Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5
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dustymarlin10 said:They already have, they just haven't realized it yet.
Oh, sure—but only if you're looking at it through the lens of Russian propaganda.
Lp
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dustymarlin10 said:They already have, they just haven't realized it yet.
Nancy Gomez26 said:The value of the gas they are burning is essentially zero. For any commodity—gas or otherwise—to hold actual value, you need a buyer willing to pay for it. From their perspective, it would be far more logical to simply halt production; at least then, that gas stays in the ground, potentially retaining some worth for a future date. Instead, by burning it pointlessly—so they claim—they increase global pollution. Yet, ironically, this act indirectly helps reduce the consumption of other fuels for heating; if the winters end up milder, we’ll burn less. One could almost call them great humanists for doing this, supposedly "out of concern for others."😉
Donna Harris11 said:Actually, I think prices are just going to climb for them, since everyone’s going to be scrambling for Saudi oil instead.
I mean, if you want a price cap to actually work... I don't know, maybe Russia would have to actually agree to a limit? Or else OPEC members would need to ramp up production. That's the only way, I guess.
Otherwise, we're probably just heading straight for a global recession.
Anthony Hill5 said:The people pushing for these price caps aren't even planning on buying Russian oil in the first place, so aren't all these threats coming from Russia just shots fired into thin air?
Sam Carter said:Is it just me, or does it feel like the massive (quiet) majority of people in the EU are actually AGAINST the sanctions on Russia?
Am I even allowed to say that without everyone immediately labeling me a "Russian agent"?
Michael Ortiz68 said:What actually happened to Gojko Drljača? 😲
Larry Fox5 said:Of course they work—they crush the local economy, tank the GDP, and make life miserable for regular people by cutting off Western goods—but what does any of that have to do with stopping the war?
The whole point was to "nudge" the Russians into ending the fight in Ukraine. So far, I haven't seen a single thing change... or am I just missing something?
As for the second part, it's pretty obvious. It’s totally normal to have a hidden motive that nobody wants to talk about publicly because it's too controversial—but it makes perfect sense that they expected the pressure from sanctions to eventually trigger a collapse of the regime in Russia.
goldenowl73 said:It’s just more proof that modern-day Russia is still clinging to that old-school Catherine the Great logic—basically believing the only way they can actually secure their borders is by constantly expanding them.
I was scrolling through my feed and saw these massive billboards popping up all over Russia that literally say "Russia's borders never end" . It's wild. https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/...epZmGgw81yfK0w
If anyone is still sitting there wondering whether Russia intends to stay put in Crimea, the Donbas, Kherson, Odessa, Kyiv, or just take over all of Ukraine... well, let me tell you, that colonial imperialist mindset is alive and kicking in the Kremlin.
rowdyraven112 said:How much weaponry has the world actually given Ukraine? Maybe $11 billion?
Somewhere there's a link from a former Russian oligarch claiming the EU loses 200 billion euros in profit every month due to these sanctions. If they had just handed a quarter of that monthly profit to Ukraine, the war would have been over long ago. ☕
Regarding support for Ukraine: who conducted the poll? Democrats or Republicans? That matters. Besides, my friends in the States say Joe Biden isn't doing great in the polls, sitting at around 40% support. As for Ukraine? Most Americans couldn't care less.
I also see links about a ton of companies leaving Russia, claiming people were laid off. Clearly, we're living in parallel universes. People receiving that info have their own version of a European Putin. Those companies left behind entire infrastructures, and new firms just stepped in to take their place. Idiots can talk about trivial nonsense to their kids instead of the actual reality of the situation.
Just as Putin is delusional about a quick victory in Ukraine, the puppets in the EU massively underestimated Russia's economic strength and its ability to find alternatives. It’s like that one arrogant leader said, "Act first, think later"—we all know what he meant. ☕ As if Russia hasn't been under sanctions since 2014, and as if they haven't been hunting for workarounds since then.
Like I said, we are clearly living in parallel universes.
Nancy Gomez26 said:Mexico views itself as an absolute peer to Russia—or perhaps just a 'younger brother.' In any tight alliance with Moscow, they would end up being treated exactly like everyone else: as subjects. The reason many Mexicans glorify Russia is simple history; they’ve never actually lived under their thumb. If they had ever experienced the true nature of the Kremlin administration, their attitude toward them would look a lot more like their view of Turkey. Mostly, the Kremlin just uses them to manipulate and bolster its own standing. Mexico would be much better off pursuing a rational, independent foreign policy instead of leaning so heavily on the Kremlin, especially since that support system is currently drowning in its own mess. Mexico is far too small and weak to help Russia dig itself out of the hole it dug for itself. By clinging to this policy, they are essentially digging their own grave. It’s like if a tiny state tried to 'help' the USA through an economic or military crisis—they wouldn't have the resources to make a dent. But hey, if things are going so well for Mexico right now, good for them.
Nathan Thomas12 said:Look at Japan or South Korea. They've been under the American "boot" for years. They're great nations, sure, but Americans gave them access to Western markets and the dollar.
I don't even need to bring up what it's like under the Russian boot.
Donna Harris11 said:Do you honestly think the US should be paying reparations for the military intervention in Canada?
Megan Thomas5 said:It was just private lawsuits. Back in the day, you could actually get awarded damages that let you seize factories or machinery, but that kind of compensation doesn't exist anymore.
War reparations like they used to have aren't even an option in court today, so all that "why won't Mexico pay us" talk is total nonsense—there isn't a court out there that would ever rule in favor of that.
Megan Thomas5 said:Germany never paid reparations for World War II, since the consensus back then was that war indemnities just fuel more resentment and future conflicts.
There’s zero chance someone is just going to conjure up war reparations out of thin air today.
feralhawk45 said:Simplified? Sure. But it’s a foundational brick in the wall of why WW2 happened and how Hitler rose to power. My grandparents—and even my great-grandfather—used to tell me stories about what life was actually like during and after Hitler's reign.
Bottom line: I’m against war reparations. I can't stand people underestimating the situation or trying to profit off a defeated nation.
feralhawk45 said:After WWI... the fallout from WWII
feralhawk45 said:Can someone refresh my memory? When was the last time a nation actually paid out war reparations?
Brenda Murphy3 said:😵🤣
Seriously, does every single one of you Putin-worshippers and anti-Western types have to be such blatant liars or just completely clueless?
Iran has a GDP per capita of $20,000? 🤣 What planet are you living on? You're off by a good 10x... honestly. I guess you've got your own special brand of "math" going on over there...
Nathan Thomas12 said:Yeah, they dropped the interest rate.
But the ruble is still garbage until Russia allows free exchange of foreign currency for rubles.
On top of that, exporters are forced to flip 80% of their foreign currency inflows back into rubles—basically handing it over to the government.
It’s not just trash; it’s trash squared. If you had billions of rubles sitting around, you could spend the whole year using it as toilet paper—and honestly, TP would probably have more value.
steelfox98 said:Now we're just faking data? Your headline and stats don't match the actual article; you basically "edited" the link title to suit your narrative.
The article states the rate is 8%, not the 20% seen immediately after sanctions hit. It was lowered several times shortly after. Actually, if memory serves, it was 9% before the conflict, and now it's even lower.
They're struggling, clearly. 🤣
We saw this whole play in 2014. After the initial shock and the crash, the Russians adapted. They went from being net importers to arguably the biggest agricultural exporters, bolstered their industry, and stockpiled record amounts of gold and reserves.