Posts by Carl Robinson6

I’d like to ask the moderatorit a few questions regarding recent decisions

Carl Robinson6 said:The moderators still haven't provided any clarity on this:

1) What is the actual limit for chat topics? I’m curious as to what specific rules or authority dictates that having three chat topics is suddenly too many.

2) On what grounds were those three moved? Labeling them strictly as "chat" topics feels inaccurate; anyone reading them can see they center on very specific issues, like being a mistress or an adulteress.

3) Is there a cap on how many regulars can frequent a chat topic? How many new users need to join within a certain timeframe to prevent it from being flagged as a "closed group"?

4) IF we are following objective criteria for what constitutes a chat, why were all three removed at once despite their vastly different lengths, subject matters, and engagement levels?

5) Where did this sudden need for such aggressive, unreasoned intervention come from? These threads worked perfectly fine for years—they drew people in and actually helped the community.

Nicholas King said:In reality—if we are being completely honest here—the forum exists because of the money.

As for us, we're here for carbon's near-infinite capacity to bond with other elements.

Don't overcomplicate the narrative.

Ryan Smith7 said:It seems we find ourselves at an impasse: we believe this is necessary, yet they remain convinced it isn't.
It feels like our "yes" is always their "no," and their "yes" is always ours...
They will likely respond to our arguments soon, so feel free to continue posting here just as you have been doing up until now.
They are the ones in charge... 🤷

They really need to get their act together and organize their shop...
In a way that feels somewhat stigmatizing...
If you have been cheated on, then just speak about the betrayal and leave it at that. Period.
As if it even matters how you feel three years down the line. 🤷
If you're just going to be some lowlife, then what exactly do you have to say about how things unfolded after that?
Honestly, who really cares that she has a baby now?🤷
Honestly, who even cares? Now that steeleagle25 is getting a divorce, she won't be acting like an adulteress anymore. 🤷

You're changing your status, and that means you're no longer part of this Topic. 🤷
The bar section of the ZUD...

Perhaps they should have just banned all of us who constantly drift OFF topic, cluttering the threads with trivial daily nonsense and the various emotions that come along with it...
But that would just open the floodgates for far too many personal grievances...
So, they actually deleted entire threads just because a few of us forum users decided to be a little rebellious...
If it doesn't suit someone, then they simply shouldn't write, right?

And really, who can blame us for viewing this as nothing less than a degradation?
Moving from ZUD over to off...
They were simply trying to establish some order at ZUD. 🤷

Honestly, Ryan, I didn't expect such whining and defeatism from you!

This is nothing more than unargued tyranny and thinly veiled intolerance.
ZUD doesn't belong to the moderators.
The forum exists for the users, not the mods.

And forum rules aren't the Ten Commandments; they shouldn't be set in stone.

The moderators still haven't provided any clarity on this:

1) What is the actual limit for chat topics? I’m curious as to what specific rules or authority dictates that having three chat topics is suddenly too many.

2) On what grounds were those three moved? Labeling them strictly as "chat" topics feels inaccurate; anyone reading them can see they center on very specific issues, like being a mistress or an adulteress.

3) Is there a cap on how many regulars can frequent a chat topic? How many new users need to join within a certain timeframe to prevent it from being flagged as a "closed group"?

4) IF we are following objective criteria for what constitutes a chat, why were all three removed at once despite their vastly different lengths, subject matters, and engagement levels?

5) Where did this sudden need for such aggressive, unreasoned intervention come from? These threads worked perfectly fine for years—they drew people in and actually helped the community.

So, the moderators still haven't gotten back to me regarding what role the mistress actually played in those arguments between the betrayed and the adulteresses. And why we’ve been lumped in with the group that was supposedly "trading insults, filing mutual complaints, and threatening lawsuits."

John Hill said:If nobody had said anything, you’d be accusing us of ignoring you. Now that we actually showed up, suddenly everything is wrong again. Look, I get it—for some people, no explanation is ever going to be good enough, but that doesn't make it a valid point.

1. All three of these are chat threads. You can claim otherwise if you really don't know what the definition of a chat is.

2. This wasn't about being lazy. It was about the constant back-and-forth, where the arguments kept jumping from one thread to another between the mistresses and the betrayed.

3. I don't get this idea that we were just sitting around hoping these threads would die out. Why would I, or any moderator, actually care whether a thread lives or dies? 🤷 Whether it's a three-page thread or a 300-page one, it makes no difference to us. Besides, the plan is to reopen a single thread about infidelity—not three separate ones where everyone keeps dragging the fight from one place to another, which was becoming impossible to follow.

4. > isn't some graveyard; it's just a section of the forum where the rules are a bit more relaxed, so the issues from these three specific Topics don't stand out as much.

eureka.
So the mistresses were just collateral damage, I suppose?

Once again: shame on you.
Two and a half years of this topic and dozens of women who actually needed support.
All that self-restraint and careful moderation just to avoid arguments, insults, and bans.
And this is the best explanation you can give us?

Pathetic and transparent. 👎👎👎

John Hill said:The explanation isn't arrogant or pathetic—it’s just the truth. But hey, if you honestly believe that other threads get away with this much leeway, why don't you show me an example? Show me a thread that stays open this long while having this much constant bickering, which in this case has even bled into three different threads.
To prove my point about what counts as "truth," I could list a whole bunch of threads—take the one about women who don't want to be mothers, for instance. Those discussions were intense and went on for a while, but once they started getting watered down and turned into nothing but petty fighting, they were shut down. That’s exactly what should have happened here. These threads were only left hanging this long because someone was trying to find a softer way to handle it.

PS: I don't get the logic here. Why would you think these topics personally offend any of us when we haven't even deleted or locked them? Look, on the OFF topic section, you can keep talking just like you can on ZUD or pretty much anywhere else on this forum.

John Hill, that’s just not true.
No one is spilling secrets or picking fights from those other two threads, nor is anyone coming over here to start trouble (not since the lady, Impossibila, and the rest of that crowd were removed).
The chat about mistresses serves a purpose on ZUD.
If you actually look closer, you'll see there's always some new girl popping up who needs advice.