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Jeremy Reyes4 said:But when his kid does something similar eight years later—then suddenly it’s totally fine...
Michael Diaz4 said:Vettel totally smoked Alonso there—and he was driving an inferior car that just couldn't keep up on the straights. He was closing the gap through the corners, which proves who actually knows how to drive a line and who's just mashing the gas pedal... Real skill shows up in the turns, and that's where it was obvious Alonso was struggling with a slower machine...
Michael Diaz4 said:Man, what are you even looking at...? Just look at those lap times he was putting down... Seriously... And who was actually developing the Renault car before him...? Huh...? You don't know, do you...? Honestly, I'm done trying to argue with you... Just remember that mess Nelson Piquet pulled with that intentional crash—and how that guy just sat there quiet and played dumb... Real class, real skill, real fair sportsman right there... So yeah, the guy whining while leading and driving scared is no surprise, because he’s got zero talent and zero backbone... Meanwhile, the penalty went to that old model-chasing jerk...
Michael Diaz4 said:😂That’s all I can say about how much you actually know—honestly, after this, anyone should probably just stop arguing with such a self-proclaimed "expert." But because of this whole mountain of nonsense, there's still going to be plenty of pushback regarding your mistakes and those factual errors we aren't even going to dignify with a response anymore... which is really why you've lost all credibility... but hey, we'll get to that when the time comes...
Alright, here we go—another round of this nonsense. I’m only jumping in to respond one last time, though you clearly realized you haven't actually been following Formula 1 since yesterday, boy...
That’s totally contradicting what you said in your last post...😍
Michael Diaz4 said:Man, kid, you clearly have no clue—Renault had the fastest car by far that year, easily the fastest... maybe try a quick Google search if you aren't sure.
...how it was developed and who worked on it... just look at the lap times throughout the whole season and you'll see that Renault had a way more dominant car back then...
I think Fernando Alonso would be fired on the spot if Vettel joined Ferrari, just because of that raw speed he possesses...
Someone else would be better for car development, and that can't be Fernando, since he only found success when stepping into a nearly finished car... Maybe they should bring in someone new to lead the team...
The fight between Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel during the United States Grand Prix was some of the best racing you’ll ever see.
It was such a wild scrap—not just because they were door-to-door for 14 laps, but because you had two world champions actually fighting for every inch of asphalt.
Alonso, obviously in a slower car, had to defend like his life depended on it while simultaneously nursing tires that were 10 laps older than Vettel's... a tough spot to be in.
Vettel, on the flip side, lacked the top speed on the straights, so he had to manufacture a gap just to stay close enough to make a move.
The whole thing kicked off when Vettel overtaking happened—Alonso lunged around the outside of Copse right after the German rejoined ahead of the Ferrari following his second pit stop.
Honestly, it might be the gutsiest move I’ve seen since Mark Webber passed Alonso at Eau Rouge in the 2011 Belgian Grand Prix.
Copse is a 180mph corner—it's intense even if you're solo. It’s a blind, high-speed right-hander where the wind can really toss the car around.
Nailing that corner on any given lap is hard enough... it takes massive guts.
Now imagine trying to dive down the outside of a guy who has zero intention of letting you through. Vettel held his line until the very last millisecond, right as they hit the turn.
But Fernando Alonso didn't blink—he kept his foot pinned, hit the apex, and managed to keep the car from sliding wide on the exit.
Talk about pure commitment. That move screamed: "I don't care who you are or what's happening, I'm getting past."
I was genuinely shocked he pulled it off, especially considering how much Vettel pushed him.
It felt so classic for Alonso—after the nightmare of qualifying 19th, he was determined to drag that Ferrari up the order no matter what.
It’s exactly why he’s still arguably the Best Driver in the world, when you look at the big picture.
The showdown wrapped up with another great move, again at Copse, though this time Vettel took the inside line instead of the outside.
Vettel's overtake was basically a rerun of what he did to McLaren's Kevin Magnussen earlier in the race.
Alonso drifted a bit wide at Luffield to try and get better traction on the exit, and Vettel just darted into that inside gap—doing exactly what you usually aren't supposed to do.
It caught Alonso off guard, and even though he tried to squeeze him out, Vettel stayed on the gas. He carried enough momentum out of the turn to stick with him and pull alongside into Copse.
Down the straight, Vettel was leaning into Alonso and Alonso leaning back. It was a game of chicken on both sides, but they both had enough class and experience to back off when the moment called for it.
Just incredible racing from both of them... especially after all that complaining over the radio.
ruggedhawk20 said:Jacques Villeneuve.
And Damon Hill too...
jadeseal7 said:Then Mika Häkkinen is a Maestro too ☕
stormybadger8 said:Vettel went up against Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, and Jenson Button...
but fighting five champions doesn't automatically make you a Maestro—whereas Alonso taking on just one? That’s what makes him a Maestro. 😁
you nailed it... really well put.🤣
Michael Diaz4 said:😁 I wouldn't bet on that... He said it himself, and we should probably take his word for it—especially since he was clearly untouchable on the straights...
Just more nonsense, and here he is with that "Maestro" nickname...😂 I've never seen anything truly masterful from him. Sure, he scraped by as champion, but let's be real—Schumacher absolutely tore him apart, even with a much slower car... Besides, even Schumacher admitted his toughest battles were against Mika Häkkinen, though you could say the same about Alonso's dominant car back then. If he hadn't won, he would've been a total bust...
Look, I'm not saying he's bad—he's just had terrible luck...
Don't talk nonsense. Alonso was impossible to catch on the straights, but in the end, Vettel caught him on the brakes...
He isn't a bad driver, just unlucky... What would you say about Massa or Ricciardo? That they're bad? Not a chance, not even in my wildest dreams...
stormybadger8 said:There’s a reason they call him Alonso 😍
Honestly, it's just phenomenal at this point 😁
Whenever anyone else's car dies, it's just bad luck—but when Maestro loses to anyone, suddenly we're hearing all these wild Ferrari stories about "mysterious technical failures"...
I'm just waiting for the inevitable excuse that he was driving a car with no wheels or four flat tires 🤣
Alonso also says he had discussed the possibility of retiring to his team due to a number of aerodynamic issues with the car.
"We had an aerodynamic problem and were thinking about retiring the car. They were telling me to be very, very careful through the high-speed corners where it easy to lose the car. Unfortunately WE Had The battle AT The wrong moment of The raca probably. I discussed with the team two laps before the battle, when Sebastian Vettel went out of the pits, whether to retire the car because we had some aerodynamic problems.
"The rear wing was stalling and it was causing a lot of problems in the car—we had battery problems, then Sebastian Vettel arrived and we had battery problems, stall problems, and we needed to save fuel in the last part of the race... so we said it would be impossible to keep him behind."
stormybadger8 said:That’s exactly my point—I don't see what the big deal is?
1. Mercedes
2. Williams
3. Ferrari
4. Red Bull
5. FI
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stormybadger8 said:Aside from the fact that the Ferrari is just a better car than the Red Bull...
You're forgetting the fact that Kimi is in a complete mess right now—and let's be honest, Ferrari is basically the second-best team on the grid... 😁
stormybadger8 said:Sure, Ricciardo might be better right now...
But it’s also true that even during Vettel's absolute worst season in Formula 1—where he's stuck dealing with pathetic team tactics—
he still manages to outdrive the maestro at the end of the day... 🤣
Basically, Vettel's worst is still better than the maestro's best...
So go ahead, keep comforting yourselves if you want...🙂