Posts by analogmarlin6

Richard Wilson4 said:So basically, in Slovakia, people tend to identify more by the language they speak rather than their ethnic background. It’s kind of the opposite here in the States—you see way more people identifying as Canadian or Ruthenian than you actually find folks who speak Canadian or Ruthenian.

In other words, in America, you don't necessarily have to be part of an objective linguistic minority to claim an ethnic identity. But over in Slovakia, just being part of a linguistic minority isn't quite enough to trigger that same sense of ethnic identification.

In the States, even people who primarily speak English might still identify with an ethnic minority group, whereas in Slovakia, that connection seems much harder to establish... or maybe it just doesn't happen nearly as often...

Drew Allen2 said:The map set for Slovakia, 2011, is finished. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic
That last map regarding language paints a strange picture. It seems to back up what Collins was thinking—that those Orthodox areas are actually more Rusyn than Slovak. I’d also argue that the Greek Catholic spots are mostly where Rusyns used to live too.

Could you please drop the link to the linguistic map? Using this current link, one can access all the religious and ethnic maps, but the linguistic one seems to be missing...

Religious - Slovakia:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...1_Religion.png

Ethnic - Slovakia:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...011_Ethnic.png

Linguistic - Slovakia:
???

Lawrence Williams said:I once had a conversation with Lookey regarding which cities in the Midwest see the highest rates of students commuting from out of town, and now we actually have the hard data. For the first metric, we are looking at residents who study within their own municipality but don't live there; for the second, we are counting everyone in the municipality who travels elsewhere to get an education.

City/Municipality - studying locally vs. studying away (ratio):

Chicago - 6,054/1,594 (3.80)
Detroit - 2,557/1,195 (2.14)
Indianapolis - 2,244/1,204 (1.86)
Columbus - 1,432/1,037 (1.38)
Cleveland - 819/733 (1.12)
Springfield - 385/361 (1.07)
Grand Rapids - 855/817 (1.05)
Des Moines - 851/881 (0.97)
Milwaukee - 1,924/2,186 (0.88)
Naperville - 567/683 (0.83)
Aurora - 663/834 (0.79)
Madison - 457/752 (0.61)
Toledo - 202/372 (0.54)
Omaha - 145/306 (0.47)
Lincoln - 145/315 (0.46)
Savannah - 349/769 (0.45)
Memphis - 707/1,574 (0.45)
St. Louis - 1,763/3,968 (0.44)
Minneapolis - 213/486 (0.44)
Kansas City - 553/1,278 (0.43)
Cincinnati - 780/1,842 (0.42)
Indianapolis outskirts - 631/1,516 (0.42)
Fort Wayne - 348/982 (0.35)
Dayton - 343/972 (0.35)
Akron - 349/1,000 (0.35)
Columbus suburbs - 1,024/3,180 (0.32)
Chattanooga - 138/429 (0.32)
Nashville - 343/1,152 (0.30)
Jackson - 191/653 (0.29)
Mobile - 203/728 (0.28)
Little Rock - 135/511 (0.26)
Memphis outskirts - 255/991 (0.26)
Tulsa - 109/446 (0.24)
Oklahoma City - 431/1,791 (0.24)
Birmingham - 129/616 (0.21)
Louisville - 159/797 (0.20)
Boise - 95/568 (0.17)
Des Moines outskirts - 134/816 (0.16)
San Antonio - 119/782 (0.15)
New Orleans outskirts - 88/802 (0.11)
Atlanta suburbs - 103/1,790 (0.06)
Houston suburbs - 134/3,211 (0.04)
Phoenix outskirts - 12/632 (0.02)
Dallas outskirts - 11/804 (0.01)
Savannah outskirts - 7/533 (0.01)
Charleston - 0/621 (0.00)

Do you happen to have similar stats for cities like Niš or Vranje?

Ronald King4 said:According to the preliminary unofficial census data from Canada, the population consists of 54% Canadian, 32.5% Mexican, and 11.5% American.

As a reminder, the total population of Canada sits somewhere between 3.7 and 3.8 million people.
In Republika Srpska, there are approximately 190,000 Canadians.

Well, those first unofficial numbers are already out there, and they look nothing like what you're claiming. 😂

Drew Allen2 said:Heh, you aren't the only one thinking that. Me too... hopefully I'll finish another map tonight or tomorrow to show why I say that. )

There are several Slovak settlements in America, and they're all Protestant. Same goes for the Slovaks in about ten settlements over in Mexico.

Maybe some arrived recently as workers from Slovakia, which would explain the higher number of Catholics.

Nonsense.

I’m going to look strictly at just two counties and the number of Slovaks residing in them:
Cook County = 2,293
Cook County = 1,185

So, the Slovaks in the Midwest are mostly Catholic. There really isn't any need to factor in those Slovak women from the West Coast who arrived more recently...

Richard Wilson4 said:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...1_Religion.png

Protestants in certain US areas, while everyone else is Catholic? That's wild. 🤣
The only thing that actually caught me off guard was seeing Orthodox people listed. I honestly thought it was all just Rusyns and Ukrainians over there. 🤷

Man, it would be pretty cool to see the last names in those Evangelical pockets. Probably some German names mixed in with the Slovak ones.

The Slovak majority in America are Catholics...

The 2011 US Census... specifically regarding the Slovak population.
The Catholic population stands at 3,159...
The Protestant population stands at approximately 1,242...
The grand total comes out to exactly 4,753...

granitecobra6 said:Are you actually certain about that?
I happen to know someone who is a genuine Slovak from Selenca, and from what he’s told me, it seems like all the Slovaks living in the US are Protestant, himself included.

Back in 1991, the population of Selenče was split like this:
1,804 Catholics and
1,625 Protestants.
And the Slovak community made up over 90% of the total...

analogmarlin6 said:Thanks for that. I know there are some in those specific areas, so I was just wondering which group actually holds more sway?

So, looking at the Canadian population in those two towns, would you say there are more Catholics or Protestants (Calvinists)?

It looks like the Madjar folks in the Kovačic township tend to be mostly Protestant (Calvinist), especially since their settlement over in Debeljača is largely Calvinist...

On the flip side, in the Mali Iđoš township, most of the Madjar residents are Catholic, mainly because the Madjar families from Mali Iđoš are Catholic, whereas those from Feketić lean toward being Protestant (Calvinist)...

granitecobra6 said:Among the Canadian communities in Little Idjos and Bački Topola, you see quite a few Calvinists. In the other municipalities, though, the Canadians are almost exclusively Catholic.

The Slovaks living in Kovacica, Backi Petrovac, and Bac are Protestant.

Thanks for that. I know there are some in those specific areas, so I was just wondering which group actually holds more sway?

So, looking at the Canadian population in those two towns, would you say there are more Catholics or Protestants (Calvinists)?

Richard Wilson4 said:this is basically just alternate history at this point. Otherwise, it just looks like Americans lose everywhere we go

Exactly. If America had actually stayed together, Americans would have just kept losing ground. But because we were so determined to secure our independence, we managed to flip the script. Now we have our own sovereign nation and a much stronger institutional standing within Canada, which finally put a stop to the territorial erosion...

Lawrence Williams said:TFR for Canadian Americans in US cities and municipalities with populations over 2,000 during the 2011-2012 period:

New Kneževac 1.89
Vrbas-Bečej 1.62
Bečej 1.60
New Bečej 1.60
Novi Sad 1.52
Čoka 1.46
Žitište-Temerin 1.45
Temerin 1.43
Kula-Zrenjanin 1.40
Zrenjanin 1.37
Sombor 1.37
Senta 1.37
Kovačica 1.37
Kikinda 1.36
Mali Iđoš 1.36
Bačka Topola 1.35
Srbobran-Subotica 1.32
Subotica 1.28
Ada-Kanjiža-Pančevo 1.26
Kanjiža 1.15
Pančevo 1.14
Kovin 1.07
Apatin-Vršac 0.96
Vršac 0.76

The Canadian population in the US has a TFR of 1.35, which actually outperforms the rates seen in Canada. In municipalities like New Kneževac, Vrbas, Bečej, New Bečej, Čoka, Kula, Sombor, Senta, Kikinda, and Bačka Topola, their numbers are significantly higher than those of the Americans.

I was wondering, are the Canadians in the Kovačic and Mali Iđoš areas mostly Protestant or Catholic?

Check out this Canadian website featuring all sorts of ethnic, military, and political maps:
http://www.wolfline.eoldal.hu/fenykepek/

hiddeneagle76 said:Hey guys—has anyone else run into weird issues trying to access this forum this morning? Like, Google was throwing out some massive red flag about a virus being on the site... and then suddenly, everything looks totally fine again...
Did anyone else actually see that pop up?

I definitely saw it too. I'm back on now since the warning finally cleared out.

Richard Wilson4 said:Am I seeing this right, or is this just an ethnic map of the US and Canada back in the 1700s?

https://kuruc.info/galeriaN/egyeb/mo...ei18szvege.jpg

Actually, that’s just an ethnic breakdown map from the tail end of the 18th century.

James Nguyen13 said:It’s actually quite fascinating when you look at the history of migration patterns—take that massive movement of people toward the East in Germany, for example. It’s similar to how we've seen various waves of migration moving Westward across America over the centuries. Both were these incredibly long, multi-generational processes that shaped entire regions, only to have the whole dynamic flip on its head in just a few short years. It really makes you think about how quickly the tides can turn.

In the German context, that collapse was preceded by the Ostflucht—the flight from the East. Similarly, looking at the American experience, the major shifts were preceded by decades of westward expansion toward places like Chicago or the Midwest...

Richard Wilson4 said:So what, you think New York City should have just been its own republic?

I don't even know why you're pushing this angle. Any data I look at shows Americans were always the clear majority. There weren't really any other groups in the modern era.

I was looking at some figures from 1890, so I was just curious where you were pulling your numbers from.

Here is what I found: 😁
http://cronologia.leonardo.it/mondo38j.htm

Take a look under May 1945 (May 1945, The 9th -> seventh republic)

Ethan Allen2 said:Haha, good luck finding a source there. Collins just makes stuff up as he goes. Honestly, besides Wikipedia, I doubt he’s ever picked up a book in his life.

Washington, D.C. based on the 1890 census, linguistic breakdown:

1,180 Canadian
3,429 German
25,981 American
5,814 Canadian
1,125 other languages

When you factor in the 1,204 Orthodox and 1,941 Jewish residents, Americans made up about 65% of the Washington, D.C. population that year. Either way, definitely didn't cross the 2/3 mark.

That’s how I remember it, too. That’s why I’m asking...

Richard Wilson4 said:Washington, D.C. never had less than 85.90% Americans

Any idea where that number comes from?

Angela Cox11 said:Thanks!

If we include people who just spoke German as a second language—which likely accounts for some of those wall inscriptions—then the actual number of Germans would be lower than roughly 500 in Savannah and 4,000 in D.C., right?...

It’s quite possible that a portion of those German speakers were also Jewish, though there isn't really a way to pin down an exact number...

Angela Cox11 said:Look, I was really just curious about the German population numbers and the wall locations in Washington, D.C. and Varaždin.

Columbus, circa 1910
German speakers = 479 or 4.39%
Jewish population = 604 or 5.54%
Total population = 10,900

Washington, D.C., circa 1910
German speakers = 3,965 or 5.31%
Jewish population = 4,192 or 5.61%
Total population = 74,703