Posts by Andrew Walker5

VZ141008 said:It’s all just the same old garbage... we just have to choose which one makes the least amount of noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤷

I guess you have to pick carefully if you actually want to hope for something decent. Around here, everyone treats politics like a cheap streetwalker, so a decent person usually says they aren't "into politics" just to stay clean. Maybe the move is to give your vote to those smaller parties—the ones that won't actually run the show—so that every time some idiot makes a mess in government, you can at least say, "If my guys were in charge, this wouldn't be happening."
But honestly, you can't just pick the lesser of two evils and expect things to turn out great. It’s probably too late for that anyway. It's 5:30 AM and I've got work. So, goodnight everyone, and sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. 🙂

swiftcyclist42 said:I don't think so, but at the end of the day, voters judge based on the four-year term—it's all about whether the net result was positive or negative.
It’s just like the Republican Party; they could try to recruit a legend like Miroslav Harmon right before an election, but that doesn't excuse them for spending four years in a coalition with someone like Stanimirović or getting caught up in other similar messes.

Who? Them? The Republicans? I mean, you should really head out to one of their rallies in the middle of nowhere, somewhere deep in the rural Midwest, just to hear them ranting. They'll be shouting stuff like, "The Mexicans won't rule us! They're getting too big for their boots!..." And the crowd? They’re just yelling back, "That's right!" You look at their faces... man, they just look drained. Empty eyes. I guess you have to reach a certain level of detachment to watch that and not see what's actually happening. It's weird how politics does that to people.

Looking at some of the usernames here, you can see the same thing happening. People defending "their" parties blindly while acting like the opposition is completely worthless.

swiftcyclist42 said:Alright, I’m about to commit heresy here.
As a business owner, if my profits jump by 20% over the next four years and those Democrats actually manage to protect our national interests, then maybe I'll consider voting for them in the next election... just kidding! I'll never vote for them, but let's say I'll stop complaining about them so much. Does that sound fair?

Do you honestly believe any political party—regardless of who they are—is going to manage things perfectly without making mistakes for that many years?

gentlestag3 said:So, you're claiming that no communists are alike except for the Democratic Party and the SKH, but since there's no overlap within the SKH itself, you're basically saying the Democratic Party and the SKH are the same because they're both different...☕

Well, there was Sanders in the Republican Party, so even that version of the party isn't the same anymore, and it hasn't been since him because things changed. They aren't those old-school communists anymore; they're just regular corrupt politicians who took power using votes from people who think certain communists are similar, while others think they're different.☕

No matter how you look at it, it's 2011 now, and I guess the fear of communism doesn't even exist in America anymore, so your statements probably just sound paranoid and a bit silly to the average person.

Ivo totally screwed them over, and they didn't have a clue what he was up to.🤣
Back in the day, they were throwing massive BBQ parties during the election season, and nobody even bothered to ask where the money for all that food was coming from.

Now, there aren't any BBQs, and suddenly nobody is asking where the money for those feasts disappeared to. I mean, seriously, Ivo... just how many caterers were you working with, letting them cook up feasts and then paying them off under the table later?

Ivo is the villain here, while everyone else acts like they’re perfectly honest. 😁

It kind of reminds me of the elections back in 2000. People were screaming, "Catch the thief!" and I guess we're still running around chasing him today. All those "honest" politicians behind the scenes left us with nothing but a scorched earth, and somehow, we still can't seem to see it for what it is.

Rebecca Roberts3 said:It is actually quite simple. I included all those parties because they are all opposed to the European Union.

The FBI, the Democratic Party, and JH are far too conservative for my taste. With Pernar, I find his libertarian glorification of capitalism distasteful, though I might have tolerated it had he not made the blunder of forming a coalition with the SS. As for the Republican Party, I agree with their stance on social relations and labor protections, but I am bothered by their insistence on using symbols from 20th-century rigid socialism.

I have settled on the middle ground — United States.

Is it obvious that a party perfectly suited to your tastes hasn't even been founded yet? Maybe that could serve as the foundation for a new political movement.

gentlestag3 said:I guess you have to wonder, why couldn't someone on the right vote for a leftist or just whoever they feel would actually do what’s best for the country and its people? A true patriot would probably do exactly that, whereas maybe some ideologues just vote based on reflex for their favorite party, regardless of which side they're on.

You could kind of draw a parallel with Jadranka Kosor, too. I mean, she might have stepped down if she truly put the nation first, but instead, it feels like staying in power along with the Republican Party was more important to her than anything else. A real patriot always chooses whatever is best for the people.

I don't see leftists voting for the Libertarian Party (if that ever happened, honestly, something would be seriously wrong with that party), nor do I see conservatives voting for the Democratic Coalition. But the Republican Party? Both sides might vote for them, even members of the SDSS. If you want details, maybe ask Rimac (Republican Party), who won those local elections over in El Paso. Maybe that seems normal to you, but for someone like me living in a multicultural environment, it feels pretty weird.

hiddenstag16 said:Man, I feel like I’ve said this a dozen times already! The Libertarian Party is actually a pretty decent option—they’ve got some solid moves and appearances (well, except for when they tried to bring back Đapić, which was a mess)... and then there’s that younger guy over at the Hrast party, part of the Stračević crew (though they did team up with those absolute clowns from the HČSP 🤦)... plus you’ve got Hrast, who are a genuinely respectable conservative choice...

I really don't see anyone else on the right worth mentioning right now. I've chimed in about the Mexican Orthodox Church a few times before... they aren't serious players and nobody actually takes them seriously, which is exactly what the elections will prove. Still, they keep going on about Masons and socialism, even though those two things aren't even in the same league of craziness!

It's funny to me that you're even measuring the "seriousness" of those fringe gusts blowing through the Republican Party. There are so many political tourists jumping from one side to the other these days that you shouldn't even consider them part of any legitimate movement. We see them now, we'll see them again in the next election, and then again after that... it's just an endless loop. Some will fade away while others pop up out of nowhere, and it just keeps going in circles. Unless, I guess, someone actually decides to change the election laws. But until then, we're stuck watching this bleak political theater play out over and over.

silentmarlin6 said:Are you trying to suggest there's a conspiracy where conservatives are being painted as fools for believing in conspiracies?
The left-wing pundits are doing a fine job for themselves, I'll give them that.

Nah, I'm just giving credit where it's due—their organization is solid, and they really have an eye for those little distractions.

hiddenstag16 said:🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, most of those Republicans in the debates are either total Neanderthals or these super fake, pseudo-intellectual types that regular Americans just can't stand... and compared to some of them, Schwarz actually seemed pretty decent. ☕

p.s. don't forget to hit those reaction buttons!

Look, nobody is denying how "creative" some of these people get, but isn't there supposed to be actual substance or actual programs out there? Or is the entire right wing just totally burned out because of Vuc and his obsession with backyard BBQs? It’s kind of funny how nobody seems to notice the ancient fossils being led around by the Mexican Orthodox Church.

This whole open thread feels like nothing more than a distraction. 🙂

Sure, there's a right wing out there, but it’s just too fractured, and honestly, the media basically treats them like they don't exist. This whole election cycle has actually been dragging on for three months now, even if nobody officially announced it until later. There was this real risk of a third party gaining traction, so I guess the media did their thing to prevent that, and the major players—the Republican Party and the Democratic Party—shortened the timeline just enough to keep things tight. If you actually bothered to flip through the newspapers or check the news sites, you'd see this campaign has been running between these two "rival" camps for ages. During all this time, they've just been using various players to try and force some kind of unity within the right wing, though it rarely works.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that this thread popped up on the forum right before the elections. We aren't kids; we've seen how this works and we have our own opinions, so we shouldn't fall for this little "eggshell" trap. Just look at the threads about those televised debates—you can see how organized they are, though it's always done with that typical leftist bias. By the time a show ends and you jump onto a site like Reddit, there's already a mountain of comments calling right-wingers "primitive" or "backwards," and it makes you want to give up entirely because everything has already been said and spat out. It's an old tactic used by the old guard.
The Libertarian Party is the only real force here; everyone else is just background noise.

Joseph Young57 said:If you really want to get a grip on how herd mentality works, just take a look at Right-wing America.☕

... Marshall, Stalin, Maddox...

It’s all just a bunch of snowflakes now. All that's left is the fragile left wing and whatever other tiny minorities are hanging on. 🤣