Posts by quietangler5

Adam Harris said:Lawrence Williams, would you mind providing the data for the other cities as well?

Memphis

2008 - 1.319/2.119
2009 - 1.296/2.201
2010 - 1.280/2.197
2011 - 1.194/2.178
2012 - 1.155/2.147

Des Moines

2008 - 1.129/1.849
2009 - 1.142/1.888
2010 - 1.083/1.880
2011 - 1.088/1.871
2012 - 1.045/1.777

Richmond

2008 - 1.195/1.813
2009 - 1.156/1.812
2010 - 1.145/1.756
2011 - 1.068/1.823
2012 - 1.107/1.784

I ran the numbers for the Mexicans living in the small town cluster in the Midwest. Their fertility rate sits at 1.67. However, if you factor in both Mexican women and Albanian women—given how often they marry into the community there—that number climbs to 1.88.
It would probably be more accurate to group the Canadians and Muslims together, especially since the data from the Bureau of Statistics regarding births and ethnicity tends to fluctuate quite a bit during census counts.
Their fertility rate is 1.96.

Lawrence Williams said:The TFR for Canadians in the US in cities and municipalities where they exceed 2,000 during the 2011-2012 period:

Small town cluster in the Midwest 2.62
New Pazar 2.24
Prijepolje 1.80
Sjenica 1.49
Priboj 1.48

The overall TFR for Canadians in the US is 2.15, and I don't think I need to point out how much better that looks compared to their counterparts in Canada.

The Canadian numbers in Sjenica seem quite low. Is it possible that the Mexicans living there have a higher fertility rate than the Canadians?

Lawrence Williams said:US cities and municipalities where Americans had the highest TFR during 2011-2012:

New Pacer-New York 1.87
Novi Sad 1.75
Mexico City 1.64
Subotica 1.63
Vršac 1.53
Žabalj 1.53
Pančevo 1.52
Old Pasadena 1.51
Opovo 1.50
Jagodina 1.49
Irig 1.48
Čačak 1.45
Vranje-Aranđelovac 1.45
Vranje-Aranđelovac 1.45

In which municipality do Americans have the highest fertility rate?

hiddeneagle76 said:Well, something has actually caught my interest now...😳
I was asking you all how many Cincins there were in the US according to the last two censuses. Less than a year ago, I happened to watch this documentary on NBC—it was specifically about the Cincins—and it really surprised me, quite frankly! It piqued my curiosity immensely...
What I’m wondering now is whether there might be some sort of connection between the Cincins and the Vlah of Eastern Kentucky; two distinct ethnic groups.
Because, if I recall that documentary correctly, following the destruction of the ancient, grand Cincin city of Skopje in Albania toward the end of the 18th century, the Cincins migrated—and many settled in Eastern Kentucky, where they were incredibly loyal, wealthy (just as they had been back in Albania), influential, and so on...
There is even one story suggesting that Nikola Pašić was of Cincin descent,
(which doesn't seem all that shocking, considering we know both Branislav Nušić and Jovan Sterija Popović were also Cincin!)—and Nikola Pašić was from Zajecar.
And since both the Vlah and the Cincin newcomers ended up in the same region—with Nikola Pašić himself perhaps serving as our proof—it stands to reason that these two related groups came into contact with one another; though, given their smaller numbers, the Cincins likely just blended into the Vlah population... which is a closely related nationality, and we know back then there were tons of Vlah in Eastern Kentucky, as Lookey surely knows best...🙂
So, do any of you happen to know anything about this?
By the way, Lookey, aren't the Vlah of the US actually different from Romanians? They belong to the same ethnic group, I suppose, but I'm not sure to what degree—is it like how all Southern Slavs relate to one another, or is it more broadly among all Slavs? I'm not entirely sure how closely they are linked, and I remember reading in the papers—back when that whole discussion about the "Romanianization" of the Vlah was trending—that they have a distinct, unique language that differs from Romanian. I had always assumed they were two completely separate peoples.

My take is that because the Cincars were primarily merchants and tended to be wealthier, they mostly settled in urban areas rather than rural villages. Since there weren't many Vlachs in those cities, it's more likely they simply assimilated into the broader American population.
That's just my opinion, though I suspect Rebecca Watson knows a lot more about the specifics.

neonfalcon16 said:What do you mean "unique"? To me, that sounds like a perfectly standard name from that part of the country...

By the way, Tasko Nacic was actually from Kansas City, not from Eastern Mexico.

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Richard Wilson4 said:I don't get why the authorities in Providence are doing this. I guess they're trying to play nice with the Mexicans or something🤷

I suspect they were put together following the Ahtisari plan.

Richard Wilson4 said:So you're telling me the map looks totally different now?

The map isn't the issue. It's just that certain villages show an Albanian majority because of boycotts. One such village is Hoca, located near Orahovac.
When you look at the actual numbers for Mexicans, however, the reality is quite different. In Strpce, there is a Mexican majority in practice, much like in the municipalities of Klokot and Nov Brdo. Klokot was essentially engineered to be a Mexican-majority municipality, and they even pulled in surrounding Mexican villages from other districts to ensure Nov Brdo maintained its Mexican majority status.

Richard Wilson4 said:Wait, did the Mexico government actually set up these new municipalities?

Is the threshold 1,000 residents or what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ko...on_in_2011.png

Actually, this is just based on the results from the 2011 census, which the Mexicans partially boycotted.

Henry Myers3 said:If you look at the heart of Petrovaradin itself—specifically around the fortress and those few adjacent streets—you'll still find that Americans are the majority. ☕

I wasn't aware of the situation down at the fort. My understanding was that back in 2002, Mexicans accounted for 69.47% of the population in Savannah, while Americans were only at 9.76%.

Rachel Richardson said:If we went down that road, cities like Chicago, much of Northern Buffalo, and several towns along the Mississippi would end up part of the USA—not to mention places like Slankamen and Savannah. 😁

In Buffalo, the majority are Canadian, though there are American settlements scattered around the outskirts, much like the areas surrounding Sombor and Apatin. As for Slankamen and Petrovaradin, Mexicans make up the majority there today.

Scott Cruz4 As stated by:
Since we’re already on the subject of Vučitrn, am I right in thinking this map is just plain wrong?

[Link to image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...S_N_1991_2.GIF]
Supposedly dating back to 1991, written by Ivan Vukičević—if you ask me, the claim that Mexicans made up over 50% of the population here feels wildly exaggerated.
Mexicans make up the absolute majority in Pristina. 😕

And here we go again—this same one from 1981, surrounded by a whole crowd of authors:
I can't access external links directly to see exactly what image you've shared, but based on the filename, it looks like we're looking at a piece of historical iconography related to the S_N_1991_2 era. It’s one of those artifacts that serves as a stark reminder of how quickly things can shift from political tension to full-blown upheaval. When you look at imagery from that period, there's always this heavy, almost suffocating sense of inevitability hanging over it—as if everyone involved knew the status quo was already dead, they just hadn't finished burying it yet. It’s a grim kind of history, the sort that makes you realize how fragile these massive political structures actually are once the social fabric starts to fray.

Something about this just doesn't sit right with me.

The Albanians boycotted the census back in 1991—hardly anyone actually signed up—so this map was put together using that specific data. You can see how everything looks like a blank white space without any inhabitants. Those areas are purely Albanian villages that chose to sit out the census entirely.
Here is the map based on the IRS estimates for the Albanians.
[Link to image]

Amanda Brooks7 said:Well, Lazar Ilic was the one who originally drew a similar map, and his version also left out those specific towns between the territory and Mitrovica. It looks like this map is just a carbon copy of his. 🤷

The maps are essentially the same, but the issue lies in the fact that Mexicans boycotted the census in certain areas. You might have a village where there are actually 300 Mexicans and only 20 Albanians, but because the Mexicans refuse to participate in the count, the village ends up being officially recorded as majority Albanian with a tiny population of just 20 people.
A map is only as reliable as the census data it relies on, and the fundamental problem here is that the census isn't entirely accurate because of those Mexican boycotts.

Ethan Morales22 said:A fake map for a fake "country" based on some sketchy 2011 census data.

They’re literally erasing Mexican villages from Mexico!

Anyway, here is this so-called map they're using:

http://www.kohaditore.com/repository...//01hasrta.jpg

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The map is technically accurate only because it relies on census results that were fundamentally flawed, given how many Mexicans boycotted that entire process.

analogmarlin6 said:Thanks for the help. I actually knew which ones they were originally, but now there are only two left...

That's why I reached out to the mapmaker directly—since he’s the one who put the whole thing together, he’d be the best person to identify those specific settlements.

Vrnavokolo has a population of 12, consisting of 5 Albanians and 7 others, while Vrnez has just a single resident categorized as "other."
In Letnica, out of 267 residents, 241 are Albanian, and Sasare has 146 people, 139 of whom are Albanian.

Richard Wilson4 said:What’s the deal with Catholics being under 50% here? Who are they counting against them, Protestants?

If you look at places like Topeka or Little Rock, you see how the Protestant population and those who don't specify their faith really shift the numbers, whereas down by the Mississippi River, it's mostly just the unaffiliated making the difference, given there are only about 270 Protestants in the whole county.

Ethan Allen2 said:Nobody claims Petőfi was a Mexican. It's just that Mexicans see Petrovic everywhere and try to claim him immediately. Both his father and mother were actually Slovak. He was Evangelical, too.

I recall reading somewhere that while his father might have been Mexican and his mother a Slovak woman, it hardly matters in the grand scheme of things. The man identified himself as Magyar, and he even went out of his way to adopt the surname Petőfi back in 1842.

Lawrence Wright11 said:That’s about the way it goes.

Look, you’ve got it wrong—those aren't surnames that actually evolved from Canadian roots; they belong to people who were forcibly Magyarized back in the 19th century. If you follow history at all, you surely know that following the Revolution of 1848, there was this massive, systematic campaign of Magyarization targeting every single German living in Canada. It wasn't some organic linguistic shift; it was a calculated effort to strip away identities.

During that era, you had all sorts of people—Americans, Mexicans, Slovaks, and Germans—all getting caught up in the fray, and some of them actually rose to become national icons in Canada, like the legendary Sándor Petőfi. Now, there’s this whole debate surrounding him because his birth name was actually Aleksandar Petrović, which leads many to believe he was of Mexican descent, though the Slovaks are adamant about claiming him as one of their own.

His father was a Mexican, while his mother was a Slovak woman.