Posts by vividrider472

Scott Miller4 said:The thing is, "reprogramming" implies there’s already a program running. I’m more inclined toward the idea of clearing and erasing harmful beliefs to establish the Self—you know, finding your own authenticity without all those programs, beliefs, or patterns getting in the way.

Anyway, vividrider472 already answered you, but I don't want to seem rude, so I’ll share how I handle things.
My approach focuses on techniques that boil down to "problem-solving" or simply "clearing harmful patterns." I don't really do affirmations or visualizations; I prefer working solo.
I don't do deep digging or heavy analysis. I just trigger the process and use specific tools.
It's definitely harder to do it on your own, but if you have the right intention and enough willpower, the results usually follow. 😉

You might want to Google some techniques for clearing negative patterns. Personally, I could recommend the Sedona Method or Ho'oponopono.

I don't really use the word "reprogramming" myself—when you look at the actual meaning, it’s more about how clearing those negative beliefs inevitably reveals your true Self. You're just removing the barriers—the programs and patterns—that block it. If clearing a belief like "I DON'T love myself" results in an actual state of self-love, then saying "I DO love myself" isn't adding a new program... it's just the technical way of expressing that the Self has finally surfaced.

jadegardener12 said:So you're saying this isn't something we can just tackle on our own—that we actually need a specialized therapist? Who even handles this kind of work, and what's the damage to my wallet?

Murphy doesn't mention anything like that in the book... he focuses on solo work through affirmations and visualization. If I'm following you correctly, you're saying doing it alone is basically useless?

I'm game. We can work something out—we're all humans here, after all.😁
Look, plenty of this can be handled on your own—it's definitely not the only way. And honestly, it's doable if you just practice a bit, assuming you have any knack for self-guided work. I can pass along some instructions and materials I've gathered. Affirmations and visualizations do work—you just need to know a few little tricks to make them stick. So, just find an hour and a half of total peace and quiet, and we'll go from there.🙂

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jadegardener12 said:Exactly—which is why I'm asking: what does this actually involve? What's the actual process?

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vividrider472 said:Working on the subconscious basically means becoming aware of the emotions tied to specific events or relationships—and then actually integrating them. You can do this through various methods, like what people often call "digging." This involves using a very specific set of questions to guide someone beneath their conscious mind—which, let’s face it, tends to just loop the same old patterns over and over. Ideally, you want to hit those lower alpha or even theta brainwave frequencies—that sweet spot right before you drift off to sleep—to let the answers float up from the subconscious. You can reach that state through certain breathing techniques—which anyone can do—or by how you approach meditation and energy work. The goal during these sessions is for the person to vocalize the emotions as they arise and link them back to specific situations, eventually tracing everything back to a core belief.
It's definitely easier with a therapist, though you can totally do it solo if you practice a bit.

Another great way to clear out the subconscious is through "shadow work"—directly tackling traits we dislike, reject, or feel ashamed of in ourselves (or in others). It makes the conversation much more straightforward, but you still have to ride through those emotional waves until things settle. This method is actually a bit easier to tackle alone, but you need grit—it can take hours if you're dealing with something heavy. Feel free to take breaks or just pick it up again the next day when you're feeling less drained. I'd suggest starting with something smaller and less painful just to get a feel for the process.

Affirmations can work too, but you really have to test them to see if they're actually doing anything. Other alternative techniques are helpful as well.

Once you've worked through something, you check your beliefs again to see how much has shifted. But honestly? The best way to tell is through your reality—how you actually show up for yourself and others afterward.

If anyone has questions, please ask—I don't want to write a novel for no reason! If you want to know how to apply this to your own life, I'm happy to walk you through it using your specific example, but let's stick to Skype or a phone call—I just don't have enough time to type it all out. So, yeah, I'm here.

Oh, and there's some good reading material out there if you're interested.🙂

Just like Benjamin Taylor6 mentioned—there are a few different ways to approach psychoanalytic processing. It’s all centered around conversation, though in this case, it isn't quite the typical session you'd expect to walk into at a therapist's office. The things that surface... they definitely don't feel like the usual thoughts running through your head during a normal day. Honestly, trying to pin this down in writing is pretty much impossible—no matter how I phrase it, you just can't fully grasp the process or what it actually means through a screen. I could show you what I mean 1-on-1, though.

So, here’s a snippet from a conversation I had with someone—perfectly sane, no mental health issues or anything like that—who’s been repeating the same line for a few years now: "I just want some peace in my life." We actually started out talking about something totally trivial, like how they always leave one specific household chore unfinished, but it ended up in this really strange place:

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What would happen once she finally wraps that up?
It would be more organized.
How would it feel if everything was actually in order?
Hmm... there would be... peace.
What's actually the worst thing that could happen during peacetime?

Then she just grabs her head and starts screaming—"I DON'T WANT PEACE! I WANT CHAOS! GIVE ME CHAOS!"—because honestly, once things are finally peaceful, there’s nothing left to fix.
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We’ve hit a few layers where the fear of taking responsibility really starts to surface. To work through that, people often lean on certain visualizations—but honestly, those breakthroughs have to happen naturally, without trying to force them. If you’ve done the work properly, when you look back at those old, painful situations, your whole perspective shifts. You remember things with totally different emotions, and those events just don't carry that same heavy weight anymore—especially the complicated relationships tied to them.

I’m telling you—it all comes down to that brainwave frequency. Just standard small talk isn't going to trigger those subconscious responses or lead to that kind of emotional release. Sure, maybe after endless sessions of talking, but would those deepest, most buried layers actually clear out? And even then, it's not a magic fix—you can't exactly hit a "reset" button on someone's entire life in just two or three conversations.

jadegardener12 said:Alright, but how does one actually pull that off?

I'm not entirely sure what Retra meant—but based on my posts above, I'm really talking about clearing out those subconscious patterns.

mistysailor23 said:The order of operations, as far as my understanding goes:

1. Accept that the issue lies within us.
2. Dig deep into our own psyche to pinpoint the root cause.
3. Confront that cause head-on. This isn't about just layering new commands over old ones—that's a fool's errand. It’s about conscious action designed to challenge the core logic until that entire outdated algorithm simply ceases to make sense to itself.

Or am I just kidding myself?

Roughly, yeah. But, as you know, people usually blame everything except themselves. Even if they do take responsibility, they often do it the wrong way. This whole "self" thing is complicated. If you told a victim of a crime that they were the one at fault, you know exactly how that would go down. But a deep dive would likely reveal a ton of subconscious beliefs like: *I'm vulnerable / I'm guilty / I'm being punished / I'm bad / I deserve this... / I hate myself / I'm pathetic...* or who knows what else. Analyzing yourself is useful and necessary, sure, but it won't always trigger the change you're looking for. Conscious behavior helps, and mental discipline is vital to stop repeating those bad loops—but, as I’ve seen firsthand, it takes a massive amount of effort to heal the foundation of dysfunctional thinking or behavior. You can even have "good" behavior—driven by positive intentions and executed perfectly—yet still end up with an unsatisfying result because of those underlying subconscious programs.

I'd love to have a real conversation about this sometime so you can see what I mean—it's hard to explain it all through text. Right now, I'm working with a woman who's about 20 years older than me and much more experienced with these kinds of analysis and healing techniques; she was absolutely floored by some of the beliefs that surfaced. And honestly, I was stunned by how powerful they were—considering she's been dealing with this stuff for a while, they were just so deeply rooted. Actually, after doing my own deep work, I wasn't just surprised by one of my own core beliefs, I was totally blindsided by it. But hey, it doesn't happen overnight. It happens layer by layer—you can't force it; you can only go as fast as your emotional self allows. With that one specific emotion, it didn't happen all at once—it took maybe five different attempts, little bit by little.
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jadegardener12 said:I honestly don't get it—how exactly are you supposed to flip negative, limiting beliefs about yourself or life into something positive?

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Scott Miller4 said:Through reprogramming.
I mean, you can't really flip a bad belief into a good one; you just layer new ones on top of them.

The problem is you eventually just hit a wall because you're constantly swapping one idea for another, which wastes energy since you're still technically feeding those old patterns.

Honestly, I think techniques focused on clearing out harmful beliefs from your subconscious are way more interesting than just standard reprogramming.

The subconscious connects with the astral plane, pulling changes into your daily reality through manifestation—sort of like that "as above, so below" idea. Basically, if it isn't in your subconscious, it isn't happening. If it is in there, well, maybe it will happen.

Lately, it seems like putting God into your subconscious has become a bit of a trendy thing.

I’d say that by clearing out those limiting beliefs, we’re essentially reprogramming the power of your subconscious—it's like a reset. Those old, negative patterns just fade away as you work through them, letting all those heavy, painful emotions finally resolve and integrate. Once the process is done, you can really test your new status—you'll see the results showing up in your actual life through how differently things function, or more simply, through much better outcomes in everything you try to do.

mistysailor23 said:Thanks,😍 and sorry if I took up too much of your time.
I’m absolutely interested in reading more about this, too.

You're welcome.🙂
It’s hard to say any time was wasted if it actually helped—and maybe it'll help someone else who reads this, too.
Here is what I have.
Regarding digging, I don't have specific books—it's honestly better if I just walk you through the process directly. Actually, it would be even better to guide you through an actual session, since that's a totally different experience than just intellectualizing it. You'd just need Skype, a mic, and at least half an hour.

For shadow work, I have one book (there are others, obviously). I use a method from it involving the direct processing of a concept—though I usually combine digging with shadow work—and it describes other ways to approach the whole thing.

I also have materials for working with the energy system; I use them every single day and highly recommend them to everyone. It involves "mudras"—finger positions used to channel energy into specific segments (covering everything from the physical and emotional to the mental and spiritual levels). Those who are sensitive to energy flow will probably feel exactly which zone of the body is being targeted right away, and over time, that sensation gets stronger. Even for those who aren't naturally sensitive, it eventually develops. The effects show up on other levels pretty quickly, too.

Oh, and there's one book for a slightly longer process—it lasts about ten weeks. The only downside is having to slog through the beginning, about 80 pages of very long-winded, repetitive explanations... it honestly makes my hair stand on end, especially when you already know most of the material. But I did finish it myself (on a second attempt😁, for the reasons I mentioned)—it was really more of an exercise in patience and persistence 😁. It's called *The Presence Process*, and I can't recommend it enough because when done properly, it reaches the deepest layers of imprints within the emotional body—which is always where the trouble starts.

Of course, this info is out there for anyone else interested, so just let me know if you want anything.🙂

Just one more little thing—beliefs can actually be pulled out and swapped for their opposites using energetic shifts, almost like "adjustments" within your energy field. But honestly, it’s usually just temporary—if you don't truly bring things into awareness and integrate them, that old programming is eventually going to crawl right back in.

Oh, I forgot to mention—it’s actually quite helpful, at least at first, to practice some form of thought control while you're working toward that baseline mental peace through deeper changes. Otherwise, the mind just keeps babbling away, constantly reinforcing all those harmful patterns. That includes cutting out negative phrasing entirely, since the subconscious (more often than not) tends to get tripped up by negations. Like, if you say, "I don't want to be broke," you're actually just broadcasting a program for the exact opposite.

Working on the subconscious basically means becoming aware of the emotions tied to specific events or relationships—and then actually integrating them. You can do this through various methods, like what people often call "digging." This involves using a very specific set of questions to guide someone beneath their conscious mind—which, let’s face it, tends to just loop the same old patterns over and over. Ideally, you want to hit those lower alpha or even theta brainwave frequencies—that sweet spot right before you drift off to sleep—to let the answers float up from the subconscious. You can reach that state through certain breathing techniques—which anyone can do—or by how you approach meditation and energy work. The goal during these sessions is for the person to vocalize the emotions as they arise and link them back to specific situations, eventually tracing everything back to a core belief.
It's definitely easier with a therapist, though you can totally do it solo if you practice a bit.

Another great way to clear out the subconscious is through "shadow work"—directly tackling traits we dislike, reject, or feel ashamed of in ourselves (or in others). It makes the conversation much more straightforward, but you still have to ride through those emotional waves until things settle. This method is actually a bit easier to tackle alone, but you need grit—it can take hours if you're dealing with something heavy. Feel free to take breaks or just pick it up again the next day when you're feeling less drained. I'd suggest starting with something smaller and less painful just to get a feel for the process.

Affirmations can work too, but you really have to test them to see if they're actually doing anything. Other alternative techniques are helpful as well.

Once you've worked through something, you check your beliefs again to see how much has shifted. But honestly? The best way to tell is through your reality—how you actually show up for yourself and others afterward.

If anyone has questions, please ask—I don't want to write a novel for no reason! If you want to know how to apply this to your own life, I'm happy to walk you through it using your specific example, but let's stick to Skype or a phone call—I just don't have enough time to type it all out. So, yeah, I'm here.

Oh, and there's some good reading material out there if you're interested.🙂

Here’s a few thoughts on relationships—though, honestly, everything starts with how we view ourselves, like whether we actually love, respect, or accept who we are first.

I can have a happy relationship
I want...
I am allowed to...
I deserve...
I'm terrified of being in a relationship
I know what it feels like to love—and to be loved
I know how to make a relationship work
I am interesting/attractive—or maybe I'm just stupid/boring/pathetic
I am worthy
My behavior is shameful/pitiful...
Women are stupid/exhausting/demanding/a burden...
Men are...
Women/men can be trusted
I hate women/men
I am a masochist—as weird as that sounds, people hold onto this belief more often than you'd think

And pretty much anything else—limiting beliefs can be the strangest things, sometimes ones you wouldn't even believe someone could actually hold.

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Jack Bennett4 said:I am actually quite interested in this as well. I was just thinking about it myself and considering starting a new thread on how to go about reprogramming.

That’s great—I love seeing that people are actually interested in this. Honestly, it would be even better if someone could take these ideas and actually put them to work toward some real reprogramming.🙂
So far, I've had five girls and two guys reach out—I actually chatted with them privately about some of the issues they were bringing up. Only one guy really took the initiative, though. We did a mock interview together, and he’s been putting my advice into practice—slowly but surely, things are starting to shift.

Here’s how I see it—if we're carrying around limiting beliefs or old programming, they basically act as a roadblock to anything we actually intend to achieve consciously. To figure out what's actually running in our subconscious (honestly, I don't care what you call that part of the mind—I just want to know what's in there and how useful the info is), I like using kinesiology for body testing. There are a few ways to go about it, but my usual routine is pretty simple: first, make sure you're hydrated—grab a glass of water before you start. Then, just stand steady and face North. Say "YES" out loud—you can even close your eyes if you want—and just wait for your body to shift. Just... don't force the movement yourself!
A body movement that means "YES" is leaning forward—if it doesn't work right away, we just try again until it does. We’ll do the same thing for "NO"—just say it out loud and wait for the lean backward. These movements help us test any claim, always using an affirmative statement—nothing negative, and nothing phrased as a question.

So, I want to see if my subconscious actually believes that I want—and am capable of—being happy, healthy, loved, successful, and supported. To really test that, I think we need to break everything down and state each intention individually—like, for example:

I just want to be happy—healthy, loved, successful, accepted, supported... one step at a time.
I guess I can be happy... —just a thought—but who knows?
I deserve to be happy—really.
It’s just... well, you know.

Whenever we state an intention, we’re essentially waiting for that physical nudge—that subtle "yes" or "no" from our body (though sometimes it stays totally neutral). That’s the subconscious at work—not really us on a conscious level, though many of those programs can be positive. It's the limiting ones that cause trouble. Think of it like a radio station constantly broadcasting its own signal—which is just the sum of all our beliefs—and that broadcast becomes our reality. Once we pinpoint which programs are holding us back, we can actually start working on them; changing them shifts our entire energetic field, which changes the energy we use to pull certain situations, people, and life events toward us.

It really all starts with the basics—I love myself. If that answer is a "no," then we move on to checking if it's more like "I hate myself." Also, "I am a masochist" is a pretty common program, too.
Moving forward—I’m working on accepting myself and knowing my own worth... I'm also learning how to feel truly respected and loved by those around me.

Thinking about schooling and exams—here’s a quick real-world example based on a situation someone I know ran into:

I’m looking to take my exams—or maybe just graduate—soon.
I can...
Haha, I can't help but laugh...
I know how...
I’m honestly feeling a bit anxious about my upcoming exams—just that nagging fear of not passing or being able to graduate on time.
I'm capable...

I'd like to think I'm pretty sharp—just my two cents.
I'm just being silly—honestly, I feel a bit slow today.

I'm feeling pretty motivated to dive into some learning lately—just one of those moods.
Learning actually makes sense—it really does.
I'm diving into my studies with everything I've got—really putting in the work.
I just want to learn—and actually make it stick.
I can learn—or more like, I can memorize.
I always end up blanking on everything right before an exam—it’s like my brain just hits reset.

Does a degree actually matter? — Honestly, I think there's still plenty of value in it, though the world is changing fast.
Honestly—I feel like I’m just spinning my wheels at this university.
this college is a total mistake
this degree is honestly killing me

the professor is just clueless—or maybe they're just arrogant and blocking my progress
I can actually communicate well with my professor
I know how to handle communication with them...
I feel comfortable talking to my professor without any fear

I'm feeling calm and focused during exams
I can stay calm and focused...
I really want to be...
I know how to be...
my focus tends to slip pretty easily

I'm terrified of exams
I'm intimidated by the professors

I'm scared of being on my own once I graduate
I'm worried about the responsibilities after graduation
once I get that diploma, I'll be totally lost

I'm an optimist
I'm a pessimist

mistysailor23 said:I am in complete agreement with this bold statement. My take is that all our fears—or rather, the roots of those fears, like hatred, jealousy, possessiveness, or greed—stem from those dark, hidden corners of our psyche. They dictate how we make decisions throughout our lives. To put it bluntly, that "subconscious" feels less like my God and more like my own little devil. My God, as Benjamin Taylor6 suggests, would be a higher superconscious offering a clear, realistic vision of life—one where there is absolutely no room or reason to coexist with some outdated, petty demon.

Simply becoming aware that these specific traumas exist within our consciousness is already half the battle in cleaning out those dusty corners.
In fact, that is the very essence of doing the work on oneself.

I’m still waiting for vividrider472 to give me a more detailed briefing on the matter. ☕

Hey, sorry for the wait—didn't forget! I'll be around later tonight and will get that written up.🙂

William Roberts3 said:Subconscious?? Subconscious???? 😕

I read that book back when I was just a kid. Man, the way it's written is totally hypnotic! It really hits you... 🙂

I used to buy into all that too 🙄
But after experiencing a real "shift"—or what people call a "breakthrough" now—I just can't wrap my head around what most folks mean when they talk about the subconscious.

The way I see things now, there's NO such thing as a "subconscious" in the way everyone else defines it.

There's no subconscious, no Superconsciousness, no unconsciousness, no super-awareness, no Divine consciousness, or any other flavor of consciousness! Why do we have to dig so deep and overcomplicate this Simple Consciousness with all these layers, levels, degrees, and dimensions? You can't just split consciousness up into different "classes" or whatever!
Consciousness is everything and everyone!
There is only Consciousness which is aware, but also happens to be aware of all the different explanations it gives itself 🙂.

You could say that Consciousness kind of "limits" itself (just playing around a bit here 🤣 ) as "Something," like the "subconscious." Just Consciousness being limited AS "subconscious"

There's no sub-Consciousness and no super-Consciousness.
In front of it, nobody is special or suppressed, nothing is superior or inferior, and there are no higher or lower states. There's just Consciousness that has temporarily "shaped" itself into something like being Human. And being human is just Consciousness "limited" to a human form.

Just Consciousness.....

.......................................AllIsness

I’m with you—there is only Consciousness. It might consciously limit itself, sure, but not on this specific level of existence. All those other terms are just things people made up to define certain areas where Consciousness is more or less absent, including all the different ways that absence can look. Most people probably won't get what you're saying about Consciousness once you've already moved past the basic concepts.
The terms we use are really just tools—kind of like landmarks to help us start understanding. They have their practical uses, even if they can be misleading or confusing. But even that serves a purpose—it eventually nudges you to go looking for Yourself within, or rather, seeking unity/Consciousness within the individual, whenever you're ready for that search.

Anyway, I'll just leave that here—letting time settle it...

mistysailor23 said:I agree. Through deep self-analysis, we can improve our own lives and even the lives of those around us. First, we need the awareness to realize something isn't quite right with us, then we have to find the bug in the software and attempt to correct that behavioral pattern. It's pretty straightforward. That’s just a common-sense approach to the problem.
But when people claim that the subconscious is God... 🙄

Honestly, forget what everyone else is saying. Just quiet down for a second, ask yourself some questions, and listen to the response coming from your solar plexus.🙂 If you're interested, I could send over some materials for, hm, let's call it mind consolidation and expanding your perception. It's one of the simplest things I know—you work through it on your own, and there's no prior knowledge required, other than reading the instructions on what everything is for and which "position" affects what.
And if you want, I could walk you through what the subconscious actually is using your own example—it's pretty helpful.🙂

Justin Anderson3 said:If you’ve ever picked up Joseph Murphy’s "Power of Your Subconscious Mind," then you know exactly where I’m going with this.
I actually really liked the book. The core concept—that whatever we imprint on our subconscious through our thoughts, feelings, and beliefs eventually manifests as our reality... it shapes everything we go through. It’s pretty wild when you think about it.
But lately, I’ve been falling down a rabbit hole of reviews, and one particular critique really stuck in my craw. It goes something like this: "The Power of Your Subconscious Mind takes Hermeticism and repackages it as applied psychology, pushing New Age principles that spread like wildfire among Christian readers. Instead of praying to God, his methods suggest you're essentially just praying to your own subconscious"—that's what the priest Josip Blažević wrote in his book, "New Age Prophets."
The thing is, since he uses so many religious texts and keeps bringing up God, it feels like he’s throwing God and the subconscious into the same bucket. I just don't get it... are God and the subconscious supposed to be the same thing? 😕?

Not at all. Murphy doesn't treat them as the same thing—God would be more like a higher consciousness, a cosmic principle, or maybe just a universal law. Or even just a specific kind of energy.

mistysailor23 said:What even is the subconscious, really?
Are we talking about those little impulsive actions we can't explain, or is it that constant internal monologue—that nagging voice that won't stop rambling in the back of your mind? Or is it something else entirely?

I find myself nodding along with what mistygull16 was saying.

Honestly, praying to oneself as if one were their own subconscious feels incredibly self-centered to me.
Mind you, I realize I’m playing fast and loose with my terminology here...

Hey everyone.🙂

Trying to pray to your subconscious is kind of a lost cause, really—mostly because that part of the mind is packed with what we call limiting beliefs, patterns, or old programming. And let's face it, those things usually hold more sway over us than our conscious thoughts do. We can influence that subconscious content through intentional action to eventually shift our conscious reality, but it’s a pretty complex process.
Wherever we run into trouble in life, you can bet there are some limiting subconscious programs at play. Someone trying to heal might be fighting one or more deep-seated ideas, like "I don't deserve to get better" or "I'd rather just give up." You usually uncover these through various psychological techniques. People who know their stuff can work through this on their own, though most people see a therapist. That said, there is a simple way to at least identify which beliefs are holding you back, which makes taking next steps much easier. If anyone's interested, I'm happy to write more about it.🙂