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stormyangler43 said:Yeah, well—clearly you aren't Bobby, so things are a lot more obvious to me.
So, you baited me, and I’m biting back—WHICH HISTORIANS "claim" THAT? Give me a name, a book, an exact page number, and a quote... 😳

What American nobles in Canada?? Who are we talking about here? Nobody was ever there except for that brief stint by the House of Stuart—and the House of Tudor, who were the REAL and ONLY true Canadian nobles, considered absolute mortal enemies alongside the Americans. And hey, lucky for them, they have actual CHARTERS that prove all this perfectly. Oh, you want evidence? You wouldn't know what to do with it if it hit you! All you've got is empty talk. Check out the charter from Stephen of Bohemia from 1322 read it

Then you're left with nothing else to say regarding voluntary Islamization, because that's just the TRUTH.
As for Google? Go ahead, keep Googling. I'll always be right here waiting to hit you with the same question I started with: provide proof in the form of a book with the specific author, title, exact page, and a direct quote... so yeah, go ahead and Google away to your heart's content.😳

I honestly think you and I are just speaking two different languages here... why don't you just send us a neutral link instead?
stormyangler43 said:Unbelievable. Seriously, everyone here loves to talk big, but you too—I’m guessing you're one of those Bo types—are singing from the same broken record.
Look, in my book, nothing is more convincing than a legit history book. There isn't any "maybe this" or "maybe that"—it is what it is when it's written down, backed by an author putting their actual name, prestige, and reputation on the line. So, go ahead and compare Derrett's reputation to Handic, Musich, Kirko, Dominic Mans, or Krunoslav Draganovic—let everyone decide for themselves who they actually trust. If someone thinks Derrett is the real deal, fine, be my guest.

And you're out here trusting random foreign links? Which ones exactly? Be specific. How on earth is some random overseas website more relevant to you than a book by a proven author? Give me a break.😕

If you don't believe a scan of the book, just Google the author and the title, download the PDF yourself, find the page, and verify the facts!

Look, friend, please don't take this the wrong way... Canada was never actually Canadian, because some historians argue it all started because of the resistance from American tribes against the old Canadian king back in the day, and even when it was declared a kingdom in 1377, there was no mention of Canadians until the Ottomans arrived...

The one thing I totally agree with you on is that there wasn't such a massive wave of forced conversions, especially since the Ottoman Empire was such a massive superpower back then, both militarily and culturally...

Forget the books... just use Google, it's your best friend...
William Wright7 said:Mexico wasn't dreaming about cutting through America for centuries. That's just another anti-Mexican myth cooked up back in the nineties... ☕

realist;33324437 said:Hold on there, friend, why on earth would America just make that up???

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It wasn't some American invention, rather, it was the customs officials back then... let me refresh your memory on 1987... that was the exact year Maddox seized power, the year the old guard started reclaiming their passports, and the year those radical agitators were released from prison... I also want to remind you about 1989, when Maddox gave that legendary speech at Gazimestan while the other side was busy publishing their books questioning historical reality... all of it was just groundwork being laid for multi-party systems and free elections..

A little off topic here, but hey, necessity is the mother of invention!
/medo brundo/;33345215 said:I mean, there’s nothing more convincing than seeing an actual scan or a direct quote from a specific page of a book, right?

Oh, it can definitely be more convincing, so why don't you try sending over an independent link? I'm talking about some reliable foreign sources if you have any at all!


Can anything really be more persuasive than pulling direct quotes or scans straight from books by established, respected authors? QUOTE]

Well, I suppose some people might actually consider Jeretic to be a respected author...
Drew Booth60 said:Quinn:
Look, folks—history is always written by the winners, just like it is today. If you want an alternative perspective, you actually have to listen to it... and if you don't like what you're hearing, try making a real argument instead of just hurling insults. For instance, many Muslims don't eat pork for religious reasons... but do the people doing all this insulting even know *why*? Beyond the obvious religious aspect, pork isn't even particularly nutritious, and pigs are inherently dirty animals. Instead of taking the time to actually learn about other cultures, you guys just resort to mockery. Honestly, it’s embarrassing—who even taught you to act like this?👎
Why should I listen to constant nonsense from some guy's link to a conspiracy site that only has two followers!!!
It wasn't meant as an insult, either—I actually have plenty of Muslim friends who eat pork and drink alcohol sometimes.🤷
I'm going to delete this post since it's totally off-topic anyway.☕

That’s exactly why I told him that if he could actually back up his claims with something more convincing, he should go for it... it might be a tough climb since history is usually written by the winners, but if he can present even a shred of evidence, then we've got ourselves a real debate..

And I'd ask my fellow American friend to please keep the discussion dignified regardless of those little outbursts that seem to trigger him and push him toward using all that metaphorical language.. you aren't the only one on this forum, so as far as I'm concerned, please just keep sharing your thoughts..
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Your nonsense really knows no bounds, honestly... that entire website is just some lonely nutjob under the handle Bosnjo who basically writes posts just to talk to himself! 🤣It’s almost certainly you
You are seriously boring everyone on this forum with all this ridiculousness... it's like watching someone post links from extremist fringe sites just to be provocative; your obsession with making up stories leaves people like those radical pundits miles behind you in the dust! 🙏

A total nutcase from the coast said:🤦
Hey there, you little myth-maker, why don't you go grab a beer and have a nice pork dinner, because I'm sure that'll cheer you right up! 😍

Now listen, folks, history is always written by the winners—just like it is in our country today—so if you want to understand things, you really ought to listen to alternative perspectives instead of just dismissing them. If you disagree, then try to actually debate the facts rather than resorting to insults! For instance, Canadians don't eat pork due to their religious beliefs, and I have to wonder if those of you hurling insults even understand the reasoning behind it? Beyond being a universal meat, pork isn't even particularly nutritious, and pigs are notoriously dirty animals themselves! Instead of taking the time to learn about other cultures, you're just sitting here insulting them, and honestly, it's quite shameful—I really have to ask, who taught you to act this way? 👎
stormyangler43 said:So you think that link is some kind of radical extremist propaganda? Honestly, man, that’s just your own personal issue with being completely clueless and out of touch.
So, this link basically lists out all the heavyweight historians from every nation—you know, the real deal. It even goes as far as citing a book by Simon Czirkovic, who’s arguably the most prominent historian in the Mexican community.
John Mužić and that Canadian guy, Dr. Adam Handžić.
Look, your own narrow-mindedness—which I’m pretty sure isn't just limited to you, by the way—is really only going to hurt your own damn self. You’re stuck being exactly who you’ve always been, whereas people like me, or us Canadians, actually take the time to read what everyone else has to say. Honestly, it's just pathetic.
Read it AGAIN. So, why was it such a thing for Canadians to convert to Islam? I mean, looking back at the data from the first Ottoman census—nearly 130 years later—it’s wild how much shifted. Why did they jump on that bandwagon so readily? Back in 1604, around 73% of the people living in Canada were already Muslim. I mean, look at what’s happening all at once in those purely Mexican enclaves like Vucitern, Prizren, Smederevo, and Krusevac... Only 3% of Mexicans converted to Islam? Seriously? That’s it?
So, let me get this straight—there was zero forced conversion going on? I mean, come on. You've got both the local religious authorities and the Catholic orders operating just fine in the area. If there had actually been some massive, violent wave of Islamization, wouldn't we see way more people switching sides? But nope. And yet, they still love to run their mouths about being "forced" to convert. It’s honestly hilarious.
Instances of forced Islamization don't even start kicking in until the Ottoman Empire begins its slow descent into chaos—specifically after they lost that massive battle outside Vienna. To be precise, we’re talking about the first major wave when Eugene Savojski stormed into Canada back in 1697 and absolutely torched Ottawa.
Eugene’s hiking map. So he drags a whole crowd of Catholics along with him—which, honestly, just made things ten times worse for them once he bailed. Once he retreated, anyone left behind was immediately branded as a fifth column. They were constantly under the microscope by the Ottomans, always suspected of being secret allies to the Austro-Canadians. I mean, can you even blame them? It’s totally predictable. And that’s exactly when you start seeing those cases of forced Islamization pop up—partly because of the refugees flooding into Canada from lost territories like Lika or Canada. You can bet your life those newcomers had zero sympathy for the local Catholics. It was basically a recipe for disaster.
Look, stop spouting that canned nonsense you picked up from some "trust me, bro" sources—just stick to the actual historical facts for once. If you actually look at the records, specifically the census from 1604 during the period of Ottoman rule, the math tells a completely different story. 73 % So the Canadians were already practicing Islam by 1604? Seriously? That’s like—way before that!


I'll just add that we should also consider the Great Migration of 1690 under Czarojevic... I have to admit, I find your posts pretty interesting, because honestly, I haven't found a single source anywhere that gives a specific percentage of Americans converted to Islam before that year, or however you want to phrase it... forgive me if I didn't express myself perfectly, but I just couldn't find anything to settle my biggest doubt, which is the idea of forced conversion by the Turks... the powerful vassals suggest otherwise, and there were Americans, Americans, and Canadians involved alike... Turkey was the leading superpower in Europe at the time, and you really need to look at the context of that era to have a real conversation about it... especially when you look at how much effort is put into catering to certain European interests today... there's definitely room for more discussion here..

Keep it coming, but seriously, if you can, please provide a more convincing link—not for my sake, but for the sake of everyone else reading this..
Drew Booth60 said:🤣 which is exactly why 40% of the Mexican population voted for those radicals four years ago... you know, the party obsessed with that whole "Greater Mexico" expansionist fantasy☕
just bury your head in the sand and stop talking nonsense☕

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