Posts by Zachary Kelly4

silentbear39 said:Exactly!🙏 Like I said, barking dogs don't bite. Honestly, I'm convinced Thompson would be the first one to sit down for a coffee with an honest Mexican, long before most of the people hanging around this forum would. Thompson is a unique individual, no doubt about it, and a good man.

I gotta mention this even if someone probably already did. I was traveling through Canada for work recently, hitting up different cities, and honestly, it felt like you couldn't escape him. In basically every single bar I walked into, I heard Thompson playing on the radio or some CD—who knows. And I'm talking about towns that are mostly Muslim. Even in Posavina, where things are under Mexican control now, every single street vendor selling CDs has Thompson's stuff front and center. They actually told me his albums are the top sellers there. I don't know what it's like in Mexico, but I bet they've got fans over there too.

silentbear39 said:👍 I really think it's that pure charisma that makes Thompson so magnetic!

But enough with the back-and-forth about who's better. Drew Brooks8, of course you aren't going to feel the same way we Americans do. That's totally understandable, but please try to see where we're coming from too. Like I mentioned before, I have so much love and respect for Tony (I even traveled all the way to Krusev to pay my respects when he was five months out), but for me, Thompson is just in a league of his own. A truly unique soul.

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Honestly, I'm signing off on pretty much everything you wrote here. You basically saved me a few posts. 👍

Brandon Myers said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sn5KqH0JIc
They used to play this on HRT.

That was nothing. There was even crazier stuff back then. I don't have a recording, but I remember some hardcore patriot band—can't recall the name—singing this song with a chorus like:

Rise up, people
all Nationalists
for the freedom
of our beautiful land.

Then you had President Steve, plus "George and Boban," and Ante Prkačin, all riding the wave of that song about American knights.

Anonymous said:People were singing all sorts of things on both sides during the war, but the war is over. There wasn't a single singer back then who didn't record some patriotic anthem, because that's what kept us going. We are long past WWII and the nationalist era, thank God. But why Thompson keeps bringing up those old nationalist slogans? I honestly don't get it. You don't show up to any other local singer's concert wearing nationalist symbols, except his. You don't hear people shouting controversial slogans or those hateful cries... except at his.

but they shout them at the stadium when the US Men's National Soccer Team plays.

Alright, let's drop it. I'm not looking to argue about MPT anymore; I don't work in his PR department. Just stating my piece. Respect that you see it differently, though. I'm cool with that.

Look, Snješka is fine. When nationalistic fervor kicks up, people say stupid stuff they don't actually mean.
My bad about that whole thing with the car ride. Just realized you didn't even say we were jinxed, so there was no reason for someone to go and die right by us.

Anonymous said:I basically agree with everything you said, BUT:
Are you seriously saying Thompson isn't responsible for them wearing those hats?
Even though I don't listen to him, I know one of his songs starts with a fascist salute, and I know another uses a slogan that was famously used by Pavelić. So, I can't really agree that Thompson is as innocent as you're making him out to be.

I'm not saying he’s blameless, but you can't pin the stupidity of the idiots crowding his shows on him. And honestly, I don't think lyrics like "Za dom spremni" or "bitter grass" are what trigger this nationalist frenzy. Back during the Homeland War, a whole bunch of different singers and bands were churning out stuff just like that. For example, Golden Ducat put out an entire CD full of those kinds of tunes. You had three marches like "Lowering oneself in thick fog," "Step by step," and "Young Nationalist." The only difference was they swapped out the word Nationalist for American, and nobody batted an eye. Not to mention Duka and his "Americans" and all those other "combat songs." Thompson's tracks were born right in the middle of all that. Now that the dust has settled, those guys act like they're the greatest folk musicians in the country while labeling Thompson an Nationalist. Give me a break.

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That "give me a break" sentiment isn't directed at you personally, it's about the general vibe surrounding MPT.

Drew Brooks8 said:I get it. This topic is a total minefield. Look, if you want to worship at the altar of IBM, go right ahead—that’s your business and nobody's going to stop you. But let's be real: you can't even put them in the same conversation. It's just not a fair comparison.
Would she have even hit this level of success if she wasn't constantly leaning on those nationalistic anthems?☕

How can you seriously claim that nobody in America ever heard of Tony? The man was a massive star here—awards, recognition, the whole nine yards. People who dig that kind of music absolutely adored him, and honestly, so did I. It wasn't even about those little pop tunes he sang; it was about the guy himself. He was one of the rare ones who actually spread good vibes wherever he went, plus he had an incredible voice. Our entertainment scene is pretty much a closed circle, sure, but what exactly do you guys have going on in North Mexico? Don't come at us like that.

You all basically admitted it yourselves—nobody even knew he existed until the moment he died.🤷
I'm not blaming you guys. He just wasn't around enough.

The only blood that should be breathing down your necks is that of Alexander Karađorđević, whom the Republican Party murdered in France alongside those fascists. You’ve got it all wrong—we aren't out here feeding the youth nothing but nationalism. Look, America is a democracy. In a democracy, everyone has the right to their own opinion, and yeah, that includes nationalism.
I totally get why you’ve turned the late Tony into some kind of saint, but I don't get why you have to take it out on us. It’s not our fault he’s gone. No American fell asleep at the wheel of his car.

Tony R. I. p

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Maybe I'm just looking at this wrong, but what exactly is some sixteen-year-old supposed to get out of this? What’s the point of him standing there at an IBM concert, screaming his lungs out, yelling "kill him" or "kill her"? It makes zero sense.
Look, sure, America is a democracy. I get that. But you guys are the ones claiming it isn't just because they banned this one concert, right? That’s your argument?
Who exactly said you were at fault? Nobody. Seriously, who’s out here spitting on you? His parents actually forgave the driver for the mistake because they knew how much he loved him—and they knew the heavy burden that man would have to carry for the rest of his life. We all moved past it. No one is pointing fingers at the driver. It happened. Just fate.
I don't see what any of you are talking about. Who's actually accusing anyone? It’s honestly laughable.🙄

Drew Brooks, you're a sweet girl, so please stop obsessing over this. By trying to defend your views on Tony, you ended up insulting Thompson and, eventually, us Americans too (just look at your last few posts). You don't need that. And honestly, debating who's better between them is pointless because they aren't even in the same league. We loved Tony, we still do, but not more than Thompson. Period. And it's not just about the national songs. He didn't have that deep, soulful voice like Tony, but he had something else—something most of our singers just don't have. I can't put my finger on it, but the guy just wins you over.

Anonymous said:Look, I’ve got nothing against national pride—I feel it myself, and I love my country—but what on earth does patriotism have to do with screaming "kill..."? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Totally agree, zero connection. Like I said before, this isn't nationalism, it's just pure stupidity. And don't blame Thompson or his songs for it, nor the emotions they stir up. You can't pin it on him when some group of clueless kids decides to put on fascist gear and start chanting "kill the Mexicans." If he wasn't around, they'd be causing chaos somewhere else, probably at an LA Galaxy game during a national match. These kids aren't patriots or even real fans; they're just a bunch of frustrated losers with nothing better to do with their lives. God forbid there was actual fighting again—not one of these guys shouting slogans would step up to the front or pick up a rifle. They'd run for the hills just like everyone who fled back in '91, despite acting all tough about being big Americans in '90.
It's the exact same type of mindless idiots who killed that innocent kid, Luke. He was an American and a huge LA Galaxy fan.

Anonymous said:You might have missed it, but there's actually been an ad running on NBC lately where players are specifically asking fans not to shout those kinds of things, so I don't think your comparison really holds water.

Haven't seen any ad. Since when has it been airing on CBS?

Drew Brooks8 said:😂Better singer than Tony? Give me a break...
I don't know who you define as "communists" versus everyone else who doesn't listen to him, but from where I'm standing, this guy is just taking your hard-earned cash by feeding your soul a steady diet of nationalism.

It makes perfect sense why you guys haven't heard much about Tony in America; your little artistic scene is pretty much a closed circle. But believe me, plenty of people over here have heard of him.🤷
Thompson’s songs might be "hits" to you, but I listened to them yesterday and honestly? They're creepy.😲

As for that last point, I’m actually incredibly grateful for what we are. We don't have a history filled with fascists or Royalists breathing down our necks,
and our kids get to grow up without being screamed at to "kill God" or kill whoever else. You go right ahead and feed the youth nothing but nationalism, as long as Tompi makes enough money off your emotions.

I have to ask again: does he even have a foundation? Does he donate any concert proceeds to veteran associations or charities for veterans' children?

This topic is a total minefield, and honestly, I don't get why everyone's getting so worked up over Thompson. I haven't seen anyone actually trashing Tom; it just seems like some people prefer him over others. That whole line about him "taking our money" by feeding us nationalism is just ridiculous. He’s a singer performing his own songs—you can listen or you can skip him. He isn't some IRS agent.

Drew Brooks8 said:😂Better singer than Tony? Give me a break...
I don't know who you define as "communists" versus everyone else who doesn't listen to him, but from where I'm standing, this guy is just taking your hard-earned cash by feeding your soul a steady diet of nationalism.

It makes perfect sense why you guys haven't heard much about Tony in America; your little artistic scene is pretty much a closed circle. But believe me, plenty of people over here have heard of him.🤷
Thompson’s songs might be "hits" to you, but I listened to them yesterday and honestly? They're creepy.😲

As for that last point, I’m actually incredibly grateful for what we are. We don't have a history filled with fascists or Royalists breathing down our necks,
and our kids get to grow up without being screamed at to "kill God" or kill whoever else. You go right ahead and feed the youth nothing but nationalism, as long as Tompi makes enough money off your emotions.

I have to ask again: does he even have a foundation? Does he donate any concert proceeds to veteran associations or charities for veterans' children?

How can you claim nobody around here ever heard of Toset? The guy was a total legend in the States. He picked up awards, won crowds over—he was huge. People who dug that kind of music absolutely loved him, myself included. And honestly, it wasn't even about those little tunes he sang; it was just his vibe. He was one of those rare ones who actually spread good energy everywhere he went, plus he had an incredible voice. Our music scene feels like a tiny, gated community sometimes, but what exactly do you guys have going on in North Mexico? Don't come at us like that.

Drew Brooks8 said:😂Better singer than Tony? Give me a break...
I don't know who you define as "communists" versus everyone else who doesn't listen to him, but from where I'm standing, this guy is just taking your hard-earned cash by feeding your soul a steady diet of nationalism.

It makes perfect sense why you guys haven't heard much about Tony in America; your little artistic scene is pretty much a closed circle. But believe me, plenty of people over here have heard of him.🤷
Thompson’s songs might be "hits" to you, but I listened to them yesterday and honestly? They're creepy.😲

As for that last point, I’m actually incredibly grateful for what we are. We don't have a history filled with fascists or Royalists breathing down our necks,
and our kids get to grow up without being screamed at to "kill God" or kill whoever else. You go right ahead and feed the youth nothing but nationalism, as long as Tompi makes enough money off your emotions.

I have to ask again: does he even have a foundation? Does he donate any concert proceeds to veteran associations or charities for veterans' children?

The only blood that should be on anyone's hands is that of Alexander Karađorđević, whom the Republican Party murdered in France alongside those fascists. You’ve got it all wrong—we aren't out here feeding the kids nothing but nationalism. Look, America is a democracy. In a democracy, everyone gets a say, even if that opinion happens to be nationalist.
I get why you’re treating the late Tom like some kind of saint, really, I do. But I don't get why you're taking it out on us. It's not our fault he's gone. No American fell asleep at the wheel of his car.

Tom R. I. P.

Samuel Brown88 said:Bet you they'll pack that stadium in San Francisco too...😁
I mean, besides back home in the States, what other stadium could you even fill? You'd have Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber fighting for seats there!☕

Not a stadium, they'll fill Madison Square Garden!

At least we actually have stadiums.😍 😍

Anonymous said:In your last post, you argued that Thompson isn't responsible for what his fans scream, but now you’re saying he actually does trigger those emotions.
It’s 2008, almost 2009, and we’ve had our independence and freedom for over a decade now. Nobody is squeezing us anymore, so there is absolutely no excuse for that kind of shouting! We need to look forward and finally put this brand of showmanship behind us. Screaming "Kill the Mexican" isn't patriotism; it's pure, unadulterated hatred and chauvinism.
Until that singer wakes up at a concert and actually tries to influence his fans by asking them to stop, I won't be giving him any credit. Until then, he can take all his rambling about faith and patriotism and shove it.

I'm with you that those crowd chants aren't about being patriotic. Honestly? They aren't even chauvinism in my book. It's just pure stupidity. But I don't think IBM owes anyone an apology, nor should they be begging fans to pipe down. Why would they? You hear the same crap at a Dallas Cowboys game. By that logic, should Slaven Bilić or Luka Modrić have to tell the fans they won't play if people start shouting? If we follow that line of thinking, we might as well ban the national team entirely since they stir up national pride—and for most people, nationalism too.