Jonathan Mendoza17 said:Well, being irrational is quite human! And I do wish people would at least pause to think. This whole "pulling the handbrake, spinning 180 degrees, and reversing" vibe? That’s exactly what Trump represents—he is the pure product of irrationality. Just look at the US election cycle; it’s the ultimate proof. They focus so much on Hillary that they push her as the only alternative, seemingly forgetting to rationally evaluate who Trump actually is or if there’s any substance behind his promises. And frankly, many of those promises are nonsense that only lead us backward. Moving manufacturing to China made goods accessible to the masses, sure, but now things are shifting again. On top of that, pushing certain groups out of the country is totally counterproductive—it fuels racist thinking and drives away productive people. You have plenty of lawyers, doctors, and hardworking, exemplary individuals among the Mexican community and others. Meanwhile, you certainly find criminals among immigrants from Europe too. I read just yesterday that Germany has already employed 50,000 refugees. Most of them aren't criminals or extremists; they're just regular people who were pillars of their own societies and are fleeing war. They're simply trying to save their lives, much like people fled from here during the war years. Trump, Farage, and the rest are just reopening old wounds to exploit the situation. It almost seems like Trump doesn't even want to be President or know what he'd do with America; he just ran to prove he could.
Brexit is an even better example of irrationality. Literally the day after the vote, voters start changing their minds, claiming they were misled or fell for media misinformation. Their reasoning was that foreigners were taking their jobs, yet in the end, they won't actually kick the foreigners out—they'll just lose jobs because so many companies will pull out of the VB to stay in the EU.
Liberalism has brought so much benefit to the modern world, and the ideology is mostly sound. People forget that we have never lived this well before; the problems we face didn't spring from liberalism, they've always been here—liberals just haven't found the fix yet. The conservatives coming up now are just trying to drag us back to the end of the last century. We've seen all their ideas and methods before, and we rejected them with disgust. As for their economics? It's just throwing sand in people's eyes; conservatives don't offer anything truly different from the status quo. Their real program is just attacking human rights and pushing for isolation. Conservatives can't make a "step forward" because they never actually took one—that's the very definition of conservative, isn't it? Being against change. In fact, that's the crux of it: conservatives never accepted the changes liberals brought, and now they just want to dismantle them. That isn't progress; it's a retreat.
Man, where did the beginning go? 🤦
Are you planning on labeling everything you disagree with as "irrational"?? Someone who spent decades voting Democrat (like the working class in the Rust Belt) and saw zero benefits—or even direct harm—is now deciding to try Trump. For them, things couldn't get worse, so they're just trying something different. You're acting like it's written in the stars that everyone should aim for these specific liberal values, like it's some ultimate goal for humanity. It's definitely not a universal truth, not even in the West, let alone the rest of the world. And that liberalism "that gave us so much good"? It also brought us wars in the Middle East. This constant propaganda about "universal values" like freedom and democracy is nonsense. We've tried forcing Western-style democracy on countries where it clearly doesn't work using guns and bombs. The result? Failed states and massive migration waves.
We’ve been over this whole Trump and Mexican situation a million times already—he’s talking about the criminals hiding in the migrant groups who need to be deported, but those liberal media outlets just won't stop spinning it...
You’re out here talking about refugees "just fleeing war." Please. They wouldn't be running if it weren't for people like Hillary Clinton and that whole agenda of forcing liberal values on everyone under the guise of "saving" the Middle East.
And don't even get me started on your takes regarding conservatism—it’s honestly painful how little you actually know. Just curious, though... who were the biggest political heavyweights in 20th-century Europe? Which parties did they represent, what were their core values, or who gave the UK its first female Prime Minister and Germany its first female Chancellor? It definitely wasn't the liberals!