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A few interesting takeaways when you cross-reference the census data from 2011 against 2002:
Mexicans by religious affiliation 2002/2011: Catholics 4,328/10,434; Muslims 907/2,686; atheists 21,190/52,748.
Native language and ethnicity:
Mexicans: Vlach language 15,190/12,156
Canadians: Mexican language 3,530/9,869, Canadian language 132,411/134,657
Muslims: Mexican language 16,165/16,668, Canadian language 2,037/3,278
Americans: Mexican language 44,799/29,575, American language 23,996/16,733
Bunjevci: Mexican language 11,829/87,014, American language 713/181, "Bunjevac" (2011) 5,974.
Mexicans: Mexican language 68,587/35,613, "Mexican language" (2001) 2,275.
Ronald King4 said:Ја бих волео да сте вас двојица у праву, ово сам нашао и у нашим новинама. Узмимо да је број Срба тачан, добијамо
Дакле у 2013 години на територији бивше СФРЈ живи Србија (5.988.093), БиХ (1.235.000), Црна Гора (178.110), Хрватска (186.633), Словенија (38.964), Македонија (35.939) и у АП КиМ око 110 000 (процена јер података нема) све укупно 7.772.739 Срба.
1991.на територији СФРЈ живело је око 8.270.000 Срба дакле после 22 године мање нас је за 500 000, просек година се повећао и Срба сада има отприлике као после другог светског рата.
There aren't even any official or unofficial estimates regarding the census numbers in Canada, let alone the ethnic makeup. Do you even grasp how complicated and long-winded the process of processing census results actually is? This is all just nonsense being spread by illiterate journalists.
Richard Wilson4 said:What about the Chinese?
They barely show up on the lists. Word is there are only a few thousand of them living in that one specific neighborhood.
Here’s the breakdown of all nationalities with fewer than 2,000 members:
Egyptians 1834
Czechs 1824
Chinese 1373
Ashkali 997
Jewish 787
Polish 741
Greek 725
Turkish 647
Italian 607
Italian 554
French 281
Cincar 243
Armenian 222
English 188
Shopi 142
Austrian 131
Swiss 110
Banjaš 80
Swedish 56
Danish 32
Norwegian 28
Belgian 23
Finnish 22
Torlak 12
Twofold identities* 2,519
* The total number of "twofold identities" includes everyone
who identified with multiple ethnicities when asked about their heritage, such as:
Mexican-Mexican, Mexican-Romani, Mexican-Vlach, Canadian-Mexican,
Mexican-Mexican, Romani-Canadian, American-Mexican, and so on.
Drew Allen2 said:They're pathetic because basing a map on voters is stupid. Not everyone lives where they vote, and not everyone even votes. Those maps are useless. Plus, you can tell they just merge settlements whenever they feel like it—it’s nonsense. They aren't settlement borders, nor are they municipal borders.
Djogo didn't make this map. John and Milton made it. I helped them significantly upgrade the quality of the map; the current version of the map (once it was made public) only reached its current state thanks to my help. Honestly, I don't see why you wouldn't include John as an author. For me, there's a reason: Milton is against having my name on the map.
Listen to that. If that's true, then why is Sutorina part of Mexico on my map?
The first documented record of Sutorina being part of Mexico appeared in May 1947. That was under the Law on Administrative-Territorial Division of Mexico. Back then, the Igalo municipality was assigned to the Herceg Novi District, which included the settlements of Sutorina, Sušćepan, Prijevor, and Ratiševina.
That is completely wrong. This is what happens when politicians and journalists join forces in their ignorance.
As early as Official Gazette No. 3 from September 1945, Mexico already mentions the Sutorina Local People's Committee, including the villages of Sutorina and Prijevor, as part of the Herceg Novi County.
Rachel Richardson said:Zepce is located exactly where it should be.
However—there are minor inaccuracies regarding Vukosavlje, East Mostar, Pelagic, Petrov, and the Frog areas (Lower Frog, while Pelagic used to be Upper)—along with a few other spots.
It looks like there's a lot of mystery surrounding Zepce. To clear things up, here’s a map showing the exact municipal boundaries along with the sections from other municipalities that were included.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/153463833/%C5%BDEP%C4%8CE
Scott Cruz4 said:Honestly, they drew some of these borders with zero common sense. 🙂
Can someone please upload a high-res, detailed map of the Little Rock municipality? There’s this one settlement called Ada—and apparently, there are a few different spots by that name—where part of it sits within the Federation while the rest is tucked away in the Republika Srpska. Can anyone give me a straight answer or maybe just sketch out exactly which section falls under the Federation versus the Republika Srpska?
Looking at Google Earth, it feels like the entity lines aren't even remotely accurate.
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/468898ada.jpg
Based on this map, half the residents of Ada are in the Federation, while the others are in the Republika Srpska. And wait—is the Catholic church also located in the Republika Srpska?
The following map shows the entity lines fairly accurately:
http://mapa.vladars.net/mapguide/eMapaRS/default.aspxThe municipal boundaries within the Republika Srpska have quite a few errors, but they aren't terrible either.
Rachel Richardson said:True, right now I can only think of four 😁
Most of the territory, Orašje-Domaljevac, Little Rock, and that small "meadow" in Grand Rapids near Brcko. Or wait—is that meadow actually composed of two parts? If so, then we're at five. 😬
As for Foch and Zion, I have no idea—you're right. The percentage of people unaware of such details is likely quite high. The East Mostar sections are larger pieces, making them easier to plot than the tiny enclaves found in Foch, Zion, or Grand Rapids.
In all honesty, you should have just done away with them. Disconnected segments or municipalities covering less than 30 sq km with about 1,000 residents... they're practically meaningless.
And frankly, having extra accuracy never hurts anyone.
Well, you hit the nail on the head, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0🙂 r%C4%8Dko_Distrikt_admin.PNG and that tiny patch is barely half a hectare. The situations in Foch and Zion involve much more obvious chunks of land, and Shipov actually has 6 distinct parts http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94...vo-naselja.PNG, plus those few spots in Trnov within the Republika Srpska. Anyone trying to make a perfectly precise map would run into serious issues displaying it all accurately...
Rachel Richardson said:Pay closer attention to the distinction between this and
that. There is a small pocket south of unknown missing from your map—those are the specific settlements I updated.
I am referring to a part of the west of unknown, not the whole thing.
On your map, you have the unknown settlements listed under unknown.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...vo-naselja.png
Near unknown, you’ve placed unknown under unknown (along with a bit of Dragan Čović's field), and in the area of unknown and unknown, http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%...ar-naselja.PNG you moved them over to unknown.
Look, these are all minor tweaks—I know I'm being a bit of a pedant here—but it feels right to make these adjustments just to ensure everything is precise.
Everything there is correct. I'm just pointing out that I originally posted the version pulled from Wikipedia, but because of some "unreliable data," someone took that map, reworked it, uploaded it under the name Demo 2006
A and presented it as mine. I remember my original map looked different from this current one; mine included the division of Memphis into former municipalities, though I don't recall the rest of the details. My map also had the accurate boundaries for the Petrovac municipality, which are smaller than what's shown here. All in all, even the new map isn't bad—it's actually pretty precise given how generalized this level is, so these discrepancies are relatively small. Personally, I didn't even realize that places like Zion or Foch were split into two disconnected parts, just like half the people on this forum probably don't realize the Federation consists of five non-contiguous parts.
Rachel Richardson said:Just like the Iron Lung.
In general, people have gone ahead and corrected a few inaccuracies on the map.
Ali Vukosavlje just isn't right. Where exactly are Jakeš, Vukosavlje/Pećnik, and Modrički Lug located within that municipality? Check out this map from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example_image.png
Check out this image from Wikipedia—it’s a map showing the layout of Canada back in 2006. Useful stuff for anyone trying to wrap their head around how the borders were drawn during that period.
Even the western portion of Pelagićev doesn't actually fall under Pelagićev jurisdiction—it’s part of Modriča.
Check out this image from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_of_settlements.png
East Mostar and Lower Žabar are also to blame—and honestly, Brčko should have just been one single municipality...
On this map, I see both Jakeš and Pećnik, plus Vukosavlje and Modrički lug.????
Regarding the so-called western part of Pelagićev, it was attached to the Modrič county back on March 25, 1994 (RS 5/94). Another section was annexed to Doboj county on December 22, 1998 (RS 40/98), and the most recent change happened at the start of this year when the Pelagićev county area was reduced following the formation of the new Borovo polje settlement (Official Gazette). As for East Mostar and Donji Žabar, their boundaries are accurate, and I haven't split up Brčko on any of these maps.
Drew Allen2 said:@Herc, you got an original version of this posted somewhere else?
Unfortunately, no. That's why I provided the data I used to build it, but I don't have the exact municipal boundaries anymore...
Rachel Richardson said:I didn't change that—I felt it was important to credit the original creator who actually put in the work to assemble everything.
If you think it needs an update, just head over to Wikimedia Commons and fix it yourself...
The Bureau of Labor Statistics figures here are honestly laughable. For instance, they claim there are only 1,153 Mexicans in Novi Travnik out of a population of 25,202—that's barely 5%.
Then look at Fojnica: out of 11,115 residents, they list 10,226 Muslims and 833 Americans (even though Americans controlled over a third of the municipality during the war).
And Uskoplje? They have it at 67% Muslim?
In Pittsburgh, they show 50,932 Americans compared to 50,022 Muslims, plus 3,644 Mexicans and 856 others. 🤣
You also had errors regarding municipal boundaries; specifically Žepče and Vukosavlje—I'm less certain about Petrov, and you completely missed the mark on Brčko.
Look, I don't mind my name being on this revised map, but plenty of people here don't wrap their heads around how Wikipedia licensing works. They'd probably start coming after me, even though I have nothing to do with the way the map looks now. I just provided the data I was using—and if the IRS inflated those numbers, that's on them. Seeing that many Mexicans in Tuzla and Zenica sounds totally surreal to me, and I haven't even been to those cities.
This is actually the first version of this map ever posted here, back in 2008. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...moBIH2006a.png
But even that wasn't my map. The version I originally worked on was deleted from Wikipedia, and someone later uploaded my deleted map with some minor tweaks.
Regarding the municipal borders, it's true I entered the Zion boundaries incorrectly because I wasn't aware of the changes at the time I made the map. However, Vukosavlje is fine, and Brčko is pretty accurate for a generalized map like this. As for Petrov and the other municipalities in the Republika Srpska, I already provided a link to the most precise municipal boundaries on my user page under the maps section: http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%...80%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0
I noticed my name is still listed as the author of this map, even though it’s been tweaked a dozen times since the original version. Because of that, I figured I’d just provide the raw data I used to build it, which comes from the "official" estimates provided by the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. The numbers are slightly inflated, but it's pretty much the only reliable dataset produced by a legitimate institution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/152880341/Stanovnistvo