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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Fair enough, but then the Bad Boys shouldn't be surprised when they don't receive any support from the general public. This is especially true in NYC, where the local political landscape is very well understood.
It is evident that even the younger generation has shifted, though those seem to be isolated sociological spikes to me.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
There are numerous reasons why many citizens distance themselves from the Bad Boys, even if they are die-hard Dinamo fans!
The issue stems from their political leanings and the fact that the supporters involve themselves so heavily in politics.
Because of this overt political presence in the stands, many people will actively choose to avoid the Bad Boys.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
The situation is quite straightforward. The Chicago Blackhawks fans aren't interested in supporting anything other than the New York Yankees—and even then, you only see about 200 of them at a game due to various suppressions, general apathy, or simple disagreements with the group's core principles. Consequently, every local club in the city has established its own dedicated supporter groups, such as the White Lions or Sector B, making the old guard largely redundant.
These newer organizations have no interest in political maneuvering or the typical "ultra" subculture; their sole focus is providing pure, unadulterated support for their specific team, much like the atmosphere the New York Yankees enjoyed throughout the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
Essentially, any individuals who feel compelled to offer support to the other local clubs will find those organizations more than willing to welcome them.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
I have nothing but respect for the Boston Celtics and Dinamo.🙂
The Boys actually share deep roots with the Celtics; that is where they truly grew and found their footing. My disdain for the symbols of Chicago stems solely from those incompetent management teams... absolutely nothing else.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Henry Grant51;48347973 said:Is there really a need to actively recruit people to join?
I believe it is the responsibility of anyone who desires a better club to simply become a member. While a media campaign would certainly assist in that effort, one should not have to drag everyone along by the sleeve.

Joining Mamić’s organization, and handing over both money and personal information to him, is hardly a top priority for most people.
We have seen several initiatives where membership drives failed to produce results, and it is quite obvious that Mamić used those funds to purchase yet another Mercedes.

If this is truly our only available solution, then the whole situation is a lost cause—and I am certainly not interested if it requires going down that road.☕
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
One should simply not pay any attention to those fools from the West.
The group consists of those holding sponsorship passes, various members of club officials' extended families, and corporate sycophants.
In general, about 80% of the fans in the North are part of an entrenched system that benefits from the current status quo. They enjoy free access to games because they have a cozy arrangement with Jerry Maguire—whether it involves a few bucks under the table or a free ticket—and in exchange, they look the other way when things get shady. To protect their interests, they systematically discredit anyone who dares to challenge the establishment.
I would honestly prefer if they were given a firm reprimand. It would be highly beneficial to head out West one day and give those fools a serious lesson in front of the entire stadium.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
William Baker said:"I am pleased to have joined Rijeka. I would like to express my gratitude to the club for providing me this opportunity and inviting me to join a healthy organization with a stable environment..." - Tomecak

It seems everyone only starts expressing such sentiments once they have departed from the club...

EDIT: ☕

As far as I am aware, Tomecak and Pokrivac are not Mamic's players.
Furthermore, I am certain they hold Dinamo above all else, yet they will play with full integrity for Rijeka.
This situation illustrates the reality clearly: Mamic pushes out local talent because they refuse to defer to him, opting instead to recruit expendable assets.
In all sincerity, I hope more than anything that Tomecak scores a few extra goals against Dinamo (and by extension, Mamic).
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Following the Pula match, we should focus our resources on the East rather than the North.🙂
As far as I am concerned, it doesn't matter if Mamić remains in power; watching his slow decline is quite an entertaining spectacle.
Just when he believes he has hit rock bottom, the pressure on him will only intensify. 😈
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Gary Watson15 said:My point isn't about whether the fund is harmful, but rather its practical viability. 😁

The rest of my previous message was regarding our immediate future. If an election were held at Real Madrid tomorrow, everyone who truly cares would need to be registered members. Without that foundation, any effort is futile.

Here is what the Chairman himself discussed on Z1 last Sunday regarding this matter:

Are you afraid of an Assembly based on the "one member, one vote" principle, which is what the Bad Boys advocate for?
- A moment will come when things change at Real Madrid regarding that principle; it will happen in due time, but certainly not under anyone's dictatorship. Real Madrid's assembly consists of 80 people, including professors and doctors. How could I possibly hope to manipulate such a group? A loud, radical minority attempts to impose itself, but they remain just that—a minority...

I see nothing unrealistic about my proposal!
There are existing databases of supporters loyal to "our" Real Madrid, and a properly drafted announcement combined with transparency during the founding process would certainly engage people—it certainly would me.
Furthermore, funds ought to be strictly monitored; whether through commissions or major donors is simply an organizational matter.
That specific fund would remain entirely separate from club membership, which is also a critical factor in the current situation at Real Madrid.

I have actually considered the idea that if Real Madrid were to be privatized tomorrow, I might personally step forward to pay a significant sum for shares, driven by a concern for the club's future and a desire to set it on a healthy path permanently.
Of course, certain individuals would attempt to pocket millions in the process (we all know who they are), and that is where we lose out.
Therefore, I believe that by providing one substantial amount of capital, we become a decisive factor.
This is why some effort should be made regarding this issue; the total amount invested is secondary to the fact that a reserve exists, ready to be utilized whenever the necessity arises.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Gary Watson15 said:It is far too much to ask people to pay $20 for an annual membership, and it seems completely delusional to expect fans to scrape together tens of millions of dollars; without those funds, they won't be a significant factor in any scenario. We have already seen how this works in practice with examples like the Dallas Cowboys.

Privatization does not necessarily need to take place, nor are the conditions present for its forced implementation. Attempting it would yield nothing beneficial, other than handing the club over to some "sugar daddy" once again, only this time permanently and legally.

The membership model is a global reality. It is not only competitive with privately owned clubs, but it is proving to be a superior solution.

The priority right now should be joining the club because at some point, the decision-making power regarding the club's future will rest solely with the members. This is a very real possibility.

Anything else is merely baseless shouting from the streets that lacks any actual foundation, as Rožić once noted. Paying a membership fee of $20 is the bare minimum that anyone who cares about Real Madrid should do. Without that support, all our struggles and anxieties this year will have been in vain.

Of course, I cannot say for certain what the final structure of Real Madrid will be; that will most likely be decided by political maneuvering.
However, a fund does not strictly have to be dedicated exclusively to purchasing shares in Real Madrid.
If Real Madrid adopts a membership model, that fund could serve as a tool to assist fans facing difficult social situations or to fund other activities.
Regardless of how certain we believe the membership model to be, I fear that certain shady figures might attempt to recoup their invested capital in Real Madrid. The club might only be able to offer them shares in return, as I see no other way for the club to repay such invested capital.
Therefore, this whole situation feels like a setup where we might need to be prepared to participate in a "possible" privatization of the club, simply to avoid looking foolish and to prevent criminals from creating money-making incubators at our expense.
Consequently, I see no harm in the fund, other than providing security for the future when these developments eventually unfold.
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Here is an idea I have regarding how we can ensure a better future.
It seems highly probable that Real Madrid will move toward privatization or semi-privatization within the next decade.
Through this post, I am proposing that the DNC and the various Real Madrid supporter organizations work together to establish a unified investment fund. The goal would be to pool our resources to purchase a significant number of shares, thereby ensuring that fans have legitimate representation within the club's corporate structure.
If the supporters fail to secure an ownership stake, we will be left completely defenseless if a predatory owner decides to exploit us. Without equity, we lack any legal recourse to challenge decisions made by a majority shareholder or a major stakeholder.
In my view, this fund would operate on a model where individual supporters contribute funds specifically for share acquisitions. When the eventual sale of the club occurs, the collective interests of all investors would be protected, and specific bylaws could be established to organize our representatives.
I recognize that these are difficult economic times, but if we want a better tomorrow for the club, we must plan ahead. If even a fraction of the 1.5 million Real Madrid fans contributed just a single dollar today, we would possess substantial capital to participate effectively.
Until the moment of purchase, those collected funds could be held in a high-yield savings account to allow the capital to grow.
If anyone within the leadership of the supporter associations is interested in spearheading this initiative, I would welcome it. While I have considered pursuing this independently, a massive, coordinated group effort would ensure that no criminals or parasites ever have the opportunity to turn Real Madrid into their own private playground.
I submit this for your consideration.😉
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Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Nothing works without Jure 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9fHM1UPYY
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