Nathan Morris3 said:No, I don't think you quite get what I mean. Let's say you don't give the Bank information about your transactions. Then the Bank tracks your activity, decides you look suspicious, and reports you to the Police Department. The Police Department hits you with some fine. I guess in that case, you might actually be able to sue the Bank because they were digging through your past transactions without permission. Sure, the Bank can access that data, but I don't think that means they can just use it whenever they feel like it. By them asking and you answering, it's like you've basically given them consent to use that info, so they probably covered their bases legally.
..and aren't you afraid of identity theft (from the Bank or some shady teller) where they could do way more damage than just knowing your spending habits?
Who says I'm not scared? I guess I'm just saying this stupid law exists, and well, it exists because representatives passed it.
What I'm getting at is that the law requires banks to update their records. So, they have the right—and the obligation—to update ID info too. I mean, sure, there could be abuse if some teller wants to steal your data, and I suppose there isn't much you can do to stop that. Even if she just copies your ID right in front of you and gives it back, she still has that copy to use however she wants.
What would your actual suggestion be, though? Like, how do we meet the legal requirement but only on your terms?
First things first, you're confusing the most basic concept here—Banks aren't the Police.
It isn't the Banks monitoring your accounts; it's the IRS (or whatever other federal agency has jurisdiction).
A Bank's primary function is sales. That is its core business. Its main goal is figuring out how to make money off the funds you've handed over to them. Everything else falls outside their scope.
If a Bank happens to monitor your account, they're doing it because a government agency ordered them to based on facts that are completely irrelevant to the Bank itself...
...but to be precise, it's not really the Bank "monitoring" anything. They don't have a handful of tax agents sitting in some office on the Bank's payroll doing the government's dirty work...
The Bank simply provides access to the IRS, the courts, or whoever else comes knocking with a subpoena...
...and under current rules, the IRS can audit your account without even asking the Bank for permission, because they have the software access to jump straight into the Bank's system and see whatever they want.
..just like how a federal agency can freeze any account at a Bank without even consulting the institution where the individual's account is actually held.
By the mere act of opening an account, you've already given the Bank permission to handle all your data—your transactions, your spending patterns, targeting you with products based on your preferences, your creditworthiness... When exactly did you think you signed away those rights? When you signed the standard Account Agreement or whatever other product contract you thought you were just signing?
Nathan Morris3 said:No, I don't think you quite get what I mean. Let's say you don't give the Bank information about your transactions. Then the Bank tracks your activity, decides you look suspicious, and reports you to the Police Department. The Police Department hits you with some fine. I guess in that case, you might actually be able to sue the Bank because they were digging through your past transactions without permission. Sure, the Bank can access that data, but I don't think that means they can just use it whenever they feel like it. By them asking and you answering, it's like you've basically given them consent to use that info, so they probably covered their bases legally.
..and aren't you afraid of identity theft (from the Bank or some shady teller) where they could do way more damage than just knowing your spending habits?
Who says I'm not scared? I guess I'm just saying this stupid law exists, and well, it exists because representatives passed it.
What I'm getting at is that the law requires banks to update their records. So, they have the right—and the obligation—to update ID info too. I mean, sure, there could be abuse if some teller wants to steal your data, and I suppose there isn't much you can do to stop that. Even if she just copies your ID right in front of you and gives it back, she still has that copy to use however she wants.
What would your actual suggestion be, though? Like, how do we meet the legal requirement but only on your terms?
I don't have a proposal. This reality doesn't affect my life one bit.
I'm just commenting on your comments regarding this topic. 😁