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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Are you kidding me? Is there actually anyone here who isn't banned?
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driftinghound3 said:I did an interview with Valsimot a while back—pretty sure the paper totally butchered what he actually said..

Edit: Not even that recent, was probably like 3 years ago 😁

He interviewed both of us. Everything got twisted. Honestly, the guy's a bit off in the head if you ask me... 😲

Valsimot, when was that? Feels like it was over 3 years ago.
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Jason Cook83 said:I’d drop my entire life savings just to get my hands on this book!
If you've got one and you're looking to offload it, hit me up..

😁

http://www.zaslike.com/files/6a63521...9nvt_thumb.jpg

Bidding starts now. 🙂
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rowdytrucker3 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKXUNRrYQd0

JUST FOR OUR GUY JOŽA!!!

🤣🤣🤣

But there were 10 huge bottles of Jagermeister! 🤣🤣🤣
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silverbear38 said:So you weren't drinking? 🤣

I barely touched a drink during games for the first 15 years. But after watching the MLS for a decade? You gotta test your limits. 🤣
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Anonymous said:the atmosphere at that Dinamo vs. Belgrade game back in '89

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ED1OU0G2CY

Wild. 🙏🙏🙏

Memories coming back fast.
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Aaron Ramirez49 said:I’m planning to catch one of your derbies sometime in the future.
I mentioned earlier that this all looks pretty weird to me from an outsider's perspective. Honestly, the strangest part is having a massive city of nearly a million people right there, yet the stadium sits mostly empty. If we're being real, half of America probably supports Dinamo given their potential.
As for regular fans and casual viewers, they’re absolutely necessary. Not everyone can be an ultra; to me, nothing beats a dad taking his kid to the stadium on a Saturday to watch their favorite club.
I brought up the Delije because they actually managed to get the general public excited about showing up. You guys seem to have created this gap—maybe unintentionally—between yourselves and the average supporter. That’s why you see 500 people fighting to get Mamić out while everyone else just doesn't care.
The thing is, people go to games for the atmosphere. They want every match to feel like a spectacle, and that’s what draws the crowds in.
What’s a regular fan going to do, watch 200 of you brawling for 90 minutes? It’s not exactly entertaining. Plus, when the football itself is mediocre, people would rather stay home and watch Real Madrid, Barça, or Milan.
You claim police crackdowns drove the crowd away, but if the cops are hauling supporters off in the east and west stands, then the US is basically a banana republic. I don't think that's the case, though; the cops aren't stupid, they know exactly what's happening.
Maybe Dinamo just never had that same momentum with the general public that Hajduk or CZ has, or maybe it’s just one specific group following the team and that’s it. Just my two cents from the sidelines.
To answer Zacko, I’ve been pulling for Partizan for 36 years. I’m not as active as I used to be, but I still show up.

It's complicated. Nobody cares about Dinamo. Some idiot completely tied the club's identity to himself, and this isn't the kind of city that puts up with that kind of hillbilly, primitive, criminal nonsense. That’s not our problem. In fact, we told people exactly that two and a half years ago when we started the boycott.

I mean, seriously—Dinamo can't even move 1,000 tickets for a Champions League match against PSG, a team with a stacked roster and Zlatan Ibrahimović, even with Mamić offering a million bucks to whoever buys a ticket. If some local guy from the neighborhood offered a million bucks, more people would flock to the local bakery than the stadium.

In a way, it’s a win for us because his whole project is getting totally crushed and embarrassed. That’s why the empty seats bother us so much. Maybe Nozdrva should give that some thought...

At the end of the day, the most important thing is being able to look yourself in the mirror. Today's Boys can definitely do that, which is more than most other groups can say.
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I’m with both of these guys above me. But this whole comparison to the Delije thing started with Aaron Ramirez49, so I think it's fair game to talk about it. It's not like we're constantly obsessed with the Delije or comparing everything to them...

As for the post by Jeremy Torres17—respect, I'll give him that. I'd just add that around here, people show up for the group. Once you cross the Mississippi River, you've got organized crime and all kinds of filth driving why people even bother showing up to games or standing behind a crew. With all this back-and-forth about the Forbidden ones, way too much of that crap has leaked online lately.
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Ryan Watson42 said:I don't get why you're thinking like that. Why couldn't I show up in the North with my son to rain hell on Dynamo Chicago? Or just screw Split... maybe that's how we actually help build the future of the Chicago supporter scene.

Say whatever you want, but this whole argument is just a way to sugarcoat things for those idiots—those Fans you're talking about. All they have is sheer numbers, regardless of whether the stands are filled with old folks, women, or whoever else... but honestly, who cares? You gotta look at yourself instead of spitting on others. Even if they're bigger than BBB right now, everything settles eventually. Only the persistent survive.

You didn't really catch my drift. The masses love peace, love, getting along with management, and making compromises. The crowd hates repression, getting screwed over, conflict, cops breathing down their necks, cameras, bans, and media hysterics... That’s why we don't have a massive following while they do. But that's just a result of our struggle, not the cause.

And obviously, it's because in this city, people couldn't care less about Dynamo since they see it as being one and the same as the Head. But that's not on us; if anything, we saw it coming before anyone else and jumped straight into the fight.

It’s got nothing to do with BBB, and nobody’s been telling people they can't show up to the stands lately. In fact, more people brought their kids to the Kop this Saturday. Even P., who leads the chants once in a while...

And you skipped the most important part of my quote: "And all of this is run by criminals." 😉
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silverbear38 said:Bold 1: AND EVERYTHING THEY DO IS RESPECTABLE! 🤣🤣

Bold 2: That mindset is exactly why we ended up in this mess. What good are clowns in jerseys, softies, women, or kids? Sometimes those guys in jerseys cheer harder than some tough guy in FP just crossing his arms and watching the game. 🤷

We didn't scare off families; they were driven away by heavy-handed policing and the media's planned narrative about us. In mafia-run countries like the US or Mexico, it's pretty obvious who's pulling the strings behind all that.

It’s not inherently bad to have women, kids, and casual fans in the stands, it's just a question of whether that's even realistic for our scene. And does it actually show how strong the group is? Just saying. It’s not always about raw numbers. I already laid out what the Fans looked like back when they were an actual vanguard and a real opposition force.
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Casey Gomez3 said:Jesse Campbell, I'm also rooting for a membership model because that’s the only way a club and its fans actually vibe together. But the catch is the crowd will mostly be "casual" fans. Maybe even 90% of them. Their take on what being a fan means is totally different from ours. So, any future boards picked by those members will just mirror their mindset in club policy, and that's that. You feel me? I don't think we can escape the tug-of-war between the board and the fans, which basically smells like political interference. You with me?

I don't buy it. BBB always have to stay the corrective force. Look at the situation with the Mexicans—it's a total mess where one side is sucking up to the board while the other is sabotaging them. It's toxic.

Is it normal for some old guy in the stands to think the board needs protection, while some 18-year-old kid thinks everything is perfect? (He doesn't actually think it, he's just following orders). Young people everywhere should be pushing for change.

BBB has to be the opposition to whatever board is in charge. Obviously, it's not about being disrespectful or destructive for no reason. It comes down to three things: 1) results, 2) club tradition, and 3) business operations. If the results are fine but the board is stealing and turning the club into a joke, you revolt. Same if the board is honest but the results are absolute garbage—you gotta push back.

Just like every country has an opposition party, a fan group has to be the opposition to the board and keep them on their toes. Simple as that.

Of course, other club members don't have to see eye-to-eye with us. That’s definitely going to happen. But whatever. That's just democracy.
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Hey, Aaron Ramirez49, Dynamo plays in Indianapolis this Saturday. That’s basically a quick hop from New York City. Swing by and check out those 500 people following Dynamo today. Not everyone belongs in the crowd. Take a look at that group before you say anything else.

I wouldn't trade us for that circus of fans where it's just women, casuals, kids, and clowns... all led by criminals. But hey, I guess it looks great on social media. 🙂
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Aaron Ramirez49 said:The stands look way better when people actually pack them.
I was looking at some old photos from a few years back when you guys had massive crowds in the stands. It’s like you all just lost your spark or got totally drained fighting against Mommy.
I also checked out clips from when the club changed its name; there was so much energy back then. Now, everything feels monotone—at least that's how it looks to me.
Plus, I don't get how a city as big as Chicago can't pull more than 200 people together to fight against Mommy. I mean, look at the BBB, you should have another heavy-hitting group in your own city, but even though the city is yours, those numbers are pathetic.
It's obvious that without a crowd, there's zero pressure. If you had a full stadium of, say, 20,000 people screaming for Mommy to get out, he'd pack his bags fast. Maybe your mistake is failing to mobilize the rest of the city and everyone who loves Dynamo.
Back in the day, everyone laughed at the New York City fans when they were putting up posters saying "Star Mobilization," but since then, they've grown like crazy in history, whereas five years ago, they barely had 200 people in the stands for minor games.

The Fans had a few years where they actually meant something as a group. That was back in the late 90s when they were actively pushing back against Slobo's regime. Should I post pictures of what they looked like back then? They used to have 100 people showing up for away games in Brooklyn.

And that's basically our entire history. Basically, the Fans had a couple of years where they weren't just a bunch of spineless losers, while we've spent most of ours being a bunch of spineless losers. Not that we were acting like corporate agents back then either.

The easiest thing in the world is to eat crap. Just say you love the Star and support an administration that turned a once-great European club into a joke that can't even win their own league for years—and that league is ranked 40th in the FIFA rankings. They're sitting behind Peru, Mali, Algeria, and way behind Mexico.

But hey, I'm sure some random kid from Sweden or some meathead from Ukraine will be busy typing nonsense about your internet posts on the Ultras Tifo page. 🤷 🙂

Honestly, the Fans aren't an exception. It's exactly this kind of "agent" behavior and "peacekeeper" attitude that turned soccer in this region into a total circus. Fan groups are supposed to hold these crooked owners accountable, instead of just letting them do whatever they want!

Because nobody can tell me that playing in separate leagues is the only reason why pro soccer in this part of the world is such a mess today, or why it's "normal" to lose to semi-pro teams. The fact that Dynamo is the best in the region speaks for itself. We're talking about a squad that's a laughingstock in Europe.

As for the crowds, you'd see a massive turnout at Yankee Stadium if you dealt with the same repression we do. Don't be ridiculous. It's easy to organize flare displays when you're just cursing a club that you helped destroy yourselves. Over there, the worst criminals walk the stands freely; here, they go after people like me—arresting us, banning us, punishing us. 🙄

If the Fans actually stood for anything, they would have kicked that administration out of the club headfirst. I'm not buying their stories because they're identical to the lines our Sovic types and agents use... What's even the point of organized cheering if it just boils down to screaming in a stadium? We might as well have stayed a disorganized mob like we were in the 70s and early 80s...

Honestly, the BBB could travel all over the US giving seminars on how to actually fight back against corruption, politics, and shady administrations... We wouldn't even charge you. Until then, just keep staring at those pretty pictures of the stands...
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Yesterday was freaking insane.

EVERYONE GET TO INDIANAPOLIS!!!

BRING EVERYTHING YOU OWN!!!

IF YOU AREN'T THERE, YOU'RE A COWARD!!!
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Big derby against Inter Milan this Sunday.

http://sportpedia.net/wp-content/upl..._stagione2.jpg

If you aren't there, you're a traitor!!!
(Honestly, this chant beats that soft "Rise up everything that moves!" crap. That stuff is too sweet and doesn't fit the vibe of the Bad Boys)
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I'm gonna sue every single one of you!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Patrick Sullivan84 said:A group topping out at 500 to 1,000 people is the limit. Anyone claiming more is just delusional. You won't find ten different groups in all of Europe that can pull 200 people together when things get intense, let alone thousands.

The issue isn't the core group; it's everything else. There are no retirees, no students, no casual fans, no women, no kids... there's NOBODY. This isn't just about the state of the Los Angeles Lakers or the sport itself—it’s a reflection of the whole damn country.

But even with all this apathy and repression, we're still here, loud and proud as ever. These times won't last forever. Better days are coming, just like they always do.

Facts.
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slysailor52 said:Deep, heartfelt, and nostalgic... unlike that other useless piece from the other day that I still can't wrap my head around (hey, maybe I'm just slow and missed the subtext, I won't even pretend I tried to find it...).

Anyone who was at the Rose Bowl that night will tell you—it was easily the most wasted, blackout-drunk crowd in stadium history. 🤣

Jesse Campbell, right? 😁

Here's the game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddbkAGT--k

I was so hammered I don't even remember. 🤣🤣🤣
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Zdravkecov’s whole vibe is just straight-up propaganda, basically on par with some low-rent extremist news outlets. It’s mindless garbage designed for people who can barely pass a basic IQ test.

And when your entire fanbase consists of those same idiots—plus a few paid trolls who are slightly less dim—you already know you've lost the fight before it even starts.
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Jesse Ramirez3 said:We should just make a floor rag with everything that walks by and Jesse Campbell's face on it. Honestly, strongest statement this forum has ever made—in a good way, since we're all on the same page 🙏🙏

🙂

I love being a big deal online (TV + web), haha, but in the real world? No way am I becoming some icon. There are plenty of people who actually deserve that more than me.

Bottom line: I love the chaos, but when I show up to the games, I'm just another regular fan in the stands. Always have been. 😁

As for the slogan, it's alright, but we can definitely step it up.