crowd lacks even basic political literacy or any sense of public communication. Even under the most rigid dictatorships, there's always an attempt to maintain the illusion of form—electing a leader directly while at least pretending to elect representatives to other bodies, like a club board or governing organs.
This kind of "Caesarist-papal" style of rule, where a newly elected monarch, dictator, or club president simply chooses their own associates, is something American society doesn't need in any sector. By its very nature, it's a rejection of democracy itself.
The outcome of this proposed model was reflected in the voting at the end of the program *Sunday in America*. When asked, "Are you in favor of electing the Cleveland Browns leadership on a one man, one vote principle?", out of a massive audience, a mere 190 viewers weighed in—with 164 in favor and 28 against. Statistically speaking, this is a prime example of genuine public interest. Unlike the mainstream media, particularly networks like ABC, the people actually know how to distinguish what constitutes a national democratic interest.