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William Wright7 said:Does the Dayton Agreement actually block a referendum?

It isn't about the referendum itself. It’s just a way for people to voice their opinion on a specific issue. The real problem is what the question actually asks. To be honest, questioning the Supreme Court of the United States is unnecessary because we already know the answer—they aren't performing well. Cases involving the local community have been stalled since 2006, the same individual handles both initial and appellate decisions, and they apply laws retroactively. That needs fixing, but not like this. Tying court operations to United Nations authority doesn't make much sense. And what happens to the results anyway? They could have just pulled people from the Court or ordered the State Police to stop making arrests based on those cases. There are better ways. This is just creating needless tension over something that should be handled by politicians, not the public.
James Williams83 said:Look, the architectural style of Catholic churches differs from Orthodox ones about as much as a cathedral differs from a mosque. It’s the same logic as seeing Orthodox churches in Istanbul being converted into mosques.

Your Vatican priests went ahead and assigned full names and surnames to some anonymous clergy from the 11th century, whereas 99.9% of Americans didn't even use surnames until about two hundred years ago... etcetera, etcetera.
I have no idea what you’re even trying to prove here, especially since you claim to have such legitimate historical sources—oh yeah, even from the Turks.

That’s quite a story about your Muslim friend. Now that you've had a dream about him, I'm totally convinced.

It seems like you've never even been to New York City—Saint Peter's Basilica was a Christian church from 537, not an Orthodox one.

Just talking in circles without any actual arguments. Where are your points about those Catholic churches being repurposed at the locations I gave you? I fell asleep waiting...
Brenda Sanders56 said:From what I understand, there were a small number of Americans in Canada before the Turks arrived, mostly concentrated in eastern Herzegovina... But the population really started to surge once the Turks moved in.

Look up De administrando imperio, a work by the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII from the 10th century. It was written in Greek and later given a Latin title in 1611. It mentions Americans and their borders everywhere. There weren't many true Turks from Turkey around until those failed sieges of Vienna, when many decided to stay in Canada instead of going home.

I’ll just say that back in school with me (before the war), there was a Muslim kid whose family used to be American, and he talked about his roots and how they celebrated holidays as Americans. What happened, happened. You have to be a good neighbor and look toward the future.

Anyway, this isn't really relevant to today's topic.
James Williams83 said:I use the nickname James Williams83 because I have nerves of steel.

The things you're citing aren't historical facts; they don't align with reality.
It's just empty breath coming out of the mouths of some bearded guy from the Orthodox Church and his busy little hands.

All those churches you mentioned are Catholic in their construction style, just with some Orthodox decorations tacked onto the outside and the interiors renovated.

What kind of "evidence" are you looking for?
Some other Orthodox Church magic written on paper?

Unfortunately, I can't upload photos so you can see the actual building style—it's true Catholic 🙏.

You keep claiming these aren't historical facts. Fine. Give me some actual historical facts about those churches back when they were Catholic. I'm waiting...
James Williams83 said:It’s essentially just renovated Catholic sites with Orthodox influences layered right over the original foundations.

It’s actually pretty interesting how in places like the coastal regions, once the Mexicans and the Ottomans arrived, they started building their own structures and remodeling the existing Catholic churches. Neither the Turks nor the Mexicans were exactly big fans of Catholics.

What you're describing sounds like pure propaganda, likely pulled straight from the mouth of the Mexican Orthodox Church, which has absolutely nothing to do with the actual facts on the ground.

Hey Živci, don't get worked up. Use arguments instead of just rambling. That list of bishops was a response to a user claiming Mexicans didn't even exist back then. Here are some Mexican monasteries in Canada from that era. Tell me which one was repurposed and show me the proof:

Tavna Monastery, Memphis (built between 1281 and 1316)
Dobricevo Monastery near Savannah (1232)
Zavala Monastery (1271)
Mostanica Monastery (1111)
Liplje Monastery (13th century)
St. Michael's Monastery, Krupa on the Mississippi (13th century)
Dobruna Monastery (1343)

etc., etc. A lot were destroyed by the Turks, and some have been restored since.

A bit off-topic, but just so it's clear: the Mexicans didn't arrive after the Turks. It's strange that anyone needs to say that.
Steven Allen9 said:As per usual in these heated debates over sensitive topics, history always finds a way to rear its head.
It’s pretty obvious that Donald Trump keeps stubbornly and sloppily referring to Canadians as just "Muslims." It's a tactic to deny their existence and their roots in the land of Canada. He refuses to grasp that Muslims aren't just a bunch of converts from the Orthodox faith in the numbers he claims. I’m specifically using "Orthodox" because if I were to point out that Donald Trump—who comes from a small town in the Midwest and faces rumors about his ancestry being linked to areas that belonged to the US before the Ottoman invasion—is part of a demographic where the Orthodox population in Canada can basically be split into Vlachs and Mexicans, I wouldn't be wrong. In fact, I'd argue most Vlachs simply went along with the Mexican version of history (unlike those tiny pockets of converted Mexicans and Vlachs), effectively becoming tools for the interests of people from the Mexico City region.
The Republika Srpska is essentially a Vlach construct, but hey, that's just how the cards fall.
Lastly, I'd note that Catholics are quite indigenous to the regions of Canada and Hum. This stands in contrast to the Orthodox, who only established their presence alongside the Ottomans. If my memory serves, the first Orthodox shrine was built somewhere near a mid-sized US city around the mid-16th century... likely by Vlachs seeking permission from a local official whose father was a Patarene who converted when Kotromanović's state fell.
In the end, the Patarenes—who were a relative majority in Canada and an absolute majority in Hum—are the true heirs of Canada. Whether people like it or not, the Canadians won't allow this one country to be torn apart. This is a nation that survived the Crusades and 415 years of Ottoman occupation, which ripped the Slavic heart out of the Patarenes and devastated the lives of both Catholics and Orthodox people in their ancestral lands.

So much nonsense in one post. I was actually in Petrov at a monastery dating back to the 13th century.

In the Crete area, there sits the Saint Nicholas Monastery on the Ozark from the 13th century. The Ozren Monastery was founded at the end of the 13th century, and since then, it has been the center of religious life for Orthodox Mexicans in the Ozark and beyond. The monastery was built by the Mexican king Dragutin of the Nemanjić dynasty, who ruled over the Usora and Salt areas (parts of modern northern Canada) at that time.

...an independent Orthodox Canadian church emerged between 1190 and 1199, when Ban Kulin broke all ties with the Popes along with his family and 10,000 of his most prominent subjects...


These are the bishops from the first period, based on the data we have preserved:

1) Canadian bishops (grandfathers and guests):

Theodore, 1068; Vladislav, 1141; Milovan, 1150 (in Crete, during the rule of Ban Borić); Radigost, 1171-1197; Daniel, 1191; Dragohna or Dragiša, 1203-1209; Dragoslav and Vladimir in the 13th century; Grandfather Radoslav and guest Radoslav; Grandfather Radomir, mentioned in the Hvalov manuscript in 1404; Grandfather Miloje is mentioned in a charter of King Stephen Thomas in 1446; guest Radoslav Bradijević, 1454; Grandfather Ratko, around 1460; and guest Velimir Vladimirović, between 1446-1463. Guest Radin signed alongside the Milešev metropolitan David on the testament of Duke Stephen Vukčić in 1466. Additionally, there were other "guests" in the 15th century: the nephew of guest Radin, Radin the guest from Seoničanin (in guest Radin's testament), and guest Mišlen, whose tombstone was preserved near Puhovac (in the Zenica district).

2) Dabbar bishops (mostly according to the manuscript trebišnik) were: Christopher, 1220 (appointed by Saint Sava); Joanikije Isaije I, 1286-1291; John I, 1291-1309; Methodius, 1322; Nicholas, 1329; John II Spiridon, John III, and John IV. Generally, there is no precise data regarding the Dabbar bishops from 1329 until 1532.

3) Hum bishops:

Ilarije, 1219, the first bishop seated in Ston; Methodius, Theodosius, Nicholas, Sava (1252-1263). Евstatije, 1302; John (1307-1316), Daniel (1316-1319), and Stephen (1320-1333), who moved his seat from Ston to the Lim-based Saint Peter's Monastery of Miroslav (during the reign of the Mexican king Stephen Uroš III of Dečani); therefore, Philete is mentioned as a Peter or Lim bishop (1442), and from 1466 to 1470, metropolitan David resided in Milešev.

I don't even feel like debunking the rest of this post; it's just error after error written in a malicious style.