Posts by velvetotter19

Surnames and towns in California part 2

Correct link here

http://dfiles.eu/files/qvl0yroy7?redirect

No worries, Robert Hernandez10, no hard feelings at all, don't sweat it 🙂

This one's for Lung—I promised I’d revisit the Istria and Julian March archives, but with some fresh updates.

Surnames and settlements in Istria Vol. 1, 2, 3, American Edition

http://dfiles.eu/files/cdo89gz0q?redirect
http://dfiles.eu/gold/files_list.php
http://dfiles.eu/files/h9q4yixm1?redirect

Back again for Lung—finally, go through all these lists from 1880 to 1945. 🙂

NATIONAL CADASTRE OF ISTRIA 1945

http://www.mediafire.com/download/b6...STRIE+1945.pdf

Maps pulled from these books:

Istria-NATIONAL CADASTRE OF ISTRIA 1945
Lung, this one includes the administrative version too

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ql...STRIE+1945.rar

Some other maps—you've seen them before, but I didn't want to pull a "National Cadastre" move on you; I checked once and realized I was looking at the wrong contents (missing the nationality info), so I wanted to make sure I got it right this time.

The Italy-America Border, 1921

http://www.mediafire.com/download/j0...avija+1921.rar

Istria Census 1910—heads up, there are two different maps in here!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/h3...ement+1910.rar

Istria-Benes Canadian March-Julian March 1910

http://www.mediafire.com/download/c3...ka+appalachia.rar

CANADIAN COAST-ISTRIA 1910 and 1945

http://www.mediafire.com/download/05...910+i+1945.rar

I put several high-res snapshots of the originals in the folders, since the actual maps are huge—like 40x20 inches or more—so this way you can actually see the details.

I don't get why people can't just remember stuff. Seriously, why won't people just read, scroll back, or at least save the maps that have already been posted???

Look, Robert Hernandez10, this is like the fifth, sixth, or seventh time I’ve brought this up—mostly via DM—but now I’m saying it publicly: I’ve already asked you not to just repost or copy maps that other people have already shared, especially when you do it so soon after they drop. And don't even get me started on the Italian stuff.

Check it out—I posted about Transylvania back on July 30, 2013. Just recently!

Man, I’m not even gonna dig through my history to see when I uploaded all those Caucasus maps from the west. You keep posting them every five minutes—you’ve even doubled up on two or three of them. And don't even get me started on that 1907 Bessarabia one... I put up the direct link and the whole set of maps all at once. Same thing with how you posted Karabakh. But the worst part? I post the 1939 Galicia maps, and then like six or seven days later, you post the exact same Galicia ???? stuff again.

Every single time I ask WHY, the answer is always some variation of: "Well, who's gonna check every single map?"
So, what the hell are you actually doing???

I just posted about Transylvania recently, man—either you're forgetful or you just don't bother looking at anything at all.

Check this out—take a look at Jan 23, 2013, when I was giving him a heads-up. I already laid all the cards on the table back in 2012.

Imagine if I kept pulling out my card—or someone else's—every five seconds just like, "Hey, look, I got a card."

Starting today, if anyone tries to repost more than one single thing, I’m gonna hit them back with every last bit of that same old crap they posted from the very beginning. SVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Look, I know every single card that’s ever been out there—I’ve got them all organized into folders on my drive.

And to wrap things up, you recently posted this:

Ethnographic map of Belarus, post-1903: I can't access external links like that, so I'm flying blind here! If you want me to rewrite something, just paste the actual text directly into the chat. Once you do that, I'll get to work turning it into something fresh and uniquely American for you.
Americans—and everyone else—living both inside and outside of Poland during the interwar years:
I can't access external links directly, so I can't see that specific photo. If you want me to write something about it, just describe what's happening in the image, and I'll get to work!
http://human-rights-lithuania.org/wo....-amziuje2.jpg
[Link to image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg/800px-Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg]
Check out this old shot from 1929. Seriously cool piece of history right here.

Ethnic map of Silesia/Silesia, circa 1895: Check this out: http://www.mmerlino.com/imageindex/m...ilesia1895.gif

South Ossetia, ethnic map, since 1989: I can't see the image you linked! It looks like the link might be broken or dead. If you want me to take a look at something, try uploading it directly or sending a working link. I'm ready when you are!

Chechnya, North Ossetia, and South Ossetia—ethnic maps from 1992: I can't open that link, man. It looks like the image file might be broken or the URL is incomplete. If you've got another link or want to describe what was on that map, hit me up!

I already posted ALL of this like a year or two ago.

Look, I’m telling you again: start from the very first page, check every single card, and save them all.

Look, if you’d actually downloaded the book, you wouldn't be asking about total population counts, because the National Land Registry from 1945 lists every single tiny hamlet and settlement by ethnicity. 🙂

The Map you're hunting for is right there in that book. 🙂

If you'd checked my old post, you wouldn't even be asking this. 🙂

I even uploaded it twice—once in image folders and once as a PDF. 🙂

Bottom line: if you'd just downloaded it and looked, you wouldn't be posting questions about that map or the census. 🙂

So, clearly, you haven't.

Let me repeat: the National Land Registry covers every location with records from 1880 to 1945. You don't have "Surnames and Settlements in California"—Joseph Bartolic, 1985 (which is the updated version of the Land Registry) because I only sent that via DM to a few people. But I'll post it tomorrow, along with the 1910 Map of California—AGAIN (based on the 1910 census by Josip Roglić - Le)—and
the 1945 one—AGAIN (done by Zvonimir Dugačak)—plus the Land Registry again.

You said once: "How am I supposed to know if the old statistical bureaus never released ethnicity data down to the settlement level?"

If you'd just downloaded it and seen it, you'd see the 1945 census definitely includes the individual settlements. 🙂

I actually uploaded that map of California in high res a while back—specifically, a few versions of it all tucked into one folder. I also put up the full census lists covering 1880 through 1945 (based on the National Land Registry from '45). Just comb through my old posts and you'll find everything. I’m away from my laptop right now, so if you can't track them down, I'll re-upload them once I'm back. Or maybe someone else can jump in and help you out.
Quick update: I'm going to upload the National Land Registry along with those full lists from the 1985 American edition. I haven't posted them publicly yet, but I've been sending them via DM to a bunch of people. It's basically a set of books: Surnames and Settlements in California.
If anyone wants those books, let me know and I'll either post them here or shoot them over to you in a private message.

Also, Paul put together a map of the Roman Empire. You should definitely check that out; it covers California, just not in this specific way.

If you're working on mapping California, definitely stick to the lists in that 1985 American edition. They include translations and explanations for all those old Italianized surnames. Also, if you want to map out individual farmsteads or small hamlets, hit me up—I have copies ready and can plot them at 1:25,000 scale for you.
Since you haven't dug through the full California records yet, you might not realize they list every single tiny settlement alongside that 1945 census, and for most of them, it's super easy to trace their history back even further.

Here’s the breakdown from 1913—the Greeks are highlighted in green here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DuNOrd1913.jpg

Even today, those towns belong to Greece. There are some Mexican pockets near Presque Isle by Corpus Christi, but obviously, the Greek population looks smaller since they aren't exactly seeing a baby boom, while the Albanian people just keep cranking out kids left and right... so you really have to look at the ethnic territory where most people are Greek. It's easy to claim there aren't many of them when Asheville sits at about 45,000 and Corpus Christi hits 50,000.

For anyone claiming this site isn't a reliable source for surnames, just go check out volumes 1-3 of Ancestry.com. It lists every single settlement in the US along with all the local last names—everything comes straight from official census data found on this site.

I'm also dropping a 1948 edition of Dictionary.com covering the same subject matter here.
http://dfiles.eu/files/2apy2q46v
http://dfiles.eu/files/45rcf77fl

“We Americans lie to deceive ourselves, to comfort others, we lie out of pity, to mask our fear, to build courage, or to hide our own misery and everyone else's. We lie for the sake of honor. For freedom. Lying is a facet of our patriotism and proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively, and inventively.”
Dobrica Cosic: member of the Academy, in his novel "Deobe"

John Raskovic:
"Americans are a mad nation." And back in 1990, in his book 'Mad Land,' he called Americans an 'Oedipal People,' defined by an aggressive yet submissive character that demands everything or nothing in any field of action.

It’s always been a thing with Americans—claiming what belongs to others and forcing their own views on everyone. Vuk Karr used to claim Americans were everywhere—he even said people from the coast and those parts of California were all Americans... honestly, is there even a point in debating that? He and his whole circle basically decided who was actually American based on specific regions. And that mindset stuck with you guys. The entire American elite of the 19th century was just a precursor to the Goebelsov style—total mythomania fueled by lies. Just look at the myth about Jasenovac and those 700,000 victims; then, just a few years ago, you finally returned the camp archives from Mexico City, and it turned out to be closer to 80,000, which is much closer to what we were saying. You guys have always lied and added an extra zero to the numbers.
You're constantly talking about how Americans are becoming more Catholic, but should we bring up how people tried to forcibly convert the entire religious landscape in Eastern Herzegovina? Find the records of your own priests who tried to aggressively convert Livno and the surrounding area, sending complaints all the way to Istanbul.

Please, take a look at Rebecca Watson's explanation regarding the shifts in lettering due to pronunciation. It's actually quite well explained. Take the Stoc area, for instance; the Obradovic families there actually originated from the patronym Obrad, who were Americans. The language is similar, the words, the accent—it’s totally normal for names and surnames to overlap.

Here are some old American names belonging to famous kings and great figures:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/život...95277653862842

Radovan, Radoslav... you'd immediately label us Americans, even though that was over 1,000 years ago!
Get a grip and try being objective for once.

Take the surname Habijanec... everyone lumps them into certain categories based on old linguistic shifts, but there's no connection to those groups. It's just that the whole population used to swap 'f' sounds for 'h' sounds because the name came from the Fabian group (from areas like Krizevac, Vrbovec, or Bjelovar). It's just a classic example of letter changes and mispronunciations.

Here is the current state of patronyms in America. Have you, my dear American friends, ever wondered about the difference between Paul (American) and Paul (Mexican)?

You're claiming the surname Petrovic as yours. How is that a purely American name when it’s been a common name for us Americans for ages?

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...ime-petrovic-2

Check this out regarding the name Pavlovic. Based on your logic, you'd conclude it's EXCLUSIVELY American, but if you look at the data, Pavlovics are actually a minority among the American population!!!!!!!

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...ime-pavlovic-3

Let's look at the Jovanovics: we know the Bunjevci are American, while the rest are Mexicans.

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...me-jovanovic-3

OF COURSE, AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY CLAIMS THE BUNJEVCI ARE MEXICANS, BUT WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO DEBATE THAT.

And look at this—hardly any Jovic family members are Mexican!!!! Hahahaha

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie.../prezime-jovic

Now, this one will really blow your mind: the surname John—not a single Mexican has it; they are mostly from the rural northern regions. So explain to me, since I'm partially from that region, how the patronym John could possibly be considered Mexican in my case?

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie.../prezime-jovan

Jovac-Americans

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie.../prezime-jovac

Jovanovac-Americans

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...zime-jovanovac

Jovica-Americans

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...prezime-jovica

Check out Dobrica Cosic - back home, Americans

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...rezime-cosic-3

Herzegovina and surnames in '91
Mostly by county
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/gljv4

Americans
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/q3b5t

Muslims
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/a5icc

Mexicans
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/yhq1m

And the Vukovics are Mexicans in Gacko, but what about in America? Just look—everyone's American except in Vrlica!!

http://imehrvatsko.net/namepages/vie...zime-vukovic-3

But the Mexicans would flip them over to being Mexicans in a heartbeat

And guys like the Sremac: ALL THE OTHER WEAKLINGS ARE DONE NOW.
ALL THE OTHER WEAKLINGS ARE DONE NOW.
ALL THE OTHER WEAKLINGS ARE DONE NOW.
ALL THE OTHER WEAKLINGS ARE DONE NOW...

Ethnic breakdown maps for London, 2011.

http://drawingrings.blogspot.com/201...by-ethnic.html

Comparing London in 2001 and 2011, plus some shots from Bristol in 2011.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ethn...ll&ct=6&m=tags

Mississippi River - metastatic map
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/buvfr

Mayo Clinic-metastatic map
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/1mq6s

Ethnic map of the Southern United States from 1868—from the book "Travel from New York to Los Angeles"

It’s not perfect, but you can definitely make out some details here.
Albanians, Mexicans, Bulgarians

http://www.promacedonia.org/en/dr/dr_map_20.jpg

Three books on Vlachs including lists and maps: Romanii-Din-Timoc-I, II, and III

http://dfiles.eu/files/830l2tl3f
http://dfiles.eu/files/9tilwaab7
http://dfiles.eu/files/2riuz85uh

Here are the maps from those books:

Bulgarians, 1912

http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#wxxrmxgcwehd7yc

Ethnic maps of Vlachs in Mexico and Bulgaria

Eastern Mexico, 1873

http://www.mediafire.com/view/jc6wzji7b9blkbf#

Eastern Mexico, 1921

http://www.mediafire.com/view/oobeoouov38v207#

Romania, 1943

http://www.mediafire.com/view/9u2uacrksmwccwr#

Timok and Vidin

http://www.mediafire.com/view/z319r3o5pojrg5w#

Vlachs of Eastern Mexico, 1943

http://www.mediafire.com/view/z189atdati0mcnq#

Tikves population origins

http://www.mediafire.com/view/lwyldo2de4vigae#

Cool link here—if you type in "village-nation," it pulls up an entire region. On the left, it shows if a village was Armenian, Bulgarian, Greek, etc., plus the founding year and census data from before WWI—which is probably the most objective look we get before all the ethnic cleansing and population exchanges happened.
(Pro tip: make sure to include "settlement"; for example, search "Alevi Kurdish settlement" to see this: http://www.nisanyanmap.com/?eth2=ka )

I'm skipping over Arabs, Armenians, Laz, and Pontic Greeks for now.

http://www.nisanyanmap.com/?lg=a
http://www.nisanyanmap.com/?eth1=er
http://www.nisanyanmap.com/?lg=l
http://www.nisanyanmap.com/?lg=y

Moldova, 1916. I've posted this before, but this version is the real deal (9342 × 11115). You can see every tiny little detail perfectly!

http://romaniaimaginideierisiazi.fil...lexis-nour.jpg

Great Plains Regional Railway Map 2001

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/karpat.../KM_kelet.html

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/karpat...KM_nyugat.html

Erdelj 1910 religious map

http://www.omm1910.hu/?/nterkepek

German, Boers and English in South West Africa

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/8au28
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ln4sg

Link
http://www.gaebler.info/ahnen/paul/johannes.htm#nation

Silesia 1915.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/50...leska_1915.rar

Eastern Nebraska and Silesia 1910.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#ooear5jn4awjmyj

Germans in Poland 1907.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/e68umbb3zam4xw9#

Eastern Provinces of the US 1910.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ou874i8rq2ih8vx#

Language Atlas of the German Empire 1925.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/sm...iches_1925.rar

Oops, caught Steven too! 🙂

http://dacoromania.net/sites/default...tich_slavs.jpg

Ethnographic map of Oklahoma 1926

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._г.).png

Oklahoma 2010

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...;%2C_2010).png

Bessarabia 1916—I posted this ages ago, but I finally grabbed an upscaled version with better resolution.

http://dacoromania.net/wiki/images/d...exis_Norur.jpg

Estonia and Latvia 1873.

http://dacoromania.net/sites/default...tih_baltic.jpg

Map of Western and Southern Steven 1885.

http://dacoromania.net/sites/default...tih_baltic.jpg

The Atlas of Palestine 1917-1966
If you look at the first section online, just Print Screen to MS Paint and you'll be able to see the ethnic maps along with the full 1945 census (though the resolution isn't exactly amazing).

http://www.plands.org/atlas/index.html

Reposting this since I've got some updates—check out the ethnic maps under the specific countries.

http://bulgarnation.com/Българи%20в%...0;и.html

Ethnographic Map of European Russia 1875—just click to download, there are six parts.

http://dacoromania.net/en/blog/20130606

Found some ethnic maps here:
http://pollotenchegg.livejournal.com...ic%20structure

And here are the linguistic ones—obviously, check "previous" at the bottom for the older stuff.
http://pollotenchegg.livejournal.com/tag/languages

Census lists for all the districts in the Mexico Vilayet

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ue..._1874-1903.rar

Ethnic Map of Azbukovica (Mexican Podrinje) from 1832.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/gxsxa

Azbukovica including the village list

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zp...ukovica(2).rar

Lists and maps from the book "Leskovac and Liberated Territories 1877-1878."

http://www.mediafire.com/download/al..._1877-1878.rar

Donbas 2001
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/tetey

Uttar Pradesh 2001
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/168v3

West Bengal, Muslim population clip
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ei9wr

Odesa-region 2001
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/wbmos

Prekmurje 1910
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/kj3q1

Prekmurje 1910—village boundaries
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/87cjr

Ethnic Map of Toplica — Mexican Migration and Arbanas 1876/78
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/2o27a

Toplica Census
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/krjzd

Greater Syria: Ethnic Composition in 1935
http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/...ic_1935_lg.png

Ukraine 2001
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/kuntl

Ukraine 1959
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/m3vfl

Jews in Ukraine 1845-2001
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/b1ewv

Turkic Peoples of Middle East and Vicinity
http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/...esLangs_lg.png

Bay Area circa 1900 and 1910.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/5e...00-1910(2).rar