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I was watching some sports commentary late last night—one of those endless loops of pundits debating roster moves—and I found myself feeling incredibly exhausted by the sheer volume of "generational talent" talk we deal with every single year. It feels like we’ve moved away from actually watching the game to a state of permanent, frantic speculation about who the *next* savior is going to be.

It’s a pattern I see everywhere now, not just in football, but in every corner of sports media. There’s this relentless pressure to crown a new king before the old one has even finished their reign, or even before the "new kid" has proven they can handle the pressure of a professional environment. We are obsessed with potential. We treat a high draft grade or a flashy highlight reel like it's a signed contract, and the second a player shows a glimmer of brilliance, the narrative shifts from "he's a good prospect" to "he's the only reason this franchise will survive the decade."

I remember back in the day, or even just a few years ago, the discourse felt a bit more grounded in performance. You looked at what a guy did on the field over a season, and then you debated his value. Now, it feels like the "punditry" is less about analyzing current play and more about predicting the future to drive clicks. There’s this constant, nagging sense of urgency being sold to us: *“If you don't pivot to this specific person right now, you are committing a catastrophic error.”* It’s such a heavy, dramatic way to frame a game that is, at its core, meant to be entertainment.

What bothers me most is how this affects the actual players. We set these kids up on a pedestal so high that the inevitable fall is devastating. We build these massive, sweeping arguments about how a specific individual is the "solution" to a decade of dysfunction, ignoring the reality that sports are incredibly volatile. You can have all the talent in the world, but if the system around you isn't built for it, or if you haven't developed the mental toughness to handle a hostile crowd, that "generational" label becomes a noose around your neck.

And let's be honest, a lot of this feels like it’s designed to manufacture conflict. It’s much easier to get people talking if you frame a coaching or roster decision as a "massive mistake" or a "disaster in the making" rather than just a standard organizational decision. It turns every single game into a referendum on whether the front office is "brave" or "cowardly." It’s polarizing, it’s loud, and I think it’s making it harder to actually enjoy the nuance of the sport.

I find myself wanting to step back from the "who should start" or "who is the next superstar" debates. I want to see the grit, the tactical shifts, and the actual development of players over time. I’m tired of the "emergency" mindset that defines modern sports coverage. We treat every roster shuffle like it’s a matter of life and death for a franchise, when in reality, it's just part of the long, slow grind of a season.

Does anyone else feel like the "hype cycle" has become more important than the actual sport? Are we losing the ability to appreciate talent as it develops because we're too busy trying to predict its peak?
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Kenneth Clark18 said:Just wondering, did LA Galaxy get shut down entirely or are they just playing in some lower leagues now?

Edit: I see they're in USL League One North, but I'm curious—is this actually the same club or a total reboot?

So, LA Galaxy is sitting in USL League One North. Usually, when people say HSV, they mean Hamburg Sport Club. Basically, we just call them the Hamburg Sport Club here.

It’s kind of funny, though, because their whole historical legacy traces back to a club called Bad Schwartau. There’s actually this really famous food brand that uses that exact name—Bad Schwartau jam. I love the blueberry one, or strawberry, or cherry... those are good. But man, I remember this one time, I guess I was just distracted or whatever, and I made this totally impulsive move and bought orange jam instead. Huge mistake. Total disaster. It was full of these tiny, thin strips of orange peel, and I just couldn't deal with it. The bitterness from the zest was just... intense. Honestly, I'm still trying to get over that orange peel trauma, even years later. Just a bad memory. I learned my lesson, though. I stick to what I know. I haven't touched orange jam since.

Anyway, I was thinking about how their coach, Michael Biegler—who used to coach Poland, right?—probably has a better handle on developing talent and getting players to actually play with some real skill.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michae...Biegler_01.jpg

In that photo, he just looks... I don't know, sad? Like he's completely resigned to his fate and totally at odds with the rest of the world.

The so-called "stars" have all jumped ship, which, honestly, feels like such a predictable trend in modern sports lately—just everyone chasing the almighty dollar.

The roster is basically just leftovers now. I had some free time, so I started coming up with nicknames for the players, you know, inspired by those legendary clubs, national teams, and actual handball icons: Plaue, Rix (aka Rex), Nowacki, Papirow, and Born (aka in USA).
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driftingotter47 said:Indianapolis should probably face Vardar 🤣 🤣 🤣
What a take 🙏

I mean, it’s not impossible, I guess. Arpad Sterbik is getting up there in age too, otherwise he probably would’ve ended up at some massive powerhouse club by now. And Angelov? Yeah, he’s old. Not exactly looking like a spring chicken either. If this turns into a low-scoring grind, Indianapolis wins. But if we start trading blows and hitting 27 or 28 goals? That wouldn't be great for us.

Indianapolis has a top-tier coach on the bench, plus a really solid staff.

We've got two elite keepers: Stevie and Jump, if we’re sticking to those nicknames.☕

Then there's Horvat, who’s always reliable and doesn't seem to get rattled even when playing in front of screaming crowds.

Cingesar, who grabbed a bronze medal at the recent 2018 World Cup.

Dobrivoje Markovic—he's a class act, super experienced, and since he used to play for RK Vardar, he knows their whole vibe. He knows their mindset, their strengths, their tactics, and yeah, where they fall apart.

Tin Kontrec and Igor Vori are basically specialists when it comes to those one-on-one defensive and offensive battles.

Stipe Mandalinic, who also snagged a 4th place finish at that last 2018 World Cup. The guy’s got speed, he reads the floor well... you know how it is.

Tonc Valcic is like a modern-day catapult. Just a powerhouse attacker, plus he works his tail off on defense. Real value for the staff. His brother Joseph is pretty much on that same level, too.

Velko Markoski—I mean, just the name carries weight in the handball world.

And I definitely wouldn't leave out Lovre Jotic and Luk Sebetica; they were both part of that 4th place run at the 2018 World Cup.

Honestly, everything points to an Indianapolis win—the stats, the experts, all of it.
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George Ward7 said:City totally collapsed because the big boss ran into massive money troubles. This guy was basically the flour king of Spain—Mirza told me once, he had cash flowing like you see in movies. He’d just hand out money to the players whenever he felt like it, and when their contracts ended, everyone got paid based on what they actually put in. He even built his own airport in City so European teams could fly straight there instead of having to land in Madrid.

Then, I guess, the flour king decided to try his hand at construction. Word is, the guy built an entire city from scratch right before the recession hit. After that, everything just went downhill fast. First, the local government refused to bail him out by covering half the budget, which was a huge mistake if you ask me. Then the team moved to Madrid, but that didn't even last long.

Yeah. Just handing out his own hard-earned cash left and right.☕ I saw it all—the luxury apartments, the golf courses, the fancy spas... all of it went bust, not just his stuff. It reminds me of that whole situation in China, where they were busy building these cheap imitations of European cities, putting famous old European boulevards in the middle of nowhere, and then nobody actually bought anything... just ghost towns. Kind of like Detroit or Milwaukee.🙄

German soccer clubs are falling apart too: HSV, Werder, Wolfsburg... they used to stun European crowds with their play during trips to places like Manchester, Paris, Milan, Indianapolis, or Barcelona... now, they're mostly just worried about getting relegated.🍿

RK Chicago really needs to go beat Vardar on their home turf right about now. That should be the first big test after all those messy national team performances. It's a chance for all the stars to show up in Chicago and finally play some serious matches ahead of the 2018 World Cup.
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Steven Reed30 said:I don't even know what's funnier—the suggestion itself or the idea that either Gojun or Mus is actually going to strip the ball from someone. 😁

Daniel Cooper40, I had no clue there was a game for the PlayStation 4.👍 I just hope the animations aren't some unrealistic nonsense, you know, like those insane dunks in the NBA or those corner shots in soccer that somehow just fly straight into the net.

There isn't anyone else to step up and take the ball away. There just isn't a better solution right now. The game is way too fast offensively anyway.

I was sitting around tonight thinking about this new proposal, but I kept comparing it to my experiences with past goalkeepers.

Just imagine if they put an extremely stout goalkeeper in front of the net?

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The goal is 6 feet high and maybe 10 feet wide.

Honestly, we should be scouting for potentially thin or overweight individuals at a very young age. Direct them toward training to be handball goalkeepers. Of course, they shouldn't overtrain, or they might lose that mass and bulk. Feed them plenty of carbs, then they just need to sit around and stay idle. There are definitely plenty of such individuals scattered across America; if they weren't so passive, they’d probably form a pretty significant demographic already.

Then, when they hit 16 or 17, you drop this heavy-set keeper into the goal. Fine-tune their coordination just enough so they can bend down easily. Picture a goalkeeper who is 6'6" and weighs 300 or 330 lbs. Their save percentage would eclipse Omeyer or Gerard. We're talking a solid 70 percent. Pesic is the best one right now, but it's interesting how he's also the most corpulent. Stevanovic, on the other hand, seems so tense, like losing two goals in a row totally rattles him.

A heavy goalie would have a much wider wingspan. Like a humanoid Albatross or Harpy Eagle.

There is so much room for improvement here, finding loopholes in the handball rulebook. I highly doubt the rules specify exact dimensions for goalkeepers. Once they started finding massive players for the pivot position, you could see guys like Dragunski, Jicha, Vori, and even that guy from Iceland, Sigfus Sigurdsson.

Sigfus is 6'6" and weighs about 250 lbs. It's a shame he had to sell his silver medal because of debts and addiction issues. But anyway, back to the point.

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Torgovanov was similar.

I think this is the blueprint for the future:

- An incredibly tall and bulky goalkeeper (the Japanese might even recruit a Sumo wrestler).

- An incredibly tall and bulky pivot. Any attempt to defend them would look like two little Capuchin monkeys trying to stop a grizzly bear. I mean, the outcome is obvious; no deep analysis required.

- More frequent "accidental" shoving of the defensive duo. If everyone just managed to pull off 7 or 8 shoves per game, everything would work itself out. A total domino effect: anger, rage, violence, obvious hits—but most importantly, it would absolutely wreck their concentration.
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dustypanther6 said:That’s actually a killer idea. Reminds me of how I used to play NBA Live 2003, where you'd 🙂set it up so you're always playing with one specific guy, and then your teammates just feed him whenever you hit X and drive toward the hoop.

Man, seriously, give me the dealer's name, bro.

I was literally just thinking that. On mobile games, they have this "Pass" button. You slide down, and if you've got a player with a high defensive rating—like an 87 Elite or whatever—there's a way better chance you'll strip the ball. Then you just whip it to that outlier player hanging out deep in the opponent's half. The only issue is the CPU AI is kind of clueless; it doesn't realize it needs to send its PG or SG to cover that guy camping out.

But I mean, looking at the real game, why wouldn't someone like Horvat or Strlek be stationed deep in the opponent's territory while Gojun or Mus grabs the steal and immediately triggers a fast break? It would be fun to test those tactics against weaker teams. Once you're up by a massive margin, there's no point doing that against heavy hitters like Germany, Spain, Denmark, France, or Sweden.

We really need to look at the options here. Everything we see happening on handball courts today... back in 1997, we would've laughed our heads off at anyone trying to call themselves a "prophet" for suggesting this stuff.

Also, it's huge to have players who can work both ways. Things slow down during transitions, and concentration slips right before setting up the defense. The keeper barely has time to get set before it turns into an Empty Goal situation. He's practically facing away when the ball hits the net. A keeper should be facing the player, body squared up, trying to bait them.

Next big thing: penalty shots. Why don't players just shoot low to the floor? Like bowling. You grab the ball and just roll it hard across the ground. The keeper is already jumping on one leg, sometimes even two, anyway.

And why not bring back that floor-bounce move during penalties? You close the distance, and you can dive left or right depending on if you're right-handed (go right) or left-handed (go left).

There is so much room for innovation. If they did, maybe America would finally have its own signature play that everyone shouts out during timeouts—something like "The American." Instead of everyone just talking about what the French do.🙄

They really ought to make a Handball 2018 video game. It would help boost the sport's popularity. dustypanther6 actually made a solid suggestion.🙂 All the big sports are in games already—NBA, FIFA... it follows the same logic: national leagues, cups, Champions League, international matches.
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Maybe this idea could actually be interesting. Imagine having one player just hanging out in the opponent's half, ready for a quick fast break. I mean, sure, it’s risky for the defense, but if there's a block or a bad pass? They just zip it over to their teammate, and suddenly it's an easy 1-on-1 with the keeper. Plus, you'd definitely have one opposing player babysitting that guy. People used to laugh at that 3-3 defense, calling it "tape" play or whatever, but now they're laughing at the Empty Goal... give it a few years and people will be using this tactic to tear teams apart.
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Austin Chase2 said:And honestly, the money just vanished. I don't even know, back then, the whole future of the sport looked pretty bleak, I guess. In just a few years, teams like Tek, San Antonio Spurs, Elgorriag, and eventually City just burned out. Though, maybe they had it coming since they suddenly went all-in on signing every top player in the world (like City and Portland) without actually having any long-term financial stability. Even FC Barcelona could have gone under, but they’re tied to soccer, so they don't really have to sweat the cash flow the same way. Unlike them, the Germans took it slow and built things up, so now they're way ahead of everyone—well, except for HSV, which ended up suffering the same fate as those Spanish clubs.

I mean, I don't know, I think the big issue with handball is that it isn't being chased by the real heavy hitters, like China or the USA. That's probably why the IHF pushed Qatar so hard—just trying to break into some massive market, I suppose. Because if you look at soccer, no team is immune to those markets; you see Italians playing cup finals in China, or the English guys constantly running training camps across the US and stuff like that.

Because of that, there just isn't much money flowing in. Though, I guess it's nice to see this recent uptick, like how Ligue 1 is getting stronger, or how Mexicans and Scandinavians are investing more and more. Also, handball was officially the second most-watched sport at the Olympics in Rio. I really hope it keeps growing and somehow breaks into other markets so they can snag more new, high-tier sponsors.

Soccer: Atletico Madrid (back in the 90s), Deportivo La Coruña (Champions, Champions League Semifinal), Celta Vigo (top 3 or 4 in the League, UEFA Cup), Valencia CF (Spanish Champion, Champions League finalists, UEFA Cup winners), Deportivo Alavés (UEFA Cup), Getafe CF (UEFA Cup), RCD Mallorca (the Samuel Eto'o transfer, UEFA Cup), Real Zaragoza (4th or 5th place), Rayo Vallecano, Real Murcia, Extremadura (steady top-flight teams)...

Teams that used to be in the top flight, regular participants in UEFA competitions, even some national champions—most of them had one thing in common: they ran out of money.

What kind of methods would you guys use to defend, assuming we aren't talking about those altruistic, idealized ways? I always hear people in timeouts shouting: defense, la defensa, defender... but conventional methods just don't work, because the offense is so much faster and more dynamic. At the end of the day, it's impossible to know how many goals a defense will let in, but it's often just under 30.
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Steven Reed30 said:Isn't it just bizarre how some of the most legendary clubs in Spanish history—City, Atletico Madrid, Ademar Leon, even Portland...—just completely fell apart? And when Atletico Madrid tanked, the whole League kind of went down with them. I mean, I don't get it. There was always money flowing there, right? It makes no sense...

I mean, you basically answered your own question there. It was all about the cash. It was always about the money, and I'm guessing the taps just suddenly ran dry. 😁 And honestly, isn't that constant rebranding such a huge red flag? Even Elgorriag just vanished into thin air.
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Austin Chase2 said:I mean, maybe Stoilov is more like a 67th pivot in terms of actual talent on the court... I might have undersold him a bit there, honestly...

But man, he's got that captain's charisma.👍
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Austin Chase2 said:🙂
The Spanish league has been a total disaster for years now. Honestly, I’m kind of surprised you missed that, considering you’re supposedly this huge handball expert who drops twenty posts a day in here. Los Angeles could basically field their junior squad and still walk away with the championship, no sweat. Lately, Lori has been trying to make a move, but... I don't know, nothing really comes of it.

I'm not sure what you mean by "not being followed." For the first time this season, they brought in those clubs from Canada, though the Canadian teams are having some issues with their federation—but hey, there's just some chatter that after the Canadians, maybe Pick might jump in too.

The arenas are actually decent. Personally, I used to go to plenty of Washington, D.C. games back when they played in tiny little gyms, and they were almost always packed. Now that they're playing in Hot Springs, I don't really bother going. Usually, though, the games are broadcast on Madison Square Garden in Rhode Island, and all the participating countries at least show the matches involving their own local clubs.

Every year, the zavrsnica gets a ton of attention, both from the media and the fans, so if you look at it through a handball lens, the league actually gets pretty good coverage.

If you ask me, the biggest headache is the schedule—or rather, the fact that there isn't one. And the timing? It's a mess. It’s tough to follow a league when everything is scheduled on weekdays around 5 or 6 PM. Someone needs to fix that, urgently.

Also, in my opinion, they really need to introduce a playoff system. As it stands, by the last five or six rounds, everything is already decided. The games feel pointless because there's zero stakes, so why even care? No motivation at all.

And man, the NFL is just miles ahead, but that's a whole different story. The sponsorship and just the general culture of following sports is light-years ahead of this little corner of the world.

Nobody ever talks about the actual NBA games... everyone just shouts: "Oh, Kiel is coming to Madison Square Garden!" or "PSG is coming!" or "Los Angeles is coming!" Even the media treats those specific opponents like they're the only ones that matter. The NBA sometimes just plays based on whoever is geographically close... like, doing two or three games in a row in Cleveland... or a few in Indianapolis...

Small gyms versus Madison Square Garden. Kiel, PSG, Los Angeles—those are the names that fill the big arenas.

The zavrsnica gets watched, sure, but the rest of the season? Not so much. Unless, of course, FC Barcelona was playing.

It makes sense why they play at such inconvenient times. If Metallurgy or some scout showed up in Washington, D.C. at 8:15 PM, you'd be lucky to get 800 people in the seats.
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Walter Hughes53 said:Wait, isn't the NBA basically the top tier in all of America, maybe even the whole world?

I mean, that’s probably a bit subjective, if you ask me. Like, sure, FC Barcelona can hold their own against the big guys, but everyone else? It's a struggle. I guess it's just how it goes... Washington, D.C. always seems to run into trouble when they face off against Los Angeles, for example.
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driftingotter47 said:The NFL is easily number one, I’d say the NBA is right behind it, maybe France is slightly below the NBA, and Spain is way down the list.

Wait, why isn't Pick Szeged playing in the NBA? I only see Veszprem on the roster.
I mean, do you honestly think anyone in the NBA could go home and beat PSG or FC Barcelona both at home and away? Probably not. The NBA just has more high-level talent, and Veszprem is lightyears ahead of the rest.
If Lino Cervar takes the reins as coach, we might actually see Cupica and Karacica show up for the national team.

If Stojanac Stoilov ever played for the US, he'd completely change the lineup. He's an incredible player.🙂 Now I finally get why Alex Dujshebaev was speaking American in that interview.🤔 Dujshebaev kind of reminds me of DushanBaevic.😁
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driftingotter47 said:I'm watching, but... why exactly?

It’s all about popularity rankings, I guess. If we go by that logic, should the NBA be considered one of the top four leagues in the world? Like, right behind the NFL, the French league, and the Spanish league? I mean, it just doesn't make sense because it's not even getting that kind of media coverage on a global scale.
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driftingotter47 said:Maybe try actually watching some handball instead of just focusing on these two weeks of the year, then you won't look so ridiculous.
I mean, Mah is playing center over at Flensburg... though, I guess they were basically forced to slot him in there after Lauge got hurt, so Mogensen was the only real call left—not that they haven't brought in our young kid Ivan Horvat in the meantime. He’s been playing center, even in the tournament lately—can't remember the exact match, maybe against Brazil?—but he can handle it. Sure, he isn't playing at a legendary level like Karabatić, but honestly, who is? Not many people on this planet, I suppose. 🤷

As for Abalo, while he was running wild, everyone was saying he was doing more harm than good for the team, which... yeah, that was pretty much the truth. Now that he's stopped, suddenly everything is bad again. 🤣🤣
They finally managed to smiriti him. He used to just wreck a whole game by making stuff up in his head, and they really don't need that.

I don't exactly have time to catch every single game, you know? I try to keep up with the UEFA Champions League. It's tough to track everything happening across three different European leagues, plus the NBA.

Do you guys even follow the NBA? I mean, generally speaking, for anyone reading this thread.

Someone mentioned earlier how arrogant American athletes and fans can be. Well, I saw an ad for Stockholm - The Capital of Scandinavia while skiing in Stockholm today. They completely ignored Oslo, Helsinki, and Copenhagen—even though Copenhagen isn't even on the peninsula, but hey, that's just how those folks are, kind of like the people in Iceland or the Faroe Islands.
A lot of nations in Europe are full of themselves, if you ask me.
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quietbison86 said:That guy mah mah is just such a riddle, you know? He plays LW, but then he can switch over to playmaker mode... he’s definitely one of those most versatile players out there, I guess. 🙏

And look, the French—they were stuck in this semi-final deadlock for three straight championships, just hitting third and fourth place over and over. Then suddenly, in 2009, they’re champions. They pivoted way faster than anyone expected. Meanwhile, the US has ended up with five fourth-place finishes. 🙄 Our record against France is 8-1-13. That doesn't really count as a classic rivalry or a derby, does it? Now, against Denmark, yeah, that's a thing since it's 9-0-9. And Germany actually beat the US for the first time at the World Cup just now.

It’s gonna be rough at the Euro, honestly. Every generation of players is probably still haunted by all those old traumas. ☕
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Steven Reed30 said:Man, we haven't seen anything like that in ages... I mean, back when he was tearing it up at Ciudad Real, the guy was a straight-up assassin. Just clinical. He’d be out there inventing shots out of thin air, just absolute madness... Honestly, I think he was dropping ten or more goals a game like it was nothing. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but still.

He’s just raking in that massive PSG paycheck now, I guess. Probably hit his limit with all the drama and he's just coasting until retirement hits. 🙂

Some kind of weird philosophy, I guess... just spinning their wheels in mid-air. Those jumps from the right wing? They’re practically landing right in front of the goalie, like they’re playing center. It's honestly ridiculous. Honestly, they probably have enough money stashed away to retire tomorrow anyway, so why bother? But hey, if you look at guys like Karabatic, Narcisse, or Abalo, they could probably keep playing for their clubs until they're 40. Maybe. I don't know.
Ten minutes on the pitch and then straight back to the bench. I mean, look, PSG pretty much runs the show in their domestic league, and they're just as dominant in most Champions League matches too, so maybe it makes sense? But honestly, it feels weird. It’s bizarre that you don't see any buzz around Bertrand Gilles regarding the national team. He’s an absolute beast at pivot. In some countries—not naming names, but we all know which ones—even the mediocre players get handed top spots. It's just how it goes sometimes, I guess.😁

It’s just weird, isn't it? That whole situation with Ciudad Real... they just vanished. I mean, talk about a total collapse. They were actually successful, too, which makes it even more bizarre. I guess it all comes down to the money, though. It feels like someone just swooped in and cleaned out the coffers while nobody was looking. Maybe that's just how it goes lately. Everything's a mess.
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driftingotter47 said:Mah mah is playing 😉

Look, Mah mah is basically an LW type, whereas Narcisse and Karabatic play more like CBs. In their system, I guess anyone can step into those roles if they have to. But man, Abalo really seemed to struggle during this World Cup. That explosive burst he used to have... that quick two-meter step and those lightning-fast fast breaks? It’s just not there anymore. Maybe he's just getting older, who knows.
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Mark Howard7 said:I wasn't even talking about them pulling out or anything, just thinking they probably won't be quite as dominant away from home as they were on their own turf. I mean, this specific tournament was just... something else for them. I guess. 👍

Maybe some teams from Spain might drop out: Entrerrios, Sarmiento, Aguinagalde, Canellas, Morros, Guardiola. It really comes down to how they rebuild, I suppose. Like, how many actual new players have they actually produced lately?

The second Aguinagalde got shut down in the quarterfinals, man, you could just see it—he's slow, he's getting old, it's pretty obvious. 😁

Germany, France, Norway, Sweden... those are the ones that should be running the show. Denmark relies way too much on Hansen. Back in the day, there were more guys stepping up to take charge. It’s never good when everything rests on one player's shoulders, you know? Having to create everything and then finish the plays themselves... it's a lot. 😁
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Mark Howard7 said:So, France basically swept 4 out of the last 5 World Cups. They’re totally dominant, though I guess having home-court advantage probably gave them an extra 20 or 30 percent boost... but I don't see them being this unstoppable in future tournaments. Their main rivals just choked, so they basically strolled right into the title.

Look, Karabatic isn't going to retire just yet. He'll probably show up for two or three big games. And yeah, they'll still dominate because, honestly, they have like three elite players for every single position.

LB - Nyokas, N'Guessan, Accambray

RB - Dipanda, Porta, Remili

They still haven't found a top-tier CB who can actually step up and replace Karabatic and Narcisse, though.