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silentnomad7 said:Just a year ago, you were all shouting about how mandatory experimental COVID vaccines for kids were the only way to go, but now here come the new waves and winter is right around the corner... so maybe you'll want to revisit that topic again soon, eh?

I still have faith in the experts,

though I honestly can't see how any of that connects to this discussion regarding sanctions against Russia and

unless you're just trolling at this point, which seems to be your only move left.🕺

p.s.

They say taking a walk out in nature is incredibly healthy and helps clear your head.
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Nancy Gomez26 said:I agree. Since I’m still capable of working, I need to set something aside for the inevitable approach of old age. Hoping that the Department of Employment will provide a decent pension is like hoping Putin will suddenly realize his own stupidity and withdraw from Ukraine tomorrow. Personally, I wouldn't keep my hard-earned savings in a bank. When you put money in a bank, it isn't really yours anymore—it belongs to them. They decide if, when, and under what conditions they actually pay you back. You're essentially living at their mercy. That’s why investing in real estate, land, gold, or silver—something tangible—is a smarter move than simply gifting your wealth to a bank. But that's a conversation for another time...

And that is exactly what we are doing.

I actually managed to pick up a little something on those yellow tiles

But you can't turn everything into bricks and mortar; it gets a bit awkward when you're just trying to grab a gallon of oil or fill up your tank and you find yourself lugging around heavy construction materials instead.

Oh well, if you're hauling bricks in your wallet and carrying oil home, you might as well get a double workout out of it.

😁

And as the saying goes, "Cheers to the sanctions."

The one thing I am truly looking forward to, just to make life a little easier, is when Krule and the new Liver
can finally give us some clarity so I don't have to constantly wonder about the casualty counts—how many Russians died versus Ukrainians, and how many civilians, women, and children were lost.🤣🤣

Because I can't keep watching Severina and 🙂
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rowdytiger13 said:That same Janet Yellen actually tried to resign right after Putin got hit with these sanctions, but he refused to let her go. He literally wouldn't allow her to step down in that moment and instead just extended her term.
After that, she cooked up the whole ruble payment scheme and all those little maneuvers; when she gave the announcement, she was dressed entirely in black, so even the Russian media noted she looked like she was attending a funeral.
Sure, she's a brilliant woman who knows how to manipulate exchange rates in the short term, but in the long run, it's all just smoke and mirrors.

Well, if you say so, I guess it's settled.
Give it a few more days and the ruble will probably hit rock bottom.

p.s.

Just don't go mentioning what kind of tie you're wearing.🤔
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gentlerider7 said:Oh yeah, absolutely, since they're doing such a stellar job, why don't we all just ditch the dollar and switch over to rubles right now?

Hey, nobody is stopping you from doing that.☕
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gentlerider7 said:And I suppose on the Russian side, it's just a bunch of PhDs and economic geniuses sitting around waiting for them, right?😁

I’ve been hearing some chatter lately regarding the head of the Russian central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, and there are rumors floating around that Putin is paying her an absolutely astronomical salary—something in the neighborhood of 700,000 euros. It makes you wonder about the sheer scale of those kinds of figures when you think about the disconnect between official reports and what actually happens behind closed doors in the Kremlin.
It’s honestly almost impressive how she carries herself like some kind of financial mastermind, coming up with these elaborate schemes to pay in rubles and other various Russian financial scams. It really is quite something to watch her try to play games with PhD holders and top-tier global financial experts who actually know what they're doing.

I was reading up on Elvira Nabiullina today, and it really got me thinking about the immense weight placed on the shoulders of a central bank leader during times of such extreme global instability. It’s one thing to manage interest rates and inflation during steady economic growth, but it’s an entirely different beast when you’re tasked with navigating the fallout from massive geopolitical shifts and intense international sanctions. She has certainly become a central figure in how the economy responds to the ongoing tensions involving Russia and the West. You look at her career trajectory and see someone who has had to make incredibly difficult, high-stakes decisions that impact everything from daily consumer prices to the long-term stability of the national currency. It reminds me of those periods in American history where the Federal Reserve has had to step in to prevent total market panic—there's a certain lonely gravity to that kind of responsibility. I often wonder if leaders in her position ever get a moment to just breathe, or if they are constantly playing a high-speed game of chess against shifting global forces.

There’s this persistent idea floating around the Russian media that the head of their central bank uses the pins on her lapel at public events to drop subtle hints about the state of the economy or the regulators' next moves. It's almost like a secret language for those paying close attention. Back in 2020, I remember reading how Elvira Nabiullina would show up to press conferences wearing pins featuring blue waves, dots, or even little glasses—all seemingly coded messages. Then, in March 2021, right when they announced the first interest rate hike in three years, she made an appearance sporting a hawk pin. It makes you wonder how much of it is intentional signaling and how much is just fashion, but in a landscape driven by Kremlin propaganda, people are always looking for those hidden patterns.

Honestly, she’s acting exactly like Jaca. 🙏🙏

p.s.
Honestly, no matter where you try to run or how hard you attempt to dodge the consequences, there is just no escaping these sanctions. It feels inevitable, like being stuck face-down in the mud right along the waterfront promenade in a city like San Francisco. There's simply no way to avoid the mess this is going to create.
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darkdriver said:That kind of attitude goes hand in hand with being dishonest.
I’d bet anything that most of them—basically the whole crew posting here—are still living on their parents' dime. You know the type: Mom makes the morning coffee and lunch, Dad hands over the allowance, and they spend eight years straight studying... what, economics? (the irony is killing me). They probably do it just so they don't have to spend all day scratching themselves, and honestly, they're completely detached from reality.
If any of these people had ever actually paid a real bill—not just a round of drinks at a bar, but a mortgage or something—or if they actually had a kid to take care of, I bet they wouldn't be typing out such absolute nonsense on their keyboards.

It feels like my crystal ball gave me a fair warning about what was coming in my later years, so I took some cash and put it into "hard currency" at the bank, just so I'd have a cushion to pay for my coffee and my tech gear when things got tough.

Though, if I'm being honest, I feel like I've lost about $10,000 in purchasing power with that "hard currency."
Luckily, I picked up some "gold bullion"; people say the price is trending upward.
My daughter used a bit of credit and some savings to buy a new apartment, arguing that, much like back in the old days, the safest bet is always bricks and mortar.
My son and I are also prepping, just hoping he can finish one more stint at work and pull in a few extra thousand dollars.

In a way, I'm starting to feel better about everything; it feels like the old ways are returning, and I've somehow become an even bigger fool than I was back in the old country.
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darkdriver said:That kind of attitude goes hand in hand with being dishonest.
I’d bet anything that most of them—basically the whole crew posting here—are still living on their parents' dime. You know the type: Mom makes the morning coffee and lunch, Dad hands over the allowance, and they spend eight years straight studying... what, economics? (the irony is killing me). They probably do it just so they don't have to spend all day scratching themselves, and honestly, they're completely detached from reality.
If any of these people had ever actually paid a real bill—not just a round of drinks at a bar, but a mortgage or something—or if they actually had a kid to take care of, I bet they wouldn't be typing out such absolute nonsense on their keyboards.


What really strikes me is the sheer bitterness and anger coming from the Germans right now.

They fight so hard and make such loud threats about not wanting Russian gas, yet the moment Gazprom cuts deliveries by 60%, they're suddenly miserable again. They're pointing fingers at Gazprom for the very reduction they spent months demanding, claiming it's nothing more than political blackmail.
https://hr.n1info.com/svijet/gazprom...nja-popravaka/

I truly can't wrap my head around it. Maybe it's some lingering nostalgia for the old days...
or maybe it's because I've been holding onto an iPhone 8 for a few years instead of having the latest 12 or 13...
without which apparently some people can't even find their way across the street.
I guess I'll have to wait for the younger generation, the ones wandering around with those massive smartphones the size of a tablet, to explain to me where I'm going wrong.

Oh well, I guess I've just grown old and become one of those grumpy old men who gets offended by age.
Quite a contrast to the youngsters who seem like they'll stay young forever, mostly because if they lose their phone, they'll just wander around aimlessly like Biden at the end of a speech.
https://hr.n1info.com/svijet/gazprom...nja-popravaka/

Maybe I should just buy a heavy-duty hiking backpack, like I used to use back when I was in the Scouts, just so I can fit that giant smartphone inside. Otherwise, I might run the risk of getting lost and never finding my way home.
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analogbear5 said:I just went through the official Kremlin narrative—straight from Vladimir Putin's own mouth. You quoted their line above. Whether you actually realize that or not doesn't really matter, but what you're reading lines up perfectly.

The Russian Federation President's addresses regarding:
- the recognition of the DPR and LPR on February 21: English, Russian
- the invasion of Ukraine on February 24: English, Russian

Thanks for playing spokesperson, but I’d rather just read kremlin.ru myself. Gotta go to the source.

I appreciate the links; I finally had a chance to see exactly what Putin said, though I mostly just stuck to the article in that first link.

Personally, when I want to brush up on historical events, I rarely find myself turning to specific political speeches—to be honest, I practically never do.

My go-to sources are usually things like encyclopedias, history books, or even Wikipedia if I'm in a rush.
To be fair, I don't really see the "horrors" you're referring to in that speech, because most of what he said seems to align with what I find in encyclopedias and other standard references. If you could point out specifically which parts you find so egregious, I'd appreciate it, as I'm having a bit of a hard time seeing the issue.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kievan-Rus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus

https://www.history.com/topics/european-history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan

And so on.
Since our main topic here is sanctions, let's pick a more relevant subject so we don't wander too far off-topic
and get back to discussing the Sanctions.
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analogbear5 said:That’s just the official Kremlin propaganda version. Give me the other side so we can actually compare.

It isn't some Kremlin narrative; I don't even follow Russian news outlets.

I provided a timeline based on what I see and shared my own perspective, and I'm certainly not being two-faced or acting like some hypocrite by hiding a "second version" of the truth.

If you want to be fair, it would be more decent of you to present your own side of things—and I mean starting from much earlier than just when the Russian military crossed into Ukraine, because the roots of this conflict go back much further than that.☕
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Bryan Booth82 said:The European Union stands as the largest gas importer on the planet, and before the Russian aggression against Ukraine kicked off, they were pulling a massive 45% of their supply straight from Russia.
It was a sweet deal for the Russians, providing them with an incredibly reliable and high-paying customer.

Now, the goal within the EU is to slash that 45% down to... absolutely zero.
Is that actually going to happen? Probably not in one fell swoop, but even now, we can see those percentages dropping steadily—and we’re seeing the exact same downward trend with oil and coal.

Because of all the market volatility, Russia is actually managing to rake in more money right now despite sending fewer resources, but let’s be realistic: we should fully expect their energy revenues to plummet in the near future.
When you factor in the sheer cost of this war and the crushing weight of other sanctions hitting the Russian economy, shouldn't we be bracing for major trouble ahead?
Best,

In the world of international trade, there’s really no such thing as a "fair" or balanced exchange where everyone walks away perfectly satisfied. If you look at how global markets actually function, you have to accept that the balance of trade isn't meant to be an even split; in fact, a nation's foreign trade balance essentially needs to be skewed. I remember reading an old economic treatise back when I was studying in Chicago, and it touched on this exact idea—that stability often comes from one side holding the advantage. For a country to maintain its economic momentum, its trade balance shouldn't just sit at zero; it has to lean in a specific direction to drive growth.
If you find yourself in a position where you owe someone money but your pockets are empty, I truly believe there's only one honorable way forward: you either find a way to borrow from someone else to settle that debt immediately, or you simply stop buying things altogether. It’s a tough lesson to learn, but I remember back when I was first starting out in Chicago, I tried to stretch my budget by putting everything on credit, thinking I could just make it up later. Eventually, the reality of those unpaid balances caught up to me, and I realized that once you compromise your word, you lose more than just money—you lose your reputation. There really isn't much middle ground if you want to maintain your integrity; you either make it right through other means or you tighten your belt until the situation stabilizes.

For a long time, Europe could essentially count on a steady, reliable stream of natural gas coming straight from Russia, all at contract prices that, looking back at today's market, seem almost laughably low. I remember sitting in my living room a few years ago, barely giving a second thought to the utility bill because everything felt so stable and predictable. We just assumed the supply would always be there, locked in at those incredibly cheap rates, never imagining how quickly that entire foundation could shift.
For a long time, Russia served as an incredibly lucrative market for goods coming out of Europe, and you saw so many major Western corporations dive headfirst into that landscape to build incredibly successful business models there.
It seems like someone finally decided that they, too, needed to join in on the shouting matches directed at Russia, coming all the way from Ukraine.
The trouble really started to spiral once Viktor Yanukovych was elected back into office following those several shifts in leadership. It was right after that pro-Russian pivot that things fell apart, leading to all those protesters setting up camp at the Maidan and the eventual forced removal of Yanukovych from power.
When Russia established its naval base in Sevastopol, they responded by annexing Crimea and stepping in to support the rebels in the Donbas region—an area where about 90% of the population supported Viktor Yanukovych and refused to recognize the coup that took place during the Maidan protests.
Following a brief but devastating conflict that claimed the lives of roughly 11,000 people in the Donbas region, a ceasefire was finally established. This led to an agreement reached in Minsk, which stipulated that the Donbas would be granted a significantly higher degree of autonomy.
The authorities in Kyiv never actually intended to follow through with the Minsk agreements; instead, from 2014 onward, they’ve been quietly preparing to use military force to retake the Donbas, all while working closely with the West to ensure the region falls back under the control of a newly established, pro-Western government.
During that period, there was a massive buildup along the borders near the Donbas, with roughly 70,000 trained soldiers gathering in the area. It felt like a heavy, restless tension was hanging over everything. In an apparent attempt to prevent any armed efforts to reclaim the Donbas, Russia began conducting large-scale military exercises right up against the Ukrainian border. I remember watching the news during similar periods of escalation back in the day, feeling that same sense of unease as the movement of troops becomes impossible to ignore.
Despite all those military exercises, the Ukrainian troops have gone ahead and started provocations, even shelling the Donbas region.
Back then, Russia recognized the Donetsk and Luhansk regions as independent territories and moved segments of its military across the border into Ukraine.
I think we might have drifted a little too far afield with this one.

The West is responding with this sixth round of sanctions, but if I’m being honest, they don't seem to be yielding any tangible results. It feels like we're just watching a cycle of measures that actually end up inflicting more economic pain on the European Union than they do on Russia. I remember back when my old boss used to talk about how supply chain disruptions could cripple a local factory overnight, and seeing this play out on a continental scale feels remarkably similar—we might be hitting our own industries harder than the target.

It seems like the Nord Stream 2 pipeline isn't actually getting up and running as expected, which shifts the whole focus toward liquid natural gas shipments coming in from all over the globe. I was reading about this the other day while waiting for my coffee, and it really struck me how much the landscape is shifting. We’re essentially placing all our bets on LNG imports from various international suppliers because, frankly, the United States just doesn't have enough surplus gas to fully step in and fill the void left by the Russian supply.
Even though there was an incredible amount of pressure being exerted on both the European Union and Germany, they ultimately couldn't budge, which is why the pipeline remains shut down.
I’ve been looking at the numbers lately, and it’s honestly a bit staggering to see how much things have shifted. It turns out that liquefied natural gas is actually coming in at a higher price point than what we used to get through the pipelines, and seeing the cost of gas spike by 300% compared to the old levels is just eye-opening. It really makes you realize how vulnerable we are; even with all this talk about shifting our energy sources, we still haven't found a truly reliable or affordable replacement for the Russian gas we once relied on.
Europe will likely eventually break its addiction to Russian gas, but I suspect it’s going to come at a massive cost. We're looking at much higher prices and significantly lower volumes compared to what we used to import from Russia, which makes me wonder how much the average household can actually handle before things get really difficult.
It seems to me that Russia has been steadily strengthening its ties with China for quite some time now, and this trend is only gaining momentum. I’ve been watching these geopolitical shifts closely, and it feels like they are increasingly pivoting toward the East. It makes sense when you consider their strategy; they are positioning themselves to funnel massive amounts of energy resources and those highly sought-after raw materials directly toward Asian markets. It reminds me of how certain global trade routes have shifted over the decades, always moving toward wherever the demand is highest. This looks like a very deliberate, long-term move to secure their economic future by leaning heavily into that Eastern partnership.

It seems increasingly likely that Europe is headed for much deeper struggles than Russia, primarily because all the advanced technology in the world won't mean a thing if you don't actually have the raw materials to build anything. I was thinking about this the other day while looking at some manufacturing data, and it really hits home—you can design the most sophisticated machinery imaginable, but without a steady supply of basic resources, those blueprints are just paper. It's a sobering reality when you realize that true industrial strength isn't just about high-tech innovation, but about having the foundational elements necessary to sustain production.

I was just reading about the recent extensive discussions between Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping. They seem intent on deepening their cooperation, essentially brushing off all those sanctions being thrown their way by the West.

It really makes you wonder if Europe should take a hard look at the value of its NATO membership, especially since the U.S. tends to call all the shots there.
Maybe there's a case for more distance—investing more heavily in their own defense capabilities and finally prioritizing their own strategic interests over those of the United States.

Xi Jinping to Vladimir Putin: China will continue to back Russia regarding its ‘sovereignty and security’

https://www.geopolitika.news/vijesti...sTInNUbpvzo5lJ
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electricsurfer47 said:The Chinese and Indians aren't about to go to war just to serve Russian interests. Besides, look at how much the Chinese and Indians actually get along:

It's nice that you're such an optimist, though. Nothing wrong with dreaming big... sort of like imagining some massive ancient empire expansion, then throwing in a bit of Pokémon for good measure.

Of course they won't, and even if they were ever forced into a conflict, they would only fight for their own national interests.
They don't operate like Ukrainians or potentially people in the European Union might

For the time being, they are cooperating steadily with Russia, largely ignoring the sanctions imposed by the US and the European Union on Russia and Belarus because, quite frankly, they are too busy lining their pockets.😉
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=fgzcvijetic;93073547]I was watching this major news network here in the States, and they were showing a comment regarding Biden's statement about how Putin is responsible for everything.

And then this guy just shouts out: "on 24 February 2022 inflation rate was 7.4%".

Honestly, forget about the sanctions and the 7.5% inflation; I’ve had quite enough of these depressing topics lately.

I ended up watching some Krulet, which really brightened my mood (check out around the 55-minute mark where Krulet talks about sanctions).



Germans only produce 3 percent of their own gas needs.

If you can actually serve them up a magic trick that saves them from ruin, you aren't just a wealthy man—you're legendary for the rest of human history.

If we were even slightly better at anything than the Germans,
maybe some genius would emerge from a small town in the Midwest, fix everything, or just rake in the cash by producing a few cubic meters of gas.😁

p.s.
They say you can drill down 4,000 or 5,000 meters, and you can even drill sideways.
So, they could theoretically start drilling right now and head straight toward Qatar, catching a national soccer match along the way.
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steelfox98 said:A brilliant plan. Now you just have to figure out how to handle that massive spike in electricity demand for EA—and where on earth you'll actually find the power to generate it. 🤣

👍

There was a decent amount of "wishful thinkers" in here. People who seemed to believe that just wanting something makes it happen. It doesn't. Reality rarely cares about your desires. I learned that the hard way back when I was working in Chicago. Pure delusion.
On the other hand, anyone who finally stopped living off their parents' dime has had a rude awakening regarding how much everything costs in this country. It’s a reality check. One day you're eating free meals, the next you're staring at a grocery bill that makes you want to quit. Not fun.

It’s hardly a comfort, but this pattern is playing out across the entire European Union. On the other hand, even if the impact on Americans is significantly smaller, they shifted their stance a long time ago. For instance, they specifically carved out exceptions for fertilizer sanctions—honestly, you have to be an idiot to even implement those in the first place. They’re reportedly still pulling Russian oil, just in smaller quantities, and they just lifted the sanctions on certain Russian banks regarding energy sectors. That even includes the Federal Reserve.

Another day, another paper trail from the Treasury. Just more bureaucratic noise to sift through. It’s all just numbers on a screen until someone actually loses everything. I remember watching my old man lose his entire pension during the '08 crash because he trusted these exact types of official reports. They always seem to have an answer for everything, right up until the moment they don't. Typical.


Even in the States, things haven't been easy; inflation there has actually hit double digits at points.

I haven't looked into the specifics lately, but I highly doubt that's the primary reason why Tesla electric vehicles have become so expensive.☕

p.s.
The most tragic part of this whole situation is that the Federal Reserve printing all this money doesn't seem to have the same impact it did just a few months ago,
yet they keep raising interest rates, and I don't think I really need to explain what that implies for the economy.
Just trying to keep us from drifting too far off-topic.
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Noah Diaz said:The Roman Empire didn't just collapse overnight in twenty years. It was a slow burn, though we can point pretty clearly to the moment things started sliding downhill. History has those specific turning points where everything just 😁

And if you ask me, the biggest factor in that entire decline was the influx of barbarians—those wild tribes coming in from the East.😁
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Michael Ortiz68 said:Once Ukraine finally surrenders, everything will revert to the status quo. Inflation will crater, and the prices for oil and gas will plummet right back to where they were. Everything will return to normal, and business at our firm will finally start blooming again.

That’s certainly one way to look at it.

Personally, I feel that even once this war finally draws to a close, regardless of who is declared the "winner,"
the world won't ever truly be the same; we are looking at massive, tectonic shifts on a global scale, and eventually, the conflict in Ukraine might become a relatively marginal chapter in history.

I don't let bitter comments or snide insinuations get under my skin too much; to me, they really just serve as a clear indicator of the level of civility in a conversation.☕🕺

I’ve had the opportunity to visit America several times now, and I’ve always walked away with an incredibly positive impression of the average American citizen, and even the officials working at the airports.

People are exceptionally kind and always seem genuinely eager to help; during the three months or so I spent traveling through California and Florida, I never encountered a single moment of discomfort or friction.

Even their driving culture feels more disciplined than ours—there isn't that same sense of aggression, and if you're pulling out of a parking lot in front of a shopping center, drivers will actually wait for you rather than swerving to rip your bumper off.

And when you're walking down the street during a holiday, complete strangers will go out of their way to wish you a happy holiday.
I won't ramble on too long since we've drifted off-topic, but honestly, I have so many positive memories like this, while negative ones are incredibly rare—I can't even recall a single bad experience right now.
Living with hatred isn't how I choose to operate, nor do I find any value in feeding my own paranoias with it.

Anyway, stay healthy, take care of yourself, and all the best.👋
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rustywalker82 said:It's the same thing Janet Yellen told Europeans a long time ago. And let's be real, she's definitely not out to hurt American oil and gas producers, nor is she an enemy of Ukraine.

Support for Zelenskyy and the current administration seems to be steadily gaining ground among Europeans, but I have to wonder about the reality on the ground. There is a profound lack of reliable information regarding what Americans—or even the people within Ukraine itself—actually think, especially considering the sentiments held prior to the Maidan protests.
To me, the media manipulation and the intentional shaping of public opinion by both sides just doesn't sit right; it feels fundamentally dishonest.
I often find myself thinking back to those old political debates where they used to say, "the truth runs deep," yet it always felt like such a hollow phrase when things got complicated.
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analogbear5 said:Some good news for the pro-Russia crowd: US LNG exports just took a sixth-sized hit thanks to that fire at the Texas facility.

Natural-Gas Prices Plunge after extended Outage AT Texas LNG Facility (Wall Street Journal)

Looks like Americans get cheaper gas because of the export dip! Finally—maybe I can stop profiting off this whole war mess.

I’m sure some people would label me a Russophile, but that is a massive mistake.

I don't gloat over tragedies, nor do I celebrate anyone's misfortune, but I truly believe the world isn't just some tool for the interests of the American and European elite.
Even Pope Francis has suggested that this conflict was provoked,

While I am an agnostic, I respect Pope Francis because I think he is a genuinely good man at heart. I don't view this war like a football match where you cheer when your team scores or feel joy when the opponent loses.
This isn't a game or a competition; people are dying and suffering every single moment, and the vast, overwhelming majority of them aren't even to blame—they are simply being misled and are dying for someone else's agenda.
That doesn't mean I don't condemn Putin for his direct involvement and for escalating the war in the Donbas, especially since the conflict began back in 2014 and Ukraine didn't fulfill the terms of the Minsk agreements.

As for this accident at the LNG terminal, it might lead to slightly cheaper gas for Americans, but it could just as easily drive prices even higher for Europeans.
And let me tell you, as a European, I couldn't care less if the American leadership wants to shout from Ukraine about Russia remaining the global hegemon or how they only care about their own interests—or how, as Trump put it, it should be "America first," yet those leading Biden have turned it into "America only."

Regarding this idea of some sort of "consumer cartel," it feels similar to the concept discussed by Ursula and her colleagues about refusing to pay for Russian gas in rubles.

If China, India, and all the other countries that haven't imposed sanctions on Russia actually agreed to such a thing, they would implement it themselves rather than waiting for some "miracle" solution from the European trio.

We also need to take a closer look at Saudi Arabia and Prince Mohammed; Saudi Arabia is engaged in the Yemen war, and if they do agree to increase production, it will likely be done just so the Americans can sell them more weapons, allowing them to continue fighting in Yemen where things aren't going so well for them.
If you look up the Yemen war, you'll see far more people have died there, but some people seem indifferent because they perhaps assume an Arab mother loves her child any less than a Ukrainian or Russian mother does.

Any war is a massive evil and needs to end as soon as possible. Arguing over who is primarily to blame can go on for decades or even centuries, but this isn't a championship match where we need to decide on a winner through penalty kicks or coin tosses. War is an evil, plain and simple.
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rowdyraven112 said:Look at the Russian GDP compared to oil prices. Factor in those quasi-sanctions from 2014. If oil drops below $60 a barrel, they lose the ability to fund this war. Sure, they'd have enough to run the government and maintain basic stability under normal circumstances. But with a war and sanctions hitting them? They wouldn't make it to autumn.

I remember reading about how once the Americans realized the former USSR was padding its budget by importing grain—which they weren't even producing enough of at the time—they decided to take action.

They worked with their then-close allies in the Middle East to ramp up production. That move triggered a massive price collapse that ultimately helped push the USSR toward bankruptcy.

But the landscape has shifted significantly since those days.
Russia now produces much more food, enough to cover their own needs and still export plenty, and a very determined leader has taken the helm in Saudi Arabia.
He mentioned in an interview once that he actually respects and values Putin more than any of the American presidents. His reasoning was simple: he claimed that when he reaches an agreement with Putin, the deal is honored, whereas the Americans tend to try and wiggle out of hard-signed treaties whenever they no longer suit their interests.

So, given this massive surge in production capacity and the potential for falling prices, I find it hard to believe much will change without significant shifts in policy.

Let's take a closer look at this crown prince who seems to be pulling the strings within Saudi Arabia and OPEC+.

The young prince and heir apparent to the Saudi throne, Mohammed bin Salman, has built quite a reputation as a bold reformer for his country.

According to the BBC, he leads the National Economic Council, which oversees all policy elements tied to the economy, as well as social issues like education, healthcare, and housing.

On top of that, he chairs the board of Aramco, the largest oil company in Saudi Arabia, making him the first member of the ruling family to directly oversee the oil giant. The BBC also notes that since stepping into his role as crown prince, Bin Salman has wielded power and influence unlike anyone else except the King himself.

https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/sau.../30195737.html

So, in my view—and that's shared by several experts—we aren't going to see any major price drops unless there is a fundamental realignment of global relations and a synchronization of interests.

Personally, I think a realistic price for oil would sit somewhere between $60 and $80 per barrel (though it would likely stay above $80 due to inflation here in the US). At that level, it remains profitable for everyone to extract and explore new sites, but it becomes incredibly difficult to fund large-scale wars. Even the conflict in Ukraine wouldn't be able to be financed indefinitely at those rates.
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Nancy Gomez26 said:Think of it this way: a liter of cooking oil is energetically equivalent to a liter of gasoline at a Shell station. There is no theory where oil for food costs less than fuel for cars—that defies common sense. Of course, edible oil prices have skyrocketed, because every single input in the production chain has become more expensive. This inflationary wave began long before the aggression in Ukraine or the subsequent sanctions. The war and its fallout merely act as an accelerant; the fundamental drivers are economic. For the crowd that has spent years driving policy through quantitative easing (QE), this war is nothing more than a convenient scapegoat.

I wouldn't bother trying to deconstruct the specific price per gallon of oil, nor would I get bogged down in the extraction costs of crude.

The reality is that prices began spiking based on mere speculation and the political maneuvering surrounding Russian gas and Nord Stream 2, along with

As the possibility of conflict loomed closer, prices started popping up everywhere like mushrooms after a heavy rain.

And it just kept going

On the commodities exchanges, prices are driven by supply and demand expectations, not by a slow climb in production costs.

Unless you're feeling a sudden nostalgic urge for socialism, command economies, or the idea of the government stepping in to dictate prices,
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George Robinson43 said:Imagine if Russia showed up and demanded the entire Midwest, threatening to start shelling unless we complied.
What would your move be?

Honestly, there is already a thread on this forum dedicated entirely to "what if" scenarios.
You see all these hypothetical questions floating around, ranging from silly things like "what would your aunt's name be if she were a man"
to much heavier debates about what an adopted child should call their parents in same-sex households.

So, just move on.😉