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I was watching some old clips of Olympic training sessions the other day—you know, those grainy, grainy videos of athletes practicing the same movement hundreds of times—and it got me thinking about the sheer mental fragility required to pursue excellence in any high-stakes discipline. We always talk about the physical conditioning, the diet, the hours of sleep, and the muscle memory. But we rarely dive into the sheer, paralyzing terror that sits in the gut of someone who knows that a single millisecond of error, a single microscopic slip in traction or balance, can essentially erase years of sacrifice in a heartbeat.
I’ve seen this in my own life, though on a much more mundane scale. I used to play competitive tennis back in my late teens. I wasn't exactly heading for Wimbledon, but I lived for the rhythm of a good rally. I remember one specific match where I had a momentum surge going, feeling absolutely untouchable. Then, I missed a relatively simple serve—not a bad one, just a slight misalignment—and suddenly, my entire internal compass broke. I didn't just lose the point; I lost my sense of what I was capable of. I spent the next three games playing "scared," which is the worst way to play any sport. You stop playing to win and start playing not to lose, and once you enter that defensive, fearful mindset, the game is basically over.
But when you scale that feeling up to someone whose entire livelihood and identity are tied to physical precision, it feels almost existential. How do you ever truly "recover" from the moment you realize your body might betray you? It’s one thing to lose a game or fail a test; it’s a completely different beast to experience a moment where the physical laws of the world seem to turn against you. There’s this terrifying realization that your mastery over your own limbs is actually an illusion, and that the margin between "perfection" and "catastrophe" is thinner than a fingernail.
I wonder if we put too much emphasis on "resilience" as a buzzword. We tell athletes, artists, and even high-level professionals to "just bounce back," as if mental recovery is as simple as icing a bruised knee. It ignores the fact that the trauma of a sudden, violent failure isn't just physical—it's a fundamental shattering of confidence. It’s a crisis of faith in one's own skill. If you can't trust your hands, your feet, or your equilibrium, then who are you?
I also think about the spectators. We sit there in our comfortable chairs, cheering for the "heroic comeback," but we don't realize that the person we are watching is currently navigating a mental minefield. We want the drama of the fall and the glory of the recovery, but we don't really consider the quiet, lonely period of doubt that follows. Is it even possible to return to that level of peak performance without a lingering, subconscious hesitation? Or does the fear of the repeat mistake become a permanent passenger in your mind, quietly pulling the reins every time you try to push the limit?
I’d love to hear from anyone here who has dealt with a major setback in a skill-based hobby or profession—whether it's music, sports, coding, or something else entirely. When you hit that wall where your confidence is completely demolished, how do you actually start rebuilding? Is it possible to ever truly go "all in" again, or are you always just managing the fear?
Eric Taylor5 said:I suppose if someone truly grasps a profound saying, they become a bit wiser themselves through that understanding, though I guess some insights do require a bit more intellectual heavy lifting.
Once again, you're dragging us right back to square one. 😉
People just can't read between the lines. 😛
It's the same old story. When a wise person hears a deep truth, they recognize it immediately. But those who fail to grasp it? It's useless to them. 😳 And honestly, it's barely useful to the people who *do* get it, because they already knew it anyway. 😍
serotonin 😬
If you’re asking about short-term happiness, my answer lies in the little things.
But if you want to know about long-term happiness? There’s only one answer: it’s found in my ability to take ugly situations and twist them to my advantage. It's about not expecting too much and refusing to lie to myself with some delusional illusion of perfection...
I don't think I need to say more, you've made your point. But if you ask me, they really ought to start teaching people how to understand their own psychology from a much younger age. It’s the only tool we truly have to actually heal ourselves.
Looks more like one giant stomach to me...😍 So, were you trying to represent infinity there too, dustyskipper3?
placidharbor7 said:Most of you folks here already know the deal—you're busy transferring your own emptiness into more emptiness.
Only once you've finished that necessary work can you perhaps sense that the MASTER is transferring something into YOU as well. Until then, you're just fruitlessly wrestling with the MASTER—better to finish your homework first—cleanse yourselves internally for COMMUNION.
Look, I never claimed to know everything. And if what I say offends you, why are you working so hard to prove my point? Instead of giving me a reason to think otherwise.
All I see from you is this constant attempt to act superior to everyone else, like you're some kind of grand master!
I tried asking questions, I offered to listen without judgment, I even tried to provoke a real reaction, yet you stay guarded as if these posts are coming straight from the devil himself!
I asked what you thought of me and specifically asked you to categorize me just so I could see how your mind works.
The whole time, I’ve been trying to pull something meaningful out of you because I hoped you actually had something good to say. I wanted to have a decent conversation and figure out if your "truth" was even worth all this effort on your part.
But no, you see malice and dirty intentions in absolutely everything.
My intention was purely to help, but your positive thoughts just won't surface.
Until you sort your own issues out and stop seeing sin in everyone, this is going to be impossible (don't take this post as shouting; I'm writing this calmly, but frankly, what else did you expect?)
hollowpuma762 said:Well, I guess that means we've gotta unlearn how to look at those pre-drawn boxes in the first place. 😉
We look at those damn blueprints every single day. Honestly, it’s the only way we know how to explain things to people—just shoving everything into pre-made slots.
😳That was a metaphor, for what it's worth.🙂
hollowpuma762 said:Sometimes the whole point is just to strain your brain trying to decipher the nonsense.
Not all knowledge is served on a silver platter or just handed down to you. A sage might just show you the exit instead.
Nobody gets to open every door by themselves. Not even a sage.
A sage doesn't have to, nor necessarily can, hand over their wisdom. The goal is to trigger a realization within someone else.
There are plenty of variables at play there, and most of them have nothing to do with the person doing the talking.
I definitely see the skepticism regarding a "sage" who isn't clever enough to pass on what they know.
Peter Phillips32 and I have already discussed this—you need at least two people for any real interaction to happen.
A sage isn't obligated to, nor necessarily able to, present their wisdom. The goal is to spark insight in someone else.
There are too many variables involved that don't depend solely on the teacher.
That’s the truth right there.
I'd agree that the whole concept of a "sage" is questionable if they aren't actually wise enough to pass on what they know.
Exactly. That's the problem. You end up with a "sage" who lacks the basic competence to convey their own knowledge.
We all have that one moment in our lives where we finally "get it," but the real test is whether we're wise enough to pass that on to someone else—assuming they're actually listening and ready to learn.
dustyskipper3 said:No, my dear steeleagle13, it’s more like an Audit at o. K. Kontroloral:
It’s not just some worker; it’s a MASTER
It isn't about being a "senior machinist" or taking a "short course in CNC"; it’s about true "mastery"
They aren't "naked, barefoot, starving, unarmed, and suffering from typhus," they are simply "unprepared and lacking gear"
It’s not "commissars" overseeing "partisans," rather, the "upper tier" of the hierarchy oversees the "lower tier"
I suppose the only thing that remains identical between both sides is the sheer amount of smoke and mirrors being sold.🙂
Exactly I stepped up to be the vocal
apprentice for a day (just wanted to see what the man had to say when forced into such a corner
but
the master says no! He claims apprentices don't learn, they just endure life's challenges)
That sounds like someone sitting in the middle of a field claiming they're building a house while waiting for it to construct itself....
I am trying my hardest to get something out of him, but nothing.😍
I throw questions his way, but he dodges me.
It feels to me like our
master is just transferring air from one void to another...
(Let's see if this provocation actually stirs him...
though I highly doubt it, but whatever)
placidharbor7 said:Of course the master has no clue if that "hand" even exists.
So, maybe it would be a great idea for you to sit down and have a little chat with the young master steeleagle13 instead!?👍
Master, just give it to me straight—how much do you actually know about me? Please, just don't dodge the question with another one of your rhetorical questions.
And please, if you can, just toss me into one of those religious boxes and be done with it.
placidharbor7 said:The exact same force that wakes you up in the morning, hands you love, sickness, and puberty, carries you toward destiny and death, and points you toward transcendence—is the very same force that poses your absurdly arrogant question.
Higher consciousness is the sign that binds us together, then splits us into parts during this life, only to unite us once again in death. It’s a higher awareness acting through us throughout our existence, allowing us to observe the world and realize we are all just extensions of the same hand and the same mind...
To even attempt to lead such a profound message, you're clearly disconnected from it based on how you talk and act. Don't go attacking your own hand if you actually know it exists.
placidharbor7 said:They’re the ones who truly grasp the essence of the Tao—yet they don't waste even a single breath talking about it! Instead, they pour all their energy and time into everything else. That's the secret, isn't it? You have to learn how to flow with life.😲😍
Oh yeah, that’s just brilliant. Best advice I’ve heard all day.
So tell me, exactly who or what am I supposed to be "adapting" to? 😁
(I'm going to squeeze you dry with questions like a lemon; as long as you've got something to say, I'm staying right here, you hear me?😍)
placidharbor7 said:Quote:shamantrixx says: Actually... I was just repeating an old aphorism to you!
I remember Alan Watts once quoting (if I recall correctly) Lao Tse, who famously noted: "Those who know do not say, and those who say do not know"
...to which Alan quipped: "and yet he said it." 😁
So, there you go—I basically just sold you that same little joke! 😁 |
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Honestly, the people here who are still searching for the Truth seem to need a picture book to understand this. What Lao Tse is actually getting at is this:
"Those who know the TAO do not say ANYTHING ABOUT IT."
Beginners completely shut their mouths when faced with a true sage—and that's exactly why they stay beginners, isn't it?
And in your eyes, who exactly qualifies as a "true sage"?
Peter Phillips32 said:Look, forcing your own negative baggage onto someone else—deciding exactly who they are based on your own shitty perspective—is just bad form. It’s not helpful for anyone. You know that old saying about how if you tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth? Well, that's exactly how it works with people. If someone is feeling particularly fragile or unstable, they might actually start believing your low opinion of them is their reality.
Personality isn't some static, unchangeable thing carved in stone. Throwing around lines like "well, that's just how they are by nature" is a total misunderstanding of how humans actually work.
People end up tearing themselves down because they're lying to themselves, and once you start living a lie, you inevitably end up deceiving everyone else around you too.
Do you really think that's possible? Ever since we were kids, we've been taught to put people into little boxes. Even when we realize nobody is just one single thing—everyone is a mix of many things—we still fall back on those labels. Does that mean most people aren't actually wise?
What are the actual traits and virtues of a wise person versus their flaws?
Just trying to get my bearings here.
So, this is how we hit the core of the issue. I actually agree with what you said... those "experts" really are nothing more than that.
I mean, the whole point of an interaction is that there have to be at least two sides involved.
So, what then? Should we just demote everyone who fails to meet those basic standards?
steeleagle13 said:Fine, then let's just get ourselves MASTER MIRKO🙏😂🤣🤣
Joe Smith... as long as his name starts with "Jo"🤣😍
Peter Phillips32 said:And look, if you’re actually sitting there hunting for answers, don't go making life harder on yourself than it needs to be by overthinking every little thing.
Quincy:| So, I’ve been sitting here chewing on this one for a minute, just staring at the wall and wondering if all these "wise men" out there are actually doing anything useful, or if they're just playing some high-level intellectual game meant only for people who have nothing better to do than contemplate the void. Like, is wisdom some exclusive club where you need a VIP pass and a PhD just to get through the door, or is it supposed to actually mean something to the guy working a nine-to-five in Chicago or someone just trying to make sense of their messy life? Because honestly, if this deep, transcendental stuff doesn't help the average person navigate the absolute chaos of everyday existence, then what’s even the point of it all? It feels kind of elitist, right? Like, why bother peeling back the layers of the universe if that knowledge doesn't help you deal with a bad day or a broken heart or just the general absurdity of being alive? I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking it—I tend to do that too much—but it feels like true wisdom should be practical, something you can actually use when life starts hitting you hard, not just some abstract concept reserved for people sitting on mountaintops somewhere. |
Look, those kinds of deep quotes? They’re really just tailored for people who are desperate for some kind of direction. You've got that crowd that doesn't quite grasp what's being said, so they sit there acting all impressed, calling it "profound" or whatever. But then you have the people who actually get it—the ones who actually live by it—and to them, it isn't some grand revelation or life-changing epiphany. It’s just... reality. It’s just how things work. It's basically just common sense, plain and simple.
Quincy: Let me clear things up: I’ve got this habit, you know, where I’ll be sitting around reading these deep, "profound" quotes—the kind people love to post on LinkedIn to look smart—and I can't help but notice how incredibly convoluted they are. It’s like some people go out of their way to wrap a simple thought in ten layers of linguistic bubble wrap just to make themselves feel superior, and honestly, half the time, most folks can't even wrap their heads around what's being said because it's just needlessly dense. |
Like enky says: they're just simple.
Look, I’m just gonna be real with you here—your whole vibe, the way you're processing this and actually accepting who you are and what's going down right now? It’s just not cutting it. You aren't even close to the level of maturity or awareness needed to handle a task like this.
Quincy: Alright, here we go: I mean, can you even call someone a sage if they’re out here trying to play professor to some random guy on the street? It feels kind of fake, right? Like, if you actually possess that deep, heavy level of insight, why would you feel the need to go shoving it in a regular person's face just to prove a point? To me, true wisdom is more about staying low-key and letting things unfold naturally rather than performing for an audience that didn't even ask for a lecture. If you have to flaunt it to be recognized, maybe you aren't as enlightened as you think you are. It just seems like a massive ego trip, honestly. |
I honestly don't think a wise man ever actually sets out to be "wise," you know? It’s not like they wake up and decide to go collect some profound insights from the universe. I feel like a truly wise person just chooses to be a friend to people instead. That’s the whole thing. And if that's the case, then my goal—if I can even call it that without sounding way too full of myself—is just to be there for folks and help them out however I see fit, in whatever way I think makes the most sense at the time.
And honestly, you could also argue that if someone is sitting there struggling to actually grasp the "wisdom" being handed to them, they’ve basically already dropped the ball on their end of the deal—because, let's be real, the whole point was to actually digest it, own it, and then put it to work in the real world.
That’s what happens when I actually try to be a master of my own vocabulary. 😁
Quincy:
| Their statements are only useful for those who actually need them. People who don't grasp the concept think they're profound. But for those of us who actually get it and live by it? It’s just common sense. It's everyday reality. |
Now that’s a solid, interesting take.
Like enky said:they’re simple.
Your understanding—and frankly, your ability to accept who you are and the mess you're in—is nowhere near where it needs to be for this task.
Maybe they seem straightforward enough to us, but there are always people who just don't get it. What is actually wrong with them?
Quincy:
I don't think a wise man chooses to be wise. He just chooses to be a friend to people. That’s it. As such, I want to help them however I can, and in whatever way I believe is best. And honestly? You could argue that if someone fails to grasp the "wisdom" being shared, the fault lies squarely with the messenger. They didn't do their job. If you aren't making yourself understood—if you aren't actually helping people process, accept, and then apply what you're saying—then you’ve failed. Simple as that. |
Maybe he didn't even care about the problem in the first place. Or, if you ask me, some of these self-proclaimed geniuses just aren't wise enough to actually share their "wisdom" with anyone else.
I turned the blade against myself
I wanted to drive it straight through my heart
But his hand stopped me
The silence in his voice was suffocating
That look of pure contempt from him tore me apart
God, I hated him. I truly hated him
For not letting me slip away into heaven
For offering zero comfort when he pulled me back
For scolding me so bluntly, so transparently
For stripping away the courage to try again
I hated him just as much as I hated the life I didn't end
But most of all, I hated him for leaving
He vanished just as quickly as he appeared
Gone in an instant—if you can even call it an instant
I’ve spent my whole life looking back
Searching for him in my friends
In those who tried to comfort me
Those who offered a kind hand
But I never found him
He was one of a kind
Just a fleeting moment of consciousness
He wrenched that knife from my grip
And handed me the joy of living
A single flash of awareness
Deep within my life
This Song is about that split second where we wake up and realize we have to find our own strength within ourselves.
A true friend isn't just someone who feeds your ego or makes you feel good.
A real friend is the one you'll laugh with forever, but also the one who calls you out when it matters most—even if you end up hating them for it for the rest of your life.
jademarlin26 said:Tell him to get lost. [Excuse my French for relaying a Promethean message to Zeus using today's vernacular.]
😁
then God wouldn't be in paradise🤣 or nirvana😂
placidharbor7 said:Seriously though, from what possible standpoint could anything in all nine realms be considered "wrong"?
There aren't even nine universes to begin with—there isn't a single shred of truth in one, let alone all nine.