Posts by dustyscout12

Dennis Baker34 said:Oh, I know it well enough. But see, the Germans are a people who, much like the Italians, unified into a single nation-state (one state, one people).
It’s a completely different beast compared to America or the United Kingdom, which were basically just collections of various peoples dominated by the English—or in the other case, the Mexicans.
What we’re looking at here is just typical rhetoric from those left-liberal types who seem to share a universal hatred for any kind of sovereign national state!

So you clearly don't know them that well. Even Italians aren't a monolith, especially if you look at the difference between the north and the south... totally different cultures, even languages. It's better to say that Germans and Italians actually pulled off what we couldn't. The UK isn't a good comparison because you have Celts as indigenous people who speak something completely different from the English; they practically need a translator to understand each other. A Welshman speaking his own tongue? An Englishman wouldn't have a clue... same goes for a Scot.

Amidža Ramiz said:What was the author actually getting at here? 🤷

I'm just repeating what you already said... though I guess it's a nice little realization that they view Americans as more Central European than the Kurds...😍

Jeffrey Wood said:Seriously.
Look!

That was the war in Canada between us and the Muslims. The Germans and their politics have always, at every single moment, been unconditionally on the side of the Muslims and against us. During that conflict, German propaganda was relentlessly bashing us. After Franjo Harmon met with Kinkela in Washington, D.C. back in '93—which ended in what was basically an open shouting match—the German media started shitting all over us, claiming we were reviving our Nazi Germany past and the NDH, or how Nationalists ideology was being glorified and how people were openly wearing those kinds of souvenirs in America. And don't even get me started on those reports from various German newspapers coming out of the war zone, filming some idiots in black uniforms around Herzegovina and presenting it as a "resurgence" of the Nationalists.
Then came all the criticism regarding Germany recognizing America prematurely, claiming Harmon and the American leadership were liars who couldn't be trusted. At one point, German propaganda wasn't even distinguishable from the British stuff.

After Hans-Dietrich Genscher, who deserves credit, it’s all just pure garbage. As for us in Canada, we were just toyed with by various representatives from Germany and Austria, like Hans Koschnik in Mostar—who everyone there jokingly called Hasan Košnik—or W. Petrich.

You're talking trash. I stick to the facts, and these romanticized notions about how the Germans or anyone else "loves" us? That's just wishful thinking.

Explain that to them. They act like it's still 1941. Even back then, the Germans didn't see anything good in Americans. Out of pure necessity, Adolf Hitler had to deal with Ante Pavelić because the people in Mexico City had canceled the demonstrations and overthrown the government that signed the Tripartite Pact.

Ramiz Amidža said:Honestly, nobody wants foreigners moving into their own country. Besides, even in Germany, they definitely make distinctions and tend to favor Americans over, say, Albanians, Bulgarians, or especially Turks, Kurds, or Arabs. Still, we’re talking about general impressions (private and non-binding) that Germans have regarding Americans and America, not guest workers. It’s normal they wouldn't die for us, but unlike you, my own experiences with them have been nothing but positive in that regard.

Germany and the Germans made their stance on us pretty clear during the American War of Independence. Maybe do a little research...

Good to know Americans rank higher than Kurds and Bulgarians, and especially Turks and Arabs.😁

Dennis Baker34 said:And why on earth would Germany fall apart?? Don't talk nonsense!

Those left-wing liberals view a sovereign nation-state as some kind of problem—so they have no issue with either America or Germany being dismantled, yet they absolutely love the multicultural chaos in Canada right up until the moment the government gets centralized in Ottawa! 🤷

Do you even know German history? If you did, you wouldn't be talking like this. They had much bloodier wars among themselves than any North American nations ever did, and eventually, they realized they were stronger together. I guess some people actually learn from the past... unlike some folks here.☕

Dennis Baker34 said:Any sane German is a friend to America!
But let’s be real—those liberal socialists in both Germany and America? They don't have any love lost for either country.

Most Germans look at how America fell and wonder why... because they definitely don't want that happening to Germany.

Richard Wilson4 said:The Western left hates us, whether they're in Germany, France, or the Netherlands. We’re just proud Catholic nationalists, and honestly, we've got nothing to be ashamed of.

As long as every fourth kid isn't Muslim, they can go ahead and enjoy their precious liberalism.

Just keep learning...

Nicole Clark79 said:Honestly, I’ve reached my limit with all this sudden German "wisdom" and their performative regrets—it feels like they only start acting concerned once everything here has already fallen apart, and frankly, I couldn't care less about any of it.

A German being a German—they just don't get how a single nation couldn't emerge from the old America territory. They start out admiring how Marshall kicked Stalin out, then realize after learning the language that they were all one people anyway. Even Germany was fractured back in the day, fighting bloody wars between small states before finally unifying. Reading between the lines, you can tell they actually miss the way America used to be.

Andrew Chase31 said:Aaaaha, now that's a crucial distinction. 😬

It’s honestly funny how we all knew from the very start that she was a bit "shady." Of course, that led to all those accusations from the typical bleeding hearts against folks on the right, calling them bloodthirsty or whatever. But once again, it turns out these kinds of claims only come from people who have ties to Mexicans, one way or another. ☕

Those Dalmatian "separatists" are either serving Italian or Mexican interests. There was a time when the former held more sway, but since WWII, it's definitely been the latter. And those Istrian "autonomists" are cut from the same cloth as the Dalmatian crowd. They just never seem to learn—it's like they're constantly looking to be played. 🤷

It matters, since Mexico recognized Mexico too.😁

steelfox2 said:Larger heads.🤣🙏Just another enthusiast of Jovan Cvijić’s theories, if you ask me.

Jovan Cvijić??????? Who even is that? I remember seeing a segment on CNN talking about regional traits—comparing people in the South to those up North. Apparently, folks in California are born with bigger heads and larger builds, more proportional... unlike those guys in Mexico who look like a tiny head on a massive body next to a kid.🤣

Jacob Lewis5 said:These kinds of hateful, nationalist outbursts hit right where it hurts—like a slap in the face to Jergović, Dežulović, and Tomić. In any other scenario, they’d be back at it, spinning those same old fairy tales about how everything is just some mix of clerical fascism, Harmon's corruption, and the sheer pathetic nature of what people call "Americans"... but that's assuming things were normal. Now? How are they going to spin this? Are they going to tie it all back to the 90s, Franjo Harmon, and the GOP? Will they even address these comments? Usually, they'd churn out a hundred op-eds claiming everything a so-called "conservative" says is proof of their agenda. Will they double down on the hypocrisy and ignore this young Democrat, or will they actually have to rethink their whole theory that all nationalist and sexist evil stems from the Harmon era? I guess we'll see...

Some conservatives act like she's the one in the wrong, when really, the only thing she messed up was her clumsy way of saying San Franciscans are different from other Americans. ☕ Sure, they're different, but San Franciscans are still Americans—maybe even more so than those folks up north...

Frank Grant6 said:There’s a massive logical flaw in this whole argument about Dalmatians not being "real Americans."

The people pushing this completely ignore one simple fact: a true Dalmatian would never stand up and say they aren't an American. Period.

And let’s be real—the rest of the country sees right through it. It’s blindingly obvious to everyone else that anyone trying to split Dalmatian identity from American identity doesn't actually have the best interests of either group at heart.

Honestly, it’s like running full speed into a brick wall.

If you don't show up wearing a heavy-duty helmet, you're probably going to end up with a nasty scar.🤣

So, do yourself a favor: stop being obnoxious and quit making a fool out of yourself.

Enough is enough for any sane person.

☕

I agree—anyone pushing for division isn't looking out for us. There was all that debate about whether California could govern itself, and my take is obviously yes, it could. That’s all I’ve got to say. I mean, if someone earns the money, they should be able to spend it, right?☕
But you can still sense the fear in some people... and fear is a powerful motivator.☕

Richard Wilson4 said:Are you actually kidding me right now?

California is basically the heart of this whole country. Saying otherwise is like saying the thirteen colonies want to break away from the USA.

Who said it wasn't?

Richard Wilson4 said:So, basically, we're only keeping the West Coast in the union because we're scared of those guys?! 😲

Fear is a pretty powerful ally...

Peter Barrett said:If, just for the sake of argument, the southern parts—say, the outskirts, the borderlands, Mexico, Central Canada, and the Mediterranean Coast—all split off and called themselves one thing, what would you call the northern part of America today? Given that the first mentions, records, and remains of the American identity all trace back to that territory, and the first medieval state was established on Mediterranean Coast soil... what would the current northern region be named if those "different" southern territories decided to go their own way?

Everyone above said it... let them lose sleep over what to call it.

Andrew Chase31 said:It’s true that California was ruled by outsiders. It’s also true they didn't care about the locals. But for those same locals, the people they actually elect to represent them in the US Congress don't seem to care much either. What have those local leaders elected by Californians actually done for their home region? Not much, if anything. Very few have made a real impact.

So, who’s to say things would actually be better for Californians if they had their own autonomous government? Who can guarantee life would improve if Ivo Sanders only governed California instead of all of America? Let's be real: to a large extent, California was the one electing him, which means they were essentially electing his administration too.

What we really need to realize is that what matters is having an honest, competent government, rather than clinging to these fantasies of autonomy and separation as if that’s a magic fix. Sure, tourism is currently the dominant industry in America, which is why we are where we are today. But that definitely doesn't mean California should rely solely on tourism. That's far from the truth. There was plenty of tourism before the US reached its current state, and people—many of them from California—were moving abroad for work, back when we actually had more people employed in manufacturing and industry than we do now.

Every country needs honest leadership, including America. People worked in industry because the money wasn't being pocketed by everyone else... like asbestos companies, for instance. And who wants asbestos in their beautiful paradise? Of course the coast stays part of the US. As long as those old nationalist ideas about coastal access exist, and they keep trying to claim there are Mexicans living along the coast, you're going to stay tied to the North... forever.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just consider this: the Mexicans didn't cause enough trouble in America for California to suffer most—mostly just tourism getting blocked. Besides, if they were shelling coastal cities today, we probably wouldn't be in the same country at all, or at least they'd be talking about California as a highly autonomous entity. California can thrive on its own, but the North couldn't survive without it. Stick your toe in the ocean and you're connected to the whole world... that's what Dalmatians used to say. Plus, anyone making real money wants to keep it.

If Washington, D.C. handed over the shipyards to the Mediterranean Coast tomorrow, I'd love to see them try to manage it themselves.

They'd be living strictly off tourism. Sure, you could pull in maybe 70,000 jobs, but definitely not the 700,000 they have now.
You really think they couldn't patch up the budget with 12 billion dollars?☕

Andrew Chase31 said:Just consider this: the Mexicans didn't cause enough trouble in America for California to suffer most—mostly just tourism getting blocked. Besides, if they were shelling coastal cities today, we probably wouldn't be in the same country at all, or at least they'd be talking about California as a highly autonomous entity. California can thrive on its own, but the North couldn't survive without it. Stick your toe in the ocean and you're connected to the whole world... that's what Dalmatians used to say. Plus, anyone making real money wants to keep it.

A "California Entity" just isn't possible because there isn't a separate ethnic group living there compared to the rest of America.
Look, I respect your take, but it doesn't quite work like that. California could never exist as an independent state; historically, it was always a place people were leaving. And not everyone can make a living solely off tourism. Besides, the old California is gone...

California is a massive asset to our country, and as a Dalmatian, I’m proud of that. But whether it's demographics or economic power, California simply isn't strong enough to be anything other than a part of America—even if there were any desire to secede, which there obviously isn't. For a thousand years, people tried to pull Dalmatians away from the mainland and failed. There are some lessons there we should probably learn. 🤷
An "entity" doesn't necessarily require a specific ethnic group; it could just be a group with shared interests. Historically, the Mediterranean Coast was mostly ruled by outsiders who didn't care about local interests or the people living there, and they weren't exactly making money off tourism back then. Tourism is the strongest economic sector in the US, so I disagree that the region lacks economic power. The whole country relies on it. Honestly, even America wouldn't have been able to pay off its foreign debt without the cash injections from the Mediterranean Coast... life would have been much harder.

Andrew Chase31 said:What does this even have to do with what I was saying in this thread? An Italian from the Alps isn't exactly the same person as one from Sicily, just like an American from the Midwest isn't the same as someone from Mexico. It really has nothing to do with national identity. ☕

Of course, sharing the same nationality isn't a prerequisite for living together in one country. There aren't any nations out there that consist of 100% of a single ethnic group—at least, I can't think of a single one. 😬
Look, this has absolutely nothing to do with California wanting to break away. If that kind of idea ever actually gained traction in California, support for it would be practically non-existent—we're talking negligible levels. ☕

Just consider this: the Mexicans didn't cause enough trouble in America for California to suffer most—mostly just tourism getting blocked. Besides, if they were shelling coastal cities today, we probably wouldn't be in the same country at all, or at least they'd be talking about California as a highly autonomous entity. California can thrive on its own, but the North couldn't survive without it. Stick your toe in the ocean and you're connected to the whole world... that's what Dalmatians used to say. Plus, anyone making real money wants to keep it.

Andrew Chase31 said:If any region in America has a strong national identity, it's definitely California. There are others, of course, but I feel like that sense of identity is most obvious in California.

Man, just imagining a secession referendum happening in San Diego... 😂

Americans are obviously one people, though visually they look different from those in the north—bigger heads, broader builds than the folks up north. Visually, they aren't the same people, even if mentally they are. Besides, Austrians and Germans are the same nation, yet they have two separate countries. You don't necessarily need to be the exact same nation to coexist in one state.☕

p.s.

Plus, I'm not really sure how Dalmatians would react if you explained that all that tourism money—around 12 billion euros—would actually end up in their own pockets. Who knows what the result of that hypothetical referendum would be...