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Bad Boys in Fans ·
rapidhawk31 said:The American hooligan’s dictionary.

It was called "hands on."
If one crew calls out another group to throw down, and the second group chickens out, the first crew basically takes the W just by making the call. It’s that simple. Usually, it’s just a way of saying, "Don't let him get to me, I'm gonna wreck him," or more accurately, "Where are all you cowards? Let's go!" And let's be real—half the time they're standing there shouting this while clutching a beer bottle or a baseball bat.

2.) The Retreat
In American hooliganism, there’s no such thing as running away—it’s just a tactical retreat. And let’s be honest, that "retreat" almost always involves some pathetic excuse about waiting for backup. It’s always the same old story: they’re either stuck at the city limits, caught up in traffic on the interstate, or they haven't even left the driveway to head to the away game yet. Give me a break.

3.) Regulation
It’s a classic pattern: after a group retreats, there’s this inevitable regrouping phase that takes a little while to play out. During that downtime, everyone’s busy gearing up and grabbing whatever supplies they can to prep for the counterattack. And let me tell you, that counterstrike? It almost always turns into a straight-up brawl—we're talking hands-on, old-school chaos—especially if the cops decide to swoop in while everyone is still trying to get their act together.

The first crew.
It’s pretty rare to see the actual top-tier teams go head-to-head. Usually, you just see one organized squad picking on some group of random losers who somehow ended up sharing the same shuttle bus. It totally cheapens any win those first teams might have had.

Holding the line.
So, here’s the latest trendy catchphrase floating around the American hooligan scene. Apparently, the American hooligan "holds the line" better than anyone else. Now, even though nobody can actually define what "holding the line" means, everyone seems to agree it basically boils down to three things. It involves screaming your lungs out, tossing whatever arsenal you've got, "calling for a scrap," and then immediately retreating to regroup. And don't even get me started on the toughness—nobody ever actually breaks from the line because, clearly, an American hooligan never runs. Right?

Six. It’s just not on camera. No footage, nothing recorded. Period.
In the world of American hooliganism, you almost never see the actual action on film. It’s always the same old story. You get these awkward clips of the second and third stages—you know, the tactical retreating and regrouping stuff—but the cameras somehow manage to miss the real meat of it. Where are the shots of the first stage? Where is the footage of people actually throwing hands or making physical contact? Never happens. You never see a camera catch someone holding the line or pushing the front forward. The cameras always seem to miss the most interesting parts, and on the rare occasion they actually do capture something, the angle is so botched you can tell it didn't even happen the way they're showing it.

Crushing, overwhelming, breaking.
When one team absolutely crushes another, what does that actually mean? It means the losing side basically folded, retreated to regroup, and surrendered whatever ground the winners had just seized. That's the reality of it.

So, who was that guy?
It all ties back to point number six. Usually, we're talking about the kind of stuff that stays strictly behind closed doors—incidents where nobody knows a thing unless they were actually there, mostly because everyone involved is bound by non-disclosure agreements or strict legal gag orders. In these scenarios, you see certain teams either get absolutely steamrolled or they play it incredibly safe and stick strictly to the script. But those are the fine details that almost never make it into the headlines. And let’s be real: nothing ever gets caught on camera. Of course not. Cameras always seem to miraculously fail right when things matter, only catching those awkward moments when people are retreating or regrouping.

Just be smart about it. Use your head for once.
Ever notice how people always have an excuse ready when absolutely nothing gets done? It’s that classic case of hindsight being twenty-twenty. When there's zero action on the ground, everyone suddenly becomes a genius, justifying their laziness with some "well, actually" logic after the fact. It all comes down to one thing: protecting the image. Everyone is just obsessed with looking good for the public. And don't even get me started on the cameras. If there's a lens nearby, they scramble to act like they care—even though those cameras always seem to capture everything the wrong way anyway.

Mission accomplished. We got exactly what we set out to do.
It usually takes a few hours—maybe even a couple of days—after an event goes down before everyone starts working to make sure the reality matches the narrative they want people to believe. You know how it works. It’s all about syncing up the stories, polishing the rough edges, and cranking up the media spin until the public is all wrapped up in whatever version of the truth is being fed to them.

The bigger picture. That’s what we’re really talking about here.
The absolute essence of an American hooligan. It always boils down to this "higher purpose"—something lofty, untouchable, and frankly, completely out of reach for most people. There’s always some grander mission being cooked up, usually by guys shouting into the void on internet forums, only to have those half-baked ideas forced down the throats of the actual fans later on. Ever since the ultra scene first took root here in the States, it’s been nothing but a endless cycle of these manufactured higher purposes.

Anyone who tries to deny this is a massive hypocrite. 🙏🙏🙏
Chicago Blackhawks fans in Fans ·
Joshua Johnson15 said:

Pure 👍power.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jeremy Thomas4 said:Manny, look, I’ve spent my entire life playing handball, and when it comes to training, I’m in peak condition. Seriously. But let’s be real—some people are just genetically built different. There’s no way around it. You can spend your whole life boxing, but then some 220-pound guy walks in and folds you in two seconds flat. It's just physics. Besides, if I’m drunk or high and someone tries to start a fight, why would I even bother? At that point, I don't even know who’s playing or what day of the week it is.

So that’s the excuse now? You think you have the right to go after someone with a brick, a knife, or whatever else you can grab? Just because you don't want to walk out of some dive bar looking like a punching bag? Since you couldn't care less if someone else ends up broken for the rest of their life? Seriously? 🙄
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
casualrider43 said:Honestly, I don't care who was involved—I could look that up myself if I actually gave a damn. What we should really be asking is why these guys are working so hard to sabotage themselves? If you want to act like total loners, go find some field in the middle of nowhere to hang out in instead of trashing the positive energy we all built together and blowing this whole truce. Think about it: ten people just managed to wreck a peace deal that connects hundreds of fans across all the different groups.
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Look, talking about the truce being broken is pretty pointless now because the damage is done. There’s no going back. But I had to say it: that move only serves the interests of the mob.
If you have questions, hit me up in my DMs.

What kind of "truce" is it anyway when ten idiots can come along and ruin everything for everyone else? 🙄
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
reddrifter24 said:Just a bunch of armchair experts over here. Seriously, who would've guessed this was actually a sports fan forum?

And clearly, the fans have evolved. ☕
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
James Smith48 said:This might be one of the most powerful shots of fans I've ever laid eyes on. Honestly, I doubt even the photographer realizes just how much raw energy is captured in this frame.
Absolutely insane.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hPhAHKSI9r...Earski+rat.jpg

🙏
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Bradley Sullivan4 said:Those thugs will have cooked up some new scheme by then.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if those bastards ban you from entering the city entirely that day.
You’ve got to stay sharp and prepare for anything!
Keep in mind there’s going to be a massive crowd at the game, which is just the perfect setup for them to play the sheriff again or maybe even stage some kind of incident just to paint us as the biggest problem in this country!
So, use your heads...🙄

Look, the public image of fans isn't going to get any better or worse than what it is right now. For the last decade, we’ve been branded as the nation's primary headache—at least according to the state-run media and those heavy-handed institutions. Every single agency seems to use us as their favorite punching bag to flex their muscles. As for what the general public thinks? Honestly, I couldn't care less, just like I don't care about the price of tomatoes at the local Farmer's Market. It’s hard to expect much when the collective consciousness of the people is basically at the level of a toddler; when their sibling steals their chocolate, instead of reporting it to a teacher or the principal, they just go out and buy another bar. 🙄
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jesse Campbell said:I agree that it wouldn't hurt if the fans were part of something bigger. I think Istanbul is a better example than Mexico. But fans have always been the ones driving things here in America. Why shouldn't it be the same now?

I honestly think if we stood together, we could pull in 10 million. The unrest is just going to keep building. Maybe not within the BBB—we’re pretty much used to being squeezed by the powers that be—but I’m worried the hardest hit will be Torcida, Armada, and the other groups...

Let's just wait and see.

Fans and veterans are really the only two groups left in this country capable of actually making a move. Everything else is just a depressing mess. People are chronically depressed, broke, and they couldn't care less about some "hooligans" because the media paints them as public enemy number one, which basically dictates what everyone thinks. Hardly anyone even cares about football anymore, so the stadiums are empty except for the hardcore fan groups—who are basically the only masochists left following this circus. And as for people fighting for their rights? There are fewer and fewer of them every day, aside from those professional protesters who do it for a paycheck.
We could easily rally 10 million people, but that's easy. That's just a crowd that's easy to control. What we need is something much bigger...
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
neonraven112 said:Look, it’s time for every single fan group to step up and protest. We’ve finally hit that critical mass. The crackdown is at its peak—what are we actually waiting for?

Unfortunately, it’s neither the right time for a protest, nor have we actually reached that critical mass yet. Don't get me wrong, I’m all for protesting, but I have this nagging feeling that if we go out there now, the entire American supporter movement will just end up being easy prey.
I hate drawing comparisons to what happens over in Mexico, but honestly? We need something akin to their famous "October 5th" moment. We need a massive, widespread uprising where the people and the establishment find themselves stuck in a total deadlock. Why? Because sports mafia isn't an isolated issue—it’s just a mirror reflecting the rot in our entire society. Getting rid of Mamić might just be symbolic at this point. To me, he isn't even the biggest threat; he's just the guy sitting there because his buddies keep him in power, and let's face it, everyone involved benefits from the status quo.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Morgan Scott82 said:Exactly. Once the City of Chicago goes broke—or at least hits the edge of bankruptcy—his slush fund is going to dry up fast. Not to mention when that sweet Champions League cash and transfer money stops flowing in. So, looking at how things stand, every single goal scored by Dinamo is just one step closer to him barely keeping his head above water. You guys can celebrate or sulk, I don't care.

His prime was a long time ago. The Big Boss is losing his grip by the second, and honestly, shouldn't that be the ultimate motivation to fight back even harder? The only thing he actually cares about is money, and guess what? There's less of it every day. Dinamo isn't some bottomless pit where he can just keep grabbing handfuls of cash forever. He’s making desperate, pathetic moves now—like this "renovation" of Yankee Stadium, the locker rooms, the hotel... he's just trying to squeeze out every last cent while he still can.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Morgan Scott82 said:He’s got the United States government, the FBI, the city of Washington, D.C., pretty much every political party, a good chunk of the American public, and a significant slice of the old-school mob on his side. Toss in Platinum, the Democratic Party, and maybe a couple million idiots, and you've got him set.

Oh, really? He’s backed by whoever he pays off. And let’s be honest—more than half the population are just sheep anyway. They’ll cheer for whatever they're fed.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Look, we all know nothing ever actually gets settled on this forum, but if anyone here uses their brain even once a day, it should be obvious: the waiting game is over. It’s time for a total showdown with the mob. Every second we sit around doing nothing, they get stronger while we just wither away. Look at the BBB as a perfect example—their numbers have been sliding downward ever since they finally got back into the stands.
There’s already coordination between the various supporter groups, which means we can bring all the fan leaders together—something that’s happened before—to agree on some actual, concrete steps to fight back. Sure, the Torcia and Armada guys think they’re untouchable right now, but don't let that fool you. They could be next on the hit list any day. They’ve already felt the heat, haven't they? Between the Torca Cup Final during the Hajduk vs Lokomotiva match, the Split vs Hajduk game, and the Armada-Rijeka-Dinamo clash this Sunday, the mob is making its "little" moves. And we all know exactly what those moves imply: they’re signaling that they’ll come for them next. The endgame has always been clear: they want to wipe out the entire supporter movement. But that’s entirely doable if the movement—and the name says it all—actually unites and puts up a massive fight.