Posts by Gregory Thompson3

Ronald Chavez2 said:The real issue is that if you're going to restrict someone's personal freedoms—which is essentially what self-isolation acts as, a sort of voluntary house arrest—that individual should at least be formally notified and given a way to appeal the decision.

For instance, if I were infected, nothing would stop me from claiming I was out partying with Gregory Thompson3 until the early hours on Saturday, and just like that, I'd be stuck in isolation through no fault of my own. What exactly are you supposed to appeal when there isn't even an official document telling you that you're under quarantine?

Technically speaking, your freedom isn't actually being restricted.
You can go out whenever you want, but just be prepared for the fact that if the police catch you, they'll hand out a fine. 😁

Self-isolation should really just be seen as a way to protect everyone else from you, provided you test positive or have been around someone who did.

Suppose I happen to be infected; there is absolutely nothing stopping me from claiming I was out late on Saturday hanging with Gregory Thompson3, and suddenly I'm stuck in isolation through no fault of my own. What exactly am I supposed to appeal when there isn't even an official notice telling me I'm in isolation?

It should be stopped by something incredibly common.
It's called common sense.

And honestly, that's exactly what seems to be missing from this discussion. 😁

Ronald Chavez2 said:It seems you aren't quite up to speed on the situation, so let me break it down. Self-isolation is also mandated for anyone who has been in contact with those infected, yet the government doesn't even bother testing those contacts unless symptoms actually show up. In other words, isn't it possible for someone to lose two weeks of their life for absolutely nothing?

Furthermore, this article makes it perfectly clear how much of a gray area we're dealing with:

Of all the failures by the Task Force, the stalling regarding self-isolation orders might actually be the worst.

Quentin:

The core issue here is that these quarantine mandates are being enforced within a legal gray zone, offering no avenue for appeal, while simultaneously leaving citizens vulnerable to heavy fines if they dare to violate them. To make matters worse, citizens aren't receiving any formal written notice, nor do they have the right to contest the decision. > has confirmed through several interviews with individuals forced into isolation that these official notices simply aren't being issued.

It's the exact same thing outside of the hospital system.
What's the actual issue here?

I guess I'm just curious what everyone is specifically complaining about when they talk about this being an unlawful state, especially since nobody has ever actually received an official government notice with a formal seal or anything. 😁

Ronald Chavez2 said:You don't get anything official at all; you just get a phone call and that's the end of it, which really shows you exactly how the rule of law operates in this country.

This might sound like an absurd question, but I figured I’d ask anyway.

What does the "rule of law" actually have to do with the fact that you only receive a notification if your test comes back positive?
Do people seriously need some notarized, official document with a government seal just to justify staying home for two weeks because they tested positive for the virus?

Frank Martin2 said:Unfortunately, statistics show that the average American (who, according to the Federal Reserve, accounts for 86.5% of all bank deposits in the US) holds a savings balance of only $3.50. These are figures from a few years back, and I doubt much has changed since then.

For many small business owners, being forced out of work for 14 days is a massive blow. Being out twice is even worse.
A lot of people go under and have to close their doors entirely because they can't access funds during those 14 days.
I know this firsthand; I used to run a small business myself, and believe me, it isn't easy for them.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but think back to how many shops closed down after the spring lockdowns. In my city, there were quite a few closures over the last year, and from what I can see, that trend is continuing.

Being on sick leave for 14 days might not be an issue for you, but for many others, it is.

In the country where I live, those 14 days aren't paid.
Basically, you're looking at losing two full weeks of income because of quarantine, and that's a risk you're taking consciously. If you decide to travel anywhere outside the States, you have to accept that coming home means facing unpaid isolation.

crimsonranger3 said:Psychologically speaking, humans are social creatures, and physically, our bodies are built to cover massive distances every single day.
So, spending 14 days cooped up in an apartment does more damage to my mental and physical health than three days of coughing and popping Tylenol.

The people who disagree are the same ones who comment on everything with a fatalistic "well, it is what it is" attitude.
Like my neighbor, who looks at any heavy downpour and claims, "that's just how it goes," predicting floods and mass casualties. The only difference is that with this virus, the media broadcasts that panic to everyone, fueling widespread fear.

They’re making mountains out of molehills.
I just don't understand why, even after the elections, these idiots are still enforcing these measures. Infection numbers are rising simply because more people are getting tested. They never actually released the percentage of positive cases relative to total tests, did they?

It's no wonder the world is a mess for those of us living in it...

Oh, really? Is that so? 😁

But honestly, about 99% of people spend their waking hours—aside from work—basically staring at a screen or gaming in a total trance, so it turns out the average American is actually a social butterfly who exercises on an Olympic level every day.

I'll take that "covering huge distances" part... 🤣

So, I've been stuck in my apartment for 14 days, which has done more damage to my mental and physical health than three days of coughing and popping Advil.

I honestly think you've been worn down by self-isolation just enough to almost have a valid reason to complain about the government.🤔🤣

So, here’s my two cents.
Since I actually had to quarantine twice because of COVID, I figured I’d share my experience.

The first time, I had this persistent cough. My manager suggested I should probably get checked out, so I called the local clinic nearby and walked them through my symptoms. They set up a test for me right away, and within half an hour, I got a text with the exact time and location to head over. I went in, but the test came back negative. Even so, because of that cough, the doctor advised me to stay in isolation just in case it was some atypical strain. So, I stayed home. About 24 hours later, I got a notification from the CDC letting me know I wasn't positive.

The second time happened when I was flying back into the States. I didn't have any symptoms at all, but I still spent 14 days hunkered down at home. I didn't even bother testing since I felt fine. I just received a few automated texts from the health department—since you have to list your travel history and info when entering the country—asking me to self-isolate and to contact my doctor or the local health authorities if any symptoms popped up. That was pretty much it.

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal to stay in your apartment for 14 days if that's what's required of you.
Especially if you end up testing positive.