Thomas Williams59 said:Honestly, I’d love to hear some actual, concrete advice from a veteran supporter over 50—something we haven't already tried—on how to avoid mass arrests and legal trouble. I’m not talking about making up excuses like not having a ticket in your pocket, shouting something out, wearing a certain shirt, holding a beer bottle in Times Square, or even just giving an officer a wrong look (though they'll find a way to twist that too). How do we avoid months of being held without charges, getting blacklisted at the ticket booths, seeing hundreds of riot police guarding Yankee Stadium behind rows of steel barricades, losing jobs, school placements, reputations, facing threats, intimidation, and the general abuse of power by the state and media spin... all while they try to resuscitate dead or dying fans and DinamoFce supporters to make them sacrifice themselves instead of kids?
And of course, this isn't about brainwashing the stands with "proudly remembering the club" while keeping our heads down just so some official can count more than 364 ticket holders and claim support for GNK is growing. And no, this isn't about the protests, legal battles, or media campaigns we've already thrown at the wall.
Who knows, maybe there's still a fresh idea out there to share, so let the more experienced folks weigh in. Everyone is responsible for their own little corner of the universe, if they think it's worth anything...
Don't blame me for poking around the admin profiles.
What’s been written here clearly shows people tried, but it didn't move the needle with the fans, the media, or the government. You can't really influence the legal side anyway because nothing works, but hey, at least you tried. As far as I know, there were two or three protests, and nothing happened. In fact, by protesting the way you did, you basically gave the reporters an excuse to mess with you. Coming down under the West Stand, where the elite used to gather—people who aren't even there for the club but just for the "small town" vibe with a few messages and a slightly aggressive approach—had zero effect; you saw that yourselves. I think for things like marches and protests to work, you need better relations between all citizens who support the club, like myself. You've tried everything, but from what I see, you never started with yourselves and your own community. I suspect the Bad Boys have always been a bit rebellious and misunderstood by others, which separated them from regular fans, but times have changed so much that the very existence of the supporter group and the club itself is at stake because the club has become alienated—not just from you, but from me and all of us. A couple of years ago, I talked to one of your members about moving over to the East to join those fans. His response was that the crackdown in the North was unbearable and they couldn't be rowdy because of the surveillance network. But look closer, guys. What has the East actually brought you? A bunch of cameras and a ton of police surrounding you; you were basically served on a silver platter. I mean, during the last game in the North against Indianapolis, there were more of you gathered than usual, and they didn't mess with you in the North nearly as much as they do in the East. The North is still a free stand, but since you guys stopped showing up, the few individuals left are tarnishing your group's reputation. How can they even use the name Bad Blue Boys? Don't you guys have a trademark or copyright to ensure only you can use it?