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Paul Thompson3 said:Meh, if this forum were full of people actually believing they can just swoop in and save someone from rock bottom, maybe we wouldn't be seeing so much nonsense. It’s basically movie logic—the idea that women want to play hero just to feel powerful, usually only if the guy happens to be hot enough. I had a serious girlfriend once who was totally infatuated at first; I told her right away not to put me on a pedestal. Turns out, she didn't actually care about me as a person once I hit my absolute lowest point.
There are some crazy women out there who get a thrill from a man being a total wreck, but honestly, they're rare.
Nowadays, most divorces are initiated by women anyway, so the whole "saving" narrative is a joke. It’s more realistic to say they take what they need and then move on.

I wouldn't go along with that. If that were true, why do so many women end up being the "other woman," thinking they're rescuing a guy from a miserable marriage? Or why do they stay with alcoholics, addicts, or even abusive guys?

Women clearly have an interest when a guy is vulnerable and opens up about his struggles. They lean into it. There’s a definite attraction to a man who's going through a rough patch or showing weakness.

It’s actually the exact opposite of what you're saying. In my experience, men only seem interested when I’m totally composed, strong, and on top of my game. The second I hit a rough patch, it's like they want to wipe me off the face of the earth.
I’ve noticed this thing happening quite a bit—not just with me, but with so many women I know—where we get strangely hooked on guys who clearly "need saving." There are endless examples of this; if a guy starts venting about his life or showing some major "issues," he suddenly becomes way more captivating than the guy who’s got his act together and keeps things low-key.
And honestly, it isn't just about dating; there's this general vibe where women seem to love stepping into that savior role, feeling like someone's entire world depends on them solving a problem.
Is this just some deep-seated maternal instinct baked into us, or is it more about how women have historically been sidelined or treated like victims? Maybe by fixing someone else, we're subconsciously trying to fix ourselves.

It's like, if we rescue them, we somehow rescue ourselves? What's really wild about the guys here in the States is that they don't seem nearly as interested in playing the hero for a woman going through a rough patch. It feels like they expect a woman to be totally seamless and issue-free before they even consider being with her. They aren't looking to step up and play the protector.

It’s such a massive departure from that old-school trope from centuries ago—you know, the whole knight-in-shining-armor thing where the man provides the security and protection.
It seems like modern times have completely flipped that classic script on its head, where the man was supposed to be the one swooping in to solve a lady's problems.

So, it looks like the roles have pretty much done a complete 180, wouldn't you say?