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brightcobra91 said:Oh my God...... 🙄
What was his environment like? Who did he live with, and how did people treat him?
"The medical team's extensive report suggested the minor was in an adolescent crisis, but with psychotic elements."
What does that even mean? Did they determine he has a mental illness or...?
Honestly, I don't think there's a logical answer because he isn't rational. The truth is, we're never going to truly know what goes on inside heads like that. We can throw diagnoses at them all day, but the human brain is so insanely complex that it's impossible to pinpoint exactly why someone turns out that way.
I couldn't find any info on who he lived with or how people treated him. And "adolescent crisis"? That's a vague term you could slap on pretty much any teenager with mental issues—it doesn't tell us anything. An adolescent crisis can spiral into schizophrenia or personality disorders, or it can just pass once they hit adulthood and disappear completely. I think we always need to dig for a real, coherent explanation in cases like this. It’s the only way to actually make society better and more humane.
Can anyone actually explain what was going on with John Doe? I read some stuff about him online, but it doesn't make any sense. He committed a double murder at 17—shot a 16-year-old girl right in front of her school with a handgun. He goes to juvie, but they let him out for weekends occasionally. One weekend, he grabs a Ford, robs a bank, takes an entire family hostage, and kills a cop. And he was only 20 at the time. Here are some quotes regarding him: "During the investigation and indictment of the participants in this heinous crime, the perpetrator's statement shocked everyone: 'If she hadn't shown up, someone else would have, and I would've killed him.' That was the statement of a seventeen-year-old, delivered with zero emotion in his voice and a blank expression on his face. Psychologists and psychiatrists later described that face in numerous reports as expressionless, vacant, showing no sign of internal feeling or emotion."
That night, once he realized the cops were closing in, he shot Officer John Smith three times. He held a whole family hostage—a mother and two kids—just so he could pull off this massive surrender in front of TV cameras and a swarm of reporters. Now, Doe is facing trial again for the most serious felonies, this time as a young adult, and the public is watching. Just like four years ago, the defendant stated, "...I'm not guilty of a single thing on this indictment." He even had a unique way of reacting to the charges themselves. When told to stand while the indictment was being read, he just said, "I don't want to," and stayed seated between two burly bailiffs. Once again, it was that same expressionless face and that hollow, emotionless voice. Some psychologists have noted elements of depersonalization in his behavior, like he’s watching someone else commit these acts. This is what psychiatrists previously determined about him: "In early 1996, after committing heavy felonies, he was evaluated at the Veterans Affairs Hospital in Small town, USA before sentencing. The medical team's extensive report concluded that the minor was experiencing an adolescent crisis, but with psychotic elements. They recommended outpatient treatment but were strongly against placing him in juvenile detention facilities." Does anyone have a logical explanation for why a young person would be driven to do this, or what kind of satisfaction he gets from it?
briskgull27 said:What do you lot of "mentally stable" people actually think when you run into a schizophrenic?
Alright, let's get outta here.
Man, I still haven't met a real lunatic yet.
Honestly, that guy's acting like a total psycho. It’s actually starting to freak me out.
Man, what a disaster.
Looks normal enough to me.
But he’s still holding on, looking completely out of it.
Thank God I don't have anything like that.
What the hell? What? Seriously?
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I haven't met a single schizophrenic yet, but honestly? I’d love to. Call me weird if you want, but I actually prefer hanging out with people who deal with serious mental stuff. I've got my own baggage to deal with—it's not schizophrenia, but it's there. I don't know, I just feel like I'd get along way better with someone struggling than with these "normal" boring, self-righteous idiots.
Isina is right—the social stigma is massive. It’s freaking brutal. And it’s not just about people with schizophrenia; it hits anyone dealing with mental health issues. I went to med school, so I expected a bit more empathy, but instead, I see so many people treating those with mental illnesses like they're just total lunatics. Like they aren't even human, or like they're somehow fundamentally broken because of their condition. Or you've got some idiot looking down on someone struggling with depression, treating them like they're the lowest form of life on earth just because they're going through it.