Fine, then I’m going to go ahead and officially opt out at my doctor's office—strictly as a protest against this absurd setup. It drives me absolutely insane when people try to decide things for me under the guise of "presumed consent." That’s just nonsense. In a sane world, it should be "presumed refusal." If they really want to push this through, let them actually ask people if they're okay with someone messing around with their organs at the moment of brain death or shortly after. Personally? I'm fundamentally against it. As the owner of my own body, why should anyone else get to decide? Who cares if it’s "all the same" to the deceased once they're gone? Not me. 👎
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jadesailor14 said:I don't think you quite caught my drift 😬
Let's break this down a bit more clearly
If you're saying you're against organ donation unless it's for family, then you should be just as firm about only accepting an organ if it comes from your own kin
Basically, stating that you would never, under any circumstances, agree to receive a donation from a stranger
Does that make sense?
My comment wasn't even addressing what you actually said. ☕
Scott Allen10 said:Look, there’s really no such thing as being selective about this stuff. Honestly, when you go to see your own doctor, you just tell them straight up that you don't want to be a donor, and that's that—case closed. I always figure it's best to just sit down with the family and make your position crystal clear so there's zero confusion later on. Once everyone is on the same page, everything else just falls into place.
I was actually thinking about my own flesh and blood—specifically my kid. I don't want them to be stuck in some nightmare scenario if an accident happens—you never know, right? I've been careful for years, but... I just wouldn't want a situation where they desperately need an organ and I've already told everyone else "no" across the board.
I was talking about traffic... You never really know. I just wouldn't want to accidentally shut the door on anyone close to me who might actually be able to help...
Man, it's heavy thinking about this stuff...
Man, it's heavy thinking about this stuff...
Can my primary care doctor—the one holding my medical records—actually note down a refusal to donate organs to anyone except specific people I designate? Or does that only work if I list my next of kin?
Look, I'm not saying I'm flat-out against it,
but I’d only ever consider it for the people I actually love—people who mean something to me. As for that mystical, "love thy neighbor" type of altruism? No chance. I'm just not that saintly.
Besides, I'm not about to let some random stranger decide what happens to my body after I'm gone.
What I'm really wondering is: can a doctor actually write that "but" into my file? Specifically, that I opt out for everyone *except* certain individuals? It's a bit heavy to sit there and try to list exactly who those people are, if I'm being honest.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it—but selectively. Period. Honestly, listening to those "holier-than-thou" types judge me just makes my blood boil!
Look, I'm not saying I'm flat-out against it,
but I’d only ever consider it for the people I actually love—people who mean something to me. As for that mystical, "love thy neighbor" type of altruism? No chance. I'm just not that saintly.
Besides, I'm not about to let some random stranger decide what happens to my body after I'm gone.
What I'm really wondering is: can a doctor actually write that "but" into my file? Specifically, that I opt out for everyone *except* certain individuals? It's a bit heavy to sit there and try to list exactly who those people are, if I'm being honest.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it—but selectively. Period. Honestly, listening to those "holier-than-thou" types judge me just makes my blood boil!
Alright. If there isn't a legal mandate forcing people to put their stance in writing—then personally? I wouldn't want to donate an organ unless it was to my immediate family, people I actually feel a moral debt toward. I’m not down for anything else—nor would I ever expect anyone to step up for me if they hadn't already given their consent, no matter how you look at it.
Thanks for the answer. It’s a relief to breathe a little easier now.
Thanks for the answer. It’s a relief to breathe a little easier now.
This whole thing was thrown at us with an aggressive attack based on what was splashed in the news yesterday—though looking back through the archives, I see this debate isn't even new. Honestly, kudos to anyone noble enough to support it, but let’s be real: our organs belong to us. Period. Only the individual—or their next of kin if they never made their stance clear while alive—should have the right to decide. At least regarding Canada, there should be a law stating that upon death—say, following a sudden accident—organs can be transplanted WITHOUT THE CONSENT of the deceased. I mean, if you don't proactively go somewhere specific to say "no," then fine. It's shameful! I’m just wondering, where can someone actually file a written refusal? It’s such nonsense—instead of creating laws that respect everyone's autonomy, people are forced to write it into their wills just out of fear that their bodies will be desecrated automatically without explicit permission. We're talking about millions of citizens who need to weigh in here. How many of them are actually against it, versus those who are just completely in the dark about this new policy when a tragedy strikes?