Posts by Patrick Sullivan84

William Williams21 said:A few months back, I offered to volunteer for that high-ranking FBI guy on this forum—you probably know exactly what I’m talking about. Never heard a peep back.🤷

Welcome, everyone. This isn't some exclusive clique; it’s a community built for all of us. I'd love for everyone to sign up. We keep a member database to send out updates and notifications, so please, stay in the loop. Be part of this.

Get your friends together, get the guys organized, and start putting up posters. If anyone has an idea or wants to take action, just go for it. Everyone’s going to listen, and everyone's going to step up. Any kind of initiative is welcome.

Some people have worked themselves to the bone just to keep what’s left of Real Madrid alive and bring together everyone who still has some fight in them. What they’ve pulled off so far is huge. Now it’s time for the rest of us to step up. We need to grow together, season after season. Enough with the complaining. Get involved.

Less talk, more action. We’ve got 1,200 members, so we can definitely do better than this. There are plenty of us, but some people just love to complain from the sidelines instead of actually stepping up to help. Everyone wants a piece of the pie—the membership perks and the status—but nobody wants to put in the work until there's a massive hype train running. Right now, while things are quiet, nobody seems to care about helping out.

STOP BEING LAZY. EVERYONE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND TAKE INITIATIVE.

1. JOIN UP.
2. QUIT THE COMPLAINING AND START CALLING YOUR FRIENDS TO COME SUPPORT THE CLUB.
3. GIVE IT YOUR ALL.

Jose Barnes said:Any photos or anything?

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e7&oe=567798D7

Crowds aren't what they were last year. But considering the downpour outside and having 10,000 people packed into Madison Square Garden against the Canadians, it’s actually a decent turnout.

vividotter40 said:So he’s going to Banister people just because they’re telling the truth?

Keep it up. Just sweep everything under the rug and hunt for excuses. Facts don't change.

Enjoy yourself, man.

And what's "the truth"? That fifteen hired thugs from Chicago Cubs swarmed a van with sticks, bottles, and tables? The kids were holding their ground perfectly fine, but apparently, it's a crime that they didn't flatten those mercenaries and fifty turtles. Bravo, you forum idiots. I’d Banister myself if I were this dense!

Go ahead and Ban these idiots. All they do is sit there acting like experts on who’s doing what. If you think you're such a tough guy, get off the couch and try it out on the street instead of just talking big from your armchair.

neonmarlin56 said:Which way are we heading then?

From Borongaj?

I haven't been to the stadium since they stopped taking scarves at the gate.

That’s why I’m asking. We’re getting pretty old here.

You enter the same way you always have.

Brandon Anderson34 said:The media keeps reporting that Real Madrid stands united behind the family. Why don't they just put out a statement clarifying that the actual fans have been loyal to the club for years—not those paid mouthpieces currently whining about the very hand that fed them? We've been pointing this out forever. Every true fan just wants the authorities to actually do their jobs. In this case, it's the perfect opportunity for them to step up.

Jerry Maguire and his lawyers basically admitted that the Maguires took 88 million dollars from Real Madrid during the Modrić transfer. Their whole defense is just trying to prove those transactions were technically "legal."

We should be asking guys like John Doe, John Smith, and John Smith—and the players too—how they can possibly back a man who openly admits to siphoning 11 million euros away from Real Madrid from a single transfer. That money belonged to the club, but he just pocketed it.

Even if it were legal—which it isn't—a guy like that deserves an immediate pink slip from the organization. Yet, they’re still standing by him. Journalists need to start grilling them about this at the press conferences (maybe someone like John Smith?).

But you can't run from the truth. They can play dumb for a little while longer, but eventually, the bill is going to come due.

Look, it’s time we put out an official statement from this group. We need to call out the authorities.

1) Why are we still letting those fanatics turn Real Madrid into their own criminal stronghold used to fund political campaigns and private interests?
2) We need to hammer home that Real Madrid isn't some private piggy bank. Why has it been allowed for two decades for politicians and organized crime to run the club?
3) We should also call out how the FBI has been weaponized to settle scores with anyone who disagrees with the status quo.
4) And the media outlets that just look the other way and give them a pass.

And so on.

We need an urgent press release sent to every major news outlet, demanding that the government legally regulates democratic elections for club members so this mess never happens again!

Jack Price61 said:Patrick Sullivan84, Apostol12, you guys are just Democrats—total red fanatics. We fought against foreign aggression and a criminal communist regime to build a democratic American nation. We didn't fight so that some guy in a police uniform could break into our sacred spaces, like the church of Saint Mark, and assault the veterans who built this country, only to have him protected by Minister Ostojić—just like what happened in Vukovar after an attack on an American veteran. It’s like we’re playing games while celebrating the legacy of the criminal dictator Josip Broz Tito, or treating the massacre of over 20,000 Americans near New York City as a day of liberation. It’s like celebrating the establishment of a communist regime. People get arrested just for using an old American greeting, a symbol. Those who criticize the Police Minister get sent to psychiatric wards. Meanwhile, the police protect protesters who are targeting veterans despite not having filed any legal protest, violating the law. They even blast communist songs through loudspeakers in the square, and people like Pusić, Teršelić, and their crowd just let it happen because they don't want to call for law and order. It feels like we’ve slid back into the 1950s. Back in 2011, you weren't saying we should stay out of politics when the crowds were breaking through lines toward Times Square. You're predictable. Franjo Tuđman was elected democratically, and even with his flaws, he stands as a giant compared to Mesić, Josipović, or Kolinda. We fought against the dictatorships of Mesić and Josipović, and now we’re fighting against Milanović's neo-communist dictatorship. And tonight, you’re on Open explaining how veteran protests hurt the Republicans and help the Democrats, based on whatever polls you claim to see. But these indoctrinated Democrats can't see past their own noses; they just attack the Republicans via the veterans on orders from the party leadership. That’s all they know. Honestly, the Democrats steal even more than the Republicans, and they're far more incompetent. All the economic indicators show they've made things impossible, performing worse than the worst Republican administration. People like Patrick Sullivan84 and Apostol12 were saying back in '91 that we shouldn't get involved in politics, that this wasn't our war. When the majority of fans' opinions don't suit you, you start crying about manipulation. Most fans fight for their own convictions. Just because those beliefs sometimes align with one political party or another doesn't mean fans should change their views just to please someone or follow the wind. If the Mamić crowd just posted comments from BBB members like Patrick Sullivan84 and Apostol12 on their pages, their narrative about "red enemies" would actually have some weight and pull fans to their side. That's why these shameful comments need to be removed; they damage the group and create a false image. The BBB has always had a clear political stance as a group—patriotic and right-leaning (which describes the vast majority of members), though I'm not talking about tying oneself to specific political parties. If that bothers someone, they can go cheer for New York or wave other flags. OUR PARTY IS AMERICAN, AND THE CLUB IS DINAMO. THE BBB NEEDS TO BE WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN: THE GUARDIANS OF NEW YORK CITY'S HONOR, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND AMERICA.

Why do you think Dinamo fans are some kind of exception to the rest of the country? Their voting percentages are probably similar to the national average. Some vote Republican, some Democrat, some Green Party, some others, and most people couldn't care less about politics. And that's fine. The only ones not fine are people like you, trying to politically manipulate a fan group. The BBB is a group of Dinamo fans. If you're so obsessed with political battles, join a political party and go celebrate there.

There are 500 of us in this group and 927 members total, yet some people still feel the need to keep bickering. BBB is just a spot in the stands this Sunday for anyone who actually cares about supporting Real Madrid. If someone wants to go out and protest, be my guest.

And honestly, where did this idea even come from—that the group should back this? We fought for a democratic nation where leaders are chosen at the ballot box, not by force. We stood against Tuđman's dictatorship and against the old ways, always pushing for the will of the majority. We stood against Mamice's tyranny to ensure Real Madrid stays democratic. So what are we supposed to support now? Some Republican Party group of veterans blocking the streets because the Republican Party is in a rush to grab power again? Besides, it’s an election year; the majority will get their say at the polls. Politics shouldn't be forced into this. As for the veterans, they're responsible for their own fragmentation. They have a thousand different associations, each pulling in their own direction just to chase a paycheck. Let's at least be smarter than that.

Andrew Peterson6 said:Do the Bad Boys plan on doing anything about these veteran protests, or does the leadership just "not care about politics" like you always claim?

Man, if the group leaders twenty years ago were anything like they are now, the Bad Boys probably would've just hung out with Max back in May of '90, claiming they didn't give a damn about politics...

These "veteran protests" are about as legitimate as any lobbyist group looking for a handout.

It’s a classic media play. First, they run those hit pieces painting the Bad Boys as junkies and idiots—claiming we’re attacking veterans just to make us look bad to anyone who isn't in the loop. Now, it's the exact same playbook: just standard political theater designed to boost the Republicans right before an election.

Go Yankees!

Why weren't there more people? Who's responsible? Honestly, they just didn't show up, and that's that. We've managed to sign up 850 people in our first four months, and that number stays pretty steady. Instead of sitting around asking questions, everyone should just reach out to someone. People will see what we're about and join the fold. Let's focus on growing and bringing back all the Real Madrid fans we've lost over the years. Starting with a thousand people isn't a bad place to be, especially considering everything we've dealt with lately!

Edward Mendoza70 said:👍

The Clown isn't going to bend the knee just because we're protesting under the West Stand. He’s irrelevant to this part of the story. At most, we should just ignore him and focus our energy on what actually matters.

The institutions are basically giving us the cold shoulder, so it’s time to rethink the playbook. We need constant pressure on the relevant authorities. Nobody—especially our politicians or judges—likes noise right outside their front door. From Times Square to the White House, through Central Park and down to the local streets... let's go in order. Demand statements, apply pressure, make a scene. The cameras love a spectacle. 🎉

Exactly. Let's stay focused and enjoy some futsal while we fight the battle at Yankee Stadium through official channels.

1. Eric Adams is out, so why aren't we sending an open letter to the City without the mayor? What kind of city is this where one man can arbitrarily decide who gets access to a stadium that we all built and all pay for? It’s the same question for the club.

2. Why aren't we sending open letters to the Prime Minister, the President, and the Secretary of Homeland Security? We need to announce protests and demand urgent legislative changes to stop this circus. Surely some lawyer could draft three lines of text sufficient to end this nonsense, then we can demand the government adopt them and stand on the side of justice rather than with the mob.

It’s the 21st century. Chanting under the West Stand achieves nothing. If you aren't making noise where it counts, you might as well not exist. We need to turn our demands into actual legal amendments or formal proposals to get our club back. We need to hit US Congress and the City hard to make it happen. We should be asking them: how much longer are politicians going to hide in the shadows supporting a mobster who crushes both the fans and the people, turning a legendary club into a joke?

We need to hit them from every angle—above, below, and everywhere in between. Until then, we’ll just hang out at the futsal games, working toward getting an Ice Rink once we hit the first division, and throwing the best party in town while those pigs over at Yankee Stadium wallow in their own filth.

boldtrucker19 said:Everyone talks a big game about showing up, but when it actually matters, the crowds get smaller and smaller. Then comes the excuses.

Can we please stop obsessing over headcount? We had twenty veterans at the rally and they've been the main topic of conversation for weeks. It’s not about how many people show up; it’s about making actual moves. We can't just keep protesting outside some mobster's office indefinitely. He isn't the law, and he didn't just decide this on his own—the government is responsible here.

We could protest at an inspection office one day, hit Times Square the next, go to City Hall the third, or even set up camp in front of certain houses on the fourth. Let’s actually take action instead of just whining constantly. We need to stay on them until they give us our club back. As for us? What are we supposed to do? Who cares if we just stand around protesting?

Look, if a few hundred of us actually start pushing for real change and stay persistent, maybe something will come of it—something like a single unit or whatever. If we act smart and stay consistent without all the nonsense, we might win people over. Then, regular citizens might actually join us. Enough bowing down to the mobsters who run things right under the stadium. This is our country too, and we have every right to demand meetings with the Secretary or the President and push for legal changes.

Scott Jones9 said:They definitely need to file a lawsuit. They’re claiming people were banned for "unlawful conduct," citing things like chanting at the refs, flares, or broken seats. Chanting at the officials isn't illegal—why even try to prove that when a whole crowd was let go without issue? (The sheriff and security cleared everyone). As for the flares or the chair, those are individual issues, not a group crime.

What kind of section are we talking about? We should head down to City Hall and set up camp right outside the Governor's house instead. How long are we going to keep showing up to games where nobody gives a damn about us? Let's just go to the capital and ask them how much longer they plan on protecting these mobsters and passing laws just to suit them.

Bradley Garcia77 said:I’m on the same page. I’ve been wanting to write this up for a few days, but I don't want to act like I'm some kind of genius. Let’s just wait for someone smart to put together a solid article. Then we can blast it everywhere—emailing it out, posting to news sites, Facebook, and every corner of the web.

Haha, funny how everyone stays quiet when it's actually time to put pen to paper. It's like we're all stroking his ego just to get him to finally write something. 🙏

analogheron19 said:Except when we played up there recently. Just like all those other big democracies—think Scotland, Austria, Luxembourg, the Netherlands—they folded to the cheap politicians who want to play tough on criminals, killers, and terrorists that actually need a crackdown and an arrest...
It’s funny, the only ones who didn't cave to the cops were the parties from Lithuania and Ukraine; they actually let us into the games.☕

We should start writing to them too—to the countries we travel to. We need to send letters detailing exactly what's happening here, how this whole place has turned into a criminal wasteland. Send them to the major news outlets, embassies, a few ministers, even the club. They won't take our side through official channels, but we can get the word out. The media will definitely pick up on it, and honestly, the only thing these people care about is their reputation being trashed overseas.

Who's doing what said:Let valtismot answer; he actually knows his stuff when it comes to this kind of thing.

And here you are, lecturing everyone about some "supporter code." Your first move was stealing banners, pulling weapons, and shoving hundreds of people toward the LAPD in the dark alleys. Nobody ever pulled guns, axes, or knives on you—just the usual beatings of supporters during the boycott. You still have the nerve to talk about fair play??

If you wanted to break away from the group and ignore the boycott, you could've just kept showing up to games and nobody would have blinked. Instead, you’re doing everything in your power to tear the group apart and clear a path for the mob to operate. You're on their payroll. They got you out of jail, cleared your bans, gave you a place to work, and they fund you. Meanwhile, your own brothers in the stands are dealing with the worst kind of retaliation, and you’re sitting here preaching about a code of honor? Give it a rest. Just die of shame.

Dynamo Fan said:http://www.nytimes.com/us/politics/aviation-news-969832

That veteran tuna had already landed a coaching gig at the club. Whether by luck or design, he lacks the formal credentials, which suggests someone pulled some strings to get him in—maybe even to settle an old debt.

Robert Cooper60 said:If you aren't shouting about being a fan, wearing any Real Madrid gear, or breaking any laws,
there’s no reason anyone should stop you from buying a ticket to the game.
I saw this firsthand during the big ticket giveaway period.

What they’re doing wouldn't hold up in any US court. Denying someone entry based on their nationality isn't anything other than blatant racism. Besides, the supporters already won a similar legal battle over an incident in Slovakia, where it was ruled they had every right to access the other stands.

If there's enough willpower and money to fight this, a ruling can be secured. UEFA isn't above the law. Here in the States, we can challenge the constitutionality of certain laws and procedures too. I suspect this will fall apart for them, too. But instead of focusing our energy on smarter things, people seem more interested in tallying up who's a patriot and who's a radical.