silverstag24 said:Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam
It’s actually pretty rare to see one of your posts where you don't trip over at least one of those classic logical fallacies.
I already tackled the issue head-on. Let me say it again: if a sickness is on par with the flu, then it deserves the same level of attention as the flu. If you’re out here claiming it needs way more than that, well, the burden of proof is on you to show it.
You are drifting away from the point. I asked you how many deaths within the US would justify a specific measure according to your logic. You didn't answer.
crimsonranger3 said:The forums and society at large are being cluttered by these self-proclaimed doomsday prophets and loafers who clearly have nothing better to do with their lives. They don't have jobs, they don't have friends, and they just sit around waiting for a crisis so they finally have something to talk about.
We need to approach this from a realist's perspective. These alarmists love obsessing over data, so let them run the numbers. How many lives were actually compromised by the virus versus how many were ruined by sheer stupidity in policy-making? I personally know far too many people who lost their livelihoods—educated professionals who had spent years building careers, all gone because of these measures.
The issue isn't the virus. The problem is that people have become fundamentally decayed and negligent regarding their own well-being, and now we finally have something that exposes it.
It’s like having rotten roof beams that have been sitting there for ten years, and then a heavy snowfall hits and the whole roof collapses on you. What do you do? You blame the snow. No. The snow was just the last straw.
The people listed as having died "from COVID" were likely already at death's door or ancient to begin with. Look, I know I sound blunt, but they didn't die "from the virus"—it’s a miracle they even lived long enough to catch it.
My grandfather passed away this year at 89 from pneumonia. "Pneumonia." Apparently, the fact that he was 88 years old and everything else about his health just suddenly didn't matter anymore.
Of course, losing someone isn't easy, but let’s be realistic—you can't exactly act surprised when both your nine-month-old car and your twenty-seven-year-old one finally give up the ghost at the same time. The human body is just another machine that requires maintenance and has a built-in expiration date. Besides, there's always the question of how each individual machine was originally designed.
After everything I’ve laid out, we arrive at one conclusion: natural selection.
Nicole James As requested by silverstag24:
It’s inevitable. The same crowd that’s been trashing the task force and their protocols will be the first ones demanding accountability from them the moment hospital beds start filling up, claiming they didn't do enough.
Explain to me why they’re closing hospitals, especially if they plan on moving people who actually NEED help into them, rather than just asymptomatic patients and people running a mild fever of 102°F.
You might not be a fan of this genre, but give it a listen—or at least read the lyrics to Iron Maiden's "When The Wild Wind Blows."
If you ever happen to contract cancer or some sort of cardiovascular disease, I sincerely hope you stay consistent and don't bother young, healthy people with expensive treatments; instead, I hope you just wave it off, say "NATURAL SELECTION," and pass away somewhere quietly where you won't be a nuisance to anyone.
Explain to me why hospitals would actually close, especially if they start filling up with people who genuinely NEED help, rather than asymptomatic patients or people sitting there with a 102°F fever.
Maybe this isn't your genre of music, but listen to—or at least read the lyrics of—"When The Wild Wind Blows" by Iron Maiden.
Why? Because if you put a COVID patient in an ICU bed, that bed is effectively gone for any other patient. It is because those with severe symptoms requiring hospitalization (which accounts for 15 to 20 percent of confirmed cases) need to be under the supervision of specialists, and our supply of those experts is quite limited. If they become overwhelmed, you can't go to the hospital—you just stay home and hope for the best. It is because staff who were potentially exposed to COVID cannot work with other patients and must go into isolation. It is because you cannot perform heart surgery on someone and then move them to a ward where someone else has COVID, because you will likely kill them. Get it?
silverstag24 said:Look, tuberculosis kills about 4,000 people every single day. That means so far this year, it's already taken out over 1.14 million folks. And the kicker? We actually have both a cure and a vaccine for that one. I don't remember hearing you sounding nearly as worried about it.
Besides, even those COVID death tolls are pretty debatable when you consider how sketchy and inconsistent the methodology for determining a COVID-related death has been. It feels like every other week there’s some news report claiming the numbers are being inflated, and that's coming straight from the official sources in places like Italy, the United Kingdom, and the USA...
The new coronavirus has been spreading globally for about six months now. Your math regarding TBC is off. If we were seeing over 700 cases of TBC daily across the US—especially with an exponential growth trend—you can bet we would be dealing with incredibly strict measures...
It’s interesting how you seem to catch every single headline that implies numbers might be higher than they actually are, yet you completely overlook reports about countries downplaying infection and death rates for obvious political reasons. I honestly don't see why any government would have an incentive right now to inflate their numbers and make themselves look incompetent.