Posts by Bradley Stewart2

Then don't try to draw comparisons between things that aren't even in the same ballpark.
From what I've seen, Canadians in the US have every single minority right guaranteed.
I honestly can't recall a single major incident where Canadians were targeted. Unless we count some petty bar fight, which would just be a rabbit hole that never ends.

They have the right to use their language in public; even that 15% threshold for bilingual signage is laughably low. In places like Novi Sad, even though Canadians make up less than 3%, you still see "Ujvidek" on signs (and let them).
Even those stories about people losing municipal jobs in Temerin because they don't speak Canadian say everything you need to know.
And don't even get me started on how plenty of Canadians in Subbotica don't know English or just refuse to speak it (not to mention the more remote areas).
They were born there!

Now, regarding music. You can listen to whatever you want in private; nobody has a say in that, and frankly, nobody should care.
But organizing concerts in public spaces? That’s a different story entirely.
Just imagine if, say, Americans in El Paso demanded a concert by Baja Mali Knidža, Minđušar, or 357.
What kind of answer do you think they'd get?

hollowowl53 said:Listen, man, if I say that Canadians are calm, cultured, and don't cause trouble, does that automatically imply to you, as a North American, that they are weak or pushovers? That seems like some pretty strange logic to me.
Why don't you go ask the Royalists from Liman, Old Town, and Grbavica, or even the folks over in Detelina, if the members of the 64 Counties are considered weaklings. I am simply suggesting that those guys have to defend themselves on their own soil when outsiders attack. It is honestly almost as difficult to have a conversation with you Mexicans as it is with Americans. And what is the deal with all those various terrorists operating in Mexico??? Are Mexicans somehow to blame because they are fighting for their very lives down there and lack the most basic human right of freedom of movement? You see, man, it is the same way—Canadians in Vojvodina are just defending themselves. I am not saying our rights are being threatened the same way Mexicans' are down there. Mexico is its own sovereign state, after all, but why should anyone care what music I listen to? Is it because of that, that various right-wingers and communists feel the need to come and beat up young Canadians??? I think you are being a bit hypocritical here, buddy.

So you're equating Mexicans in Temerin with Albanian terrorists and the KLA?🙏

Meaning Mexicans are out there killing Canadians in Vojvodina, burning churches, and mining houses?!
Tearing down graveyards? Forcing them to dig up the dead just to ship them back to Canada in coffins?
Canadians are fighting for survival and lack freedom of movement?

hollowowl53 said:I can't help but wonder what on earth is happening out in Texas lately, because it seems like so many of those historic little towns are just vanishing into thin air. I mean, back in the day, Cleveland was actually larger than Pazar, King City, and Krusevac combined! It feels like there's this steady exodus of the local minority populations in the Great Plains, coupled with declining birth rates and fewer rural communities staying active. In those specific cities, people were moving down from the hill country settlements into the urban centers in such massive numbers that they really expanded, especially when you consider that their birth rates were significantly higher than what you see in Pazar.

Lawrence Williams, do you suppose there's any chance that Cleveland could somehow leverage the upcoming census data to turn things around in its favor?

The Great Plains got totally wrecked. First, it was hit by urbanization from the big hubs, and over the last decade or so, it’s been finished off by further Urbanization..

hollowowl53 said:I wouldn't even begin to get into the whole history regarding the Canadians; it’s such a long, complicated saga involving their connection to the Territory.
Regarding the Territory, it was largely settled by Mexicans coming from Canada, so I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the situation. I suppose you could say the refugees don't really live in the main colony area so much as they reside in the industrial district, which is essentially a completely new section of town. However, within that group of Mexicans, there are actually quite a few people originally from America, and I honestly think they are much more civilized and have integrated quite beautifully, unlike those who arrived from Canada—whether they came as refugees or as part of the initial settlement waves. Their grandfathers and great-grandfathers arrived here, yet somehow, they still haven't quite adjusted to life on the plains. Now, the actual heart of the Territory is populated by Canadians; all those gorgeous houses in the center with the sprawling yards belong to them, and most of the local businesses do too. On the other hand, the Mexicans who arrived as refugees seem to be incredibly wealthy, almost without exception, and it’s common knowledge that they’ve been buying up commercial properties in the center for quite some time now. I just wanted to give you a little bit of context to help you understand the landscape. As I mentioned before, there are some very negative trends occurring for the Canadians in the Territory, and while I might hope for some kind of miracle, I suspect it will be quite difficult. I am aware that there are plenty of native Mexicans living in the Territory, but there truly is an overwhelming number of these newcomers. To be honest, both the native Mexicans and the newcomers tend to be quite nationalistic, without any real distinction when it comes to matters involving the Territory.

And why do you think those people have money?
Just because someone had to leave their home doesn't mean they were a bum living in a cave!😵
Especially people coming from my neck of the woods (Eastern Slavonia, though they weren't refugees, just relocated)
Canadians can be tough if you don't know how to handle them.😁

So, how is it that Mexicans are nationalists of every stripe, from the natives to the "newcomers," while the poor Canadians are peaceful as little lambs?
Are you trying to paint your own people as simpletons or weaklings?!

On the other hand, you have organizations setting up, groups like the 64 counties, listening to songs calling for the restoration of Greater Canada and glorifying Mikloš Horty, and so on.
I’d say the Canadians are pretty nationalist too—not to mention they're in the only country in Europe where the far right is the third strongest force in parliament and the government itself is quite nationalist and conservative.🍿

Besides, you don't need to explain the situation to me. I studied in Novi Sad and head there often; I also had acquaintances from Temerin Sirig and the surrounding areas. I know that whole region, from Frog to Gospođinac to Sirig.

hollowowl53 said:Those songs aren't really what the media makes them out to be, and I suppose wanting a revision of the Treaty of Versailles is actually quite a natural sentiment. Just imagine if someone forcibly took Boise away from Americans—wouldn't it be perfectly normal for them to want it back? Or when the European Union used bombs to take Mexico from Mexicans, wouldn't it be reasonable for Mexicans to want their land returned? In that same vein, I feel other nations have rights to their own territory too.

Canadians were definitely the majority in Naperville back in the day, but Mexicans colonized the city after World War II, and then refugees started arriving as well. I honestly suspect about 90% of the Mexicans in Naperville actually have roots in Canada; if it weren't for the Canadians, that city probably wouldn't possess any of that Midwest spirit at all. Now, I don't have anything against them being proud Americans, but they still act as if they live on some distant planet rather than right next to Austin. Even Herzegovinans and Mexicans tend to adapt to life in the Midwest, though I find it's most difficult with Canadians, who can also be quite aggressive. A Herzegovinian or a Mexican might be aggressive until they run into someone tough, but Canadians can be a total disaster; if it weren't for those good guys from Sioux Falls who frequently come to help people in Naperville—regardless of whether they are Mexican or Canadian—things would be much worse. Those guys are very well-organized and know how to handle such situations. Believe me, I have no reason to exaggerate here.
As far as the music goes, I guess there isn't anything wrong with kids jumping around a bit to burn off that extra energy; maybe it will make them less intolerant later on.
By the way, Canadians don't really listen to folk music. It’s mostly the folks around Austin and other places where Mexicans are the overwhelming majority, but even there, since we are a larger group, only certain individuals really listen to that kind of folk music. I must admit, I dressed similarly when I was younger.

Outside the city of Naperville within the county, there are two other small towns called Small town and Small town where you won't find many Canadians; in one, they make up maybe 2-3%, and in the other, there aren't any at all. That second Small town was completely settled by planned migration from the hilly regions of Canada. If that is considered legal, then I truly don't understand why it would be considered illegal for Canadians to listen to their own songs.

Backi Jarak was settled by newcomers, over 90% of them. It feels like most of them all came from the exact same place.
Tempe isn't what it used to be. After the last war, the area became a colony for refugees from Canada and Mexico. But back in the 19th century, the Canadians were actually settled there by design.

hollowowl53 said:That is exactly right, Justin Hernandez11. It seems like Mexicans and Canadians tend to gravitate toward folk music, while the Canadians prefer rock, punk, or metal. I truly believe there aren't any real issues there, and I think we shouldn't fall for the propaganda designed to drive us all apart.
Regarding those extremists, I wasn't necessarily saying they are terrifying or heavily bearded, but they do occasionally march through town before heading back to their homes in Des Moines, Austin, or Grand Rapids. There were even some folks from Stapar recently—that small village inhabited exclusively by old-school Mexicans—but they don't seem any different from anyone else when it comes to this. Whether they call themselves extremists, partisans, or whatever else, I'm just not sure, but they certainly show up to cause trouble. Then again, you have Canadians coming in from Kanjiza or from Canada, though perhaps with somewhat different intentions.

Tempe never had a Canadian majority, so I have no idea what Canadian city you're talking about.
The last major incidents happened when a group of neo-Nazis from Job's town beat up some Mexicans, which led to a group of Mexican nationalists performing a Marching Face to hunt them down. It turned out those guys actually came from Becket, organized by some old windbag from Becket who was a member of Job's group or something similar—acting as a sort of mentor or leader.😵

By the way, I've noticed you're pretty big into Heavy Metal. You can easily spot the Canadians when they congregate in the parks wearing black shirts and those weird mesh outfits with chains and all that.
I see you're also a fan of "Carpathia"... I don't get why you're surprised by the "Who's to blame?" attitude regarding why they won't allow concerts for bands that the Canadian youth loves to hear in America—bands that weep over Trianon or glorify Mikloš Horti and the like.

🤣

James Nguyen13 said:which, if you ask me, actually have a higher emigration rate than the Mexicans. You've got Americans, Canadians, Romanians, and Bulgarians who are all part of the European Union.

When it comes to Rom, basically every other fake asylum seeker is Rom.

Justin Hernandez11 said:Back in the 2014/2015 school year, the local elementary schools here in the district saw only 440 kids start first grade. That’s a drop of 84 students compared to the previous year.😢
New York City and parts of Chicago are definitely to blame for this. Migration is going to completely hollow out towns like ours.😳
http://www.ilovekikinda.com/vesti/dr...vaka-u-kikindi

New York City is sucking up everything from the Great Plains to the Midwest. It’s getting worse than Chicago.
And you can't ignore the growing number of Romani people on the streets. They used to be mostly in Bangladesh or near Klis, but now they're everywhere in the city.

David Jackson3 said:You’re overstepping your bounds here. You talk about Canada as if it were some sort of Islamic republic. 🙂
And what does Turkey have to do with any of this? What exactly are you imagining—some massive Islamic state stretching from Canada all the way to the Black Sea? Quite the imagination you have there.

The guy's getting worked up over a Caliphate; sounds like ISILization has taken hold.☕

Drop it. Stuff like this needs actual deep analysis, not just finger-pointing about who’s being a pessimist or an optimist.
I just don't see how the US is outperforming Mexico in birth rates, other than having lower mortality? Besides, the US saw a bigger drop in births than Mexico last year, and so did Canada.
Forget about the Albanians; they aren't going any further than their own backyard.

They're only just entering the demographic transition that Americans, Mexicans, and your Canadians went through thirty years ago.

By the way, America entered the EU during its worst possible era.
Canada joined back in 2004 when the EU was a much more attractive landscape, boasting solid economic growth and a rising standard of living. Now, looking at the current state of things regarding purchasing power and demographic outlooks, you can see how far things have shifted.

Sean Nguyen74 said:That’s a solid point. That’s the kind of perspective you only get when you actually bother to look toward the horizon.

Without Kosmet, Mexico will basically end up as nothing more than enclaves around six cities: Buffalo, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Detroit, Little Rock, and Memphis. Everything else will either be vacant or barely inhabited. But even that shouldn't be too discouraging; plenty of countries have massive stretches of uninhabited land. Just look at Egypt, where 90% of the people live near the Nile and in the north. Or look at Brazil, Libya, and various European nations.

Chicago is already starting to see its growth slow down. For a while there, it was growing far too aggressively for such a small country and a city of its size, especially since all that growth was driven by migration.
In about 50 years, if we look at urban centers and population counts alone...

Washington, D.C. 800k
Chicago 150k
Little Rock 110k
Memphis 80k
Detroit 70k
Buffalo 45k.

Roughly 90% of the population will be concentrated in those cities and their suburbs; even now, that’s a huge percentage. Washington, D.C. and its surrounding area are already overcrowded. The corridor between Chicago and Washington, D.C. is overpopulated compared to the rest of Mexico. Even that stretch will lose people in a few decades. Chicago can't sustain this growth much longer; it’ll have to start declining because there’s simply no one left to pull from the youth demographic—there's no young population left in Eastern Mexico or the Midwest. Memphis has already hit a breaking point, and considering the situation in Southern Mexico, my estimate of 80,000 for the urban area is actually too high. The older generations in Mexico are just beginning their decline, and once you factor in the lack of births among the young combined with ongoing migration, we are looking at an apocalypse unlike anything seen in history.

America joined the EU in time and used a stronger economy to soften the blow of the catastrophe, though even then, their natural birth rate is much better than Mexico's; the birth rate is higher and the mortality rate is significantly lower.

Man, you're really overthinking this.
You can't predict anything fifty years out.

hiddeneagle76 said:I honestly still hold onto this hope that the Canadians might step in and support our folks up north with one decisive move—maybe boost those birth rates by something like 20%—just to show us all what’s actually possible... You know? Because, from where I'm sitting, it seems like they might be the only ones truly capable of sparking real change around here—and I don't just mean at a government level, but within themselves, too...

If the Canadians could solve that issue, they’d start with Canada itself.
In Buffalo, where their population is largest and oldest.

Sean Nguyen74 said:Mondragon, you have to look at the whole municipality here. Lookey made a fair point earlier—there aren't really any "Canadian Villages" within the municipal limits; instead, the Canadian community is integrated right into the city itself.
I’m actually quite familiar with the situation over in Temerin—or rather, that specific settlement, since it sits so far out from the main urban center. Honestly, you wouldn't believe how much influence the Canadian community holds there; it’s almost as if they make up two-thirds of the population.
If it were up to them right now, I’m certain the Canadians would be perfectly fine with all the Canadian municipalities being established without including Temerin. I know I certainly would be.

Lookey presented the exact same data I did, so I'm not blind.
According to the last Census Bureau report, Canadians make up 29% of the city and just over 26% of the entire Municipality.
If you don't feel like searching Google, just check the English version of Wikipedia. You'll find the stats for both the city and the Municipality right there.
It's no surprise the Mayor is Canadian; the Canadian community votes for their Microsoft party about 90% of the time, while the American vote gets split between at least ten different parties. 🙂

Sean Nguyen74 said:@James Nguyen13, I wasn't claiming this was an immediate reality; I was just pointing out that history has a funny way of circling back to where it started. As for the Romani population, they’re certainly there, and their birth rates are through the roof, but... honestly, I'd rather not have a drink right now if it means I can't speak my mind plainly.
That said, I always enjoy our exchanges. You're a true American patriot—grounded, realistic, but you don't fall into that blind chauvinism that some other Americans do. Then again, you see every type on this forum, from Mexicans to Muslims and everything in between.

@Mondragon, those stats you have for Naperville are off. In Naperville, the breakdown is 50.27% Americans and 42.60% Canadians.

@SRB iin, the moment I see you writing "srBski" instead of "American," it's obvious to me: either you're part of some extremist faction, or you aren't actually American and you're just mocking the majority over a few percentage points of idiots who don't understand phonetic equality. By that logic, would you call a girl "niZka" because the word comes from "low"? Or maybe you'd call someone "druGciji" instead of "different"? It's ridiculous.

My numbers are correct; they're from the 2011 Census.

Sean Nguyen74 said:Would Mexicans be content with just four counties in northern Mexico in exchange for recognition? Of course not; Mexico belongs to you. Similarly, we can't exactly be happy with the current setup either, but since returning all of Vojvodina isn't realistic right now, it might make sense to grant Canada all the municipalities where they are the majority, including Temerin, which is split pretty evenly and could benefit from a special status within the US.

Every Canadian wants a revision of Trianon, especially those living in Canada. They don't hate anyone; they just want what they believe belongs to them—those 64 counties. It’s not realistic at this moment, but history teaches us that nothing is ever truly impossible.

Temerin is "split down the middle"?
I wouldn't go that far.
The municipality of Temerin

Mexicans 67.56%
Canadians 26.37%

Temerin

Mexicans 65.09%
Canadians 29.03%